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		<title>By: lohking</title>
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		<dc:creator>lohking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gundam 00 season 2 episode 18 sub is out at &lt;a href=&quot;http://bleachshippuuden.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bleach Shippuuden&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gundam 00 season 2 episode 18 sub is out at <a href="http://bleachshippuuden.com" rel="nofollow">Bleach Shippuuden</a></p>
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		<title>By: D=</title>
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		<dc:creator>D=</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a crapload of innovators and random A-laws to die still so it&#039;s highly doubtful Ali will win at the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a crapload of innovators and random A-laws to die still so it&#8217;s highly doubtful Ali will win at the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Highman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Highman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Andrei&#039;s caliousness got the best out of him, even though It&#039;s gonna take alot of issues within that he killed his own flesh and blood father and Ali may win second season as well, after no one big kills in the Gundam 00 chart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Andrei&#8217;s caliousness got the best out of him, even though It&#8217;s gonna take alot of issues within that he killed his own flesh and blood father and Ali may win second season as well, after no one big kills in the Gundam 00 chart.</p>
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		<title>By: blind_dead_mcjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>blind_dead_mcjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ crusader, you have a point, but each to their own.

they&#039;d better be numbered, for everyones sake, at the very least his pilot status should be revoked pending investigation in the next episode. 

btw, with the scoreboard is lee zejhang included in jihad-kun&#039;s kill score?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ crusader, you have a point, but each to their own.</p>
<p>they&#8217;d better be numbered, for everyones sake, at the very least his pilot status should be revoked pending investigation in the next episode. </p>
<p>btw, with the scoreboard is lee zejhang included in jihad-kun&#8217;s kill score?</p>
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		<title>By: D.J aka Sakura</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.J aka Sakura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh no, she thinks like Ranka…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She&#039;s about as useful as Ranka too and by that I mean she isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oh no, she thinks like Ranka…</p></blockquote>
<p>She&#8217;s about as useful as Ranka too and by that I mean she isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Krono</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said, I couldn&#039;t be sure without a lot more checking than I&#039;m willing to do. Either way, even if MM only misaligned vertically, if it hadn&#039;t misaligned, it probably would still have had a similar result. Destroying 40% of the low orbit station with MM would have still caused the same kinda of imbalance, with the weight of the shielding on the one side not being supported anymore. The only difference would be that the low orbit station itself would likely get purged as well as the unsupported shielding. (Incidently, that was supposed to be &quot;isn&#039;t at geosychronous orbit&quot; up in my last post.) 

As much as the personnel in the high orbit station were on the ball monitoring things, the anchored counterweights releasing was most likely still part of the autopurging. If if the autopurge failed, or they&#039;d needed to cut loose remains of the low orbit station, &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt; they&#039;d likely be the ones making the decision. Weighing potential survivors over the needs to rebalance the elevator would be a decision the engineers would be puting in human hands, not a computer&#039;s hands.

Anyways I say that they intended a direct hit that cuts the tether in part because it&#039;d almost be safer than an indirect hit that leaves the tether intact. A direct hit would chop off the bottom most segment of the elevator. Elevator gets lightened, releases some anchors to compensate, done (save for the falling debris, but that&#039;s a different problem). With an indirect hit you&#039;ve got a bunch of unsupported, unbalanced weight swinging around at the bottom of the elevator if the autopurge fails and the high orbit station can&#039;t purge it manually. 

You&#039;d also run the risk that if the low orbit station wreckage needed to be ejected to keep the center of mass at geosynchrous orbit the high orbit station commander wouldn&#039;t be willing to do so without a search for survivors. That episode back in season one showed that provisions were made for decompression and such. 

The flip side is that cutting part of the tether makes it harder to rebuild things. They might even have to entirely replace the tether cables, which would be difficult, time consuming, and expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, I couldn&#8217;t be sure without a lot more checking than I&#8217;m willing to do. Either way, even if MM only misaligned vertically, if it hadn&#8217;t misaligned, it probably would still have had a similar result. Destroying 40% of the low orbit station with MM would have still caused the same kinda of imbalance, with the weight of the shielding on the one side not being supported anymore. The only difference would be that the low orbit station itself would likely get purged as well as the unsupported shielding. (Incidently, that was supposed to be &#8220;isn&#8217;t at geosychronous orbit&#8221; up in my last post.) </p>
<p>As much as the personnel in the high orbit station were on the ball monitoring things, the anchored counterweights releasing was most likely still part of the autopurging. If if the autopurge failed, or they&#8217;d needed to cut loose remains of the low orbit station, <i>then</i> they&#8217;d likely be the ones making the decision. Weighing potential survivors over the needs to rebalance the elevator would be a decision the engineers would be puting in human hands, not a computer&#8217;s hands.</p>
<p>Anyways I say that they intended a direct hit that cuts the tether in part because it&#8217;d almost be safer than an indirect hit that leaves the tether intact. A direct hit would chop off the bottom most segment of the elevator. Elevator gets lightened, releases some anchors to compensate, done (save for the falling debris, but that&#8217;s a different problem). With an indirect hit you&#8217;ve got a bunch of unsupported, unbalanced weight swinging around at the bottom of the elevator if the autopurge fails and the high orbit station can&#8217;t purge it manually. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d also run the risk that if the low orbit station wreckage needed to be ejected to keep the center of mass at geosynchrous orbit the high orbit station commander wouldn&#8217;t be willing to do so without a search for survivors. That episode back in season one showed that provisions were made for decompression and such. </p>
<p>The flip side is that cutting part of the tether makes it harder to rebuild things. They might even have to entirely replace the tether cables, which would be difficult, time consuming, and expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@schneider
Indeed it seems Sergei went to hell...

@Jarmel 
I still think it implausible for the whole thing to have shifted from a beam saber no matter how big it was. If you are right colony dropping yourself puts us in SEED territory. It&#039;s fine if you want to kill off part of the population, but you don&#039;t colony drop yourself to do it...

@Czarina
Patrick, Prince Ali just needs a Nu-Arche.

@Kururu 
Here here!

@Epi 
It could have been better if they did not set up Divine&#039;s last sortie so poorly, as epic as it was colony dropping yourself is still epic, epically stupid.

If Marie spares Andrei she will be worse than worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@schneider<br />
Indeed it seems Sergei went to hell&#8230;</p>
<p>@Jarmel<br />
I still think it implausible for the whole thing to have shifted from a beam saber no matter how big it was. If you are right colony dropping yourself puts us in SEED territory. It&#8217;s fine if you want to kill off part of the population, but you don&#8217;t colony drop yourself to do it&#8230;</p>
<p>@Czarina<br />
Patrick, Prince Ali just needs a Nu-Arche.</p>
<p>@Kururu<br />
Here here!</p>
<p>@Epi<br />
It could have been better if they did not set up Divine&#8217;s last sortie so poorly, as epic as it was colony dropping yourself is still epic, epically stupid.</p>
<p>If Marie spares Andrei she will be worse than worthless.</p>
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		<title>By: Epi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Epi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this episode, it was quite epic and there was lots going on.

Everyone knew Sergei was going to die, so I guess this was an appropriate death. Now Marie/Soma is going to fight again, cause she has to kill Andrei.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this episode, it was quite epic and there was lots going on.</p>
<p>Everyone knew Sergei was going to die, so I guess this was an appropriate death. Now Marie/Soma is going to fight again, cause she has to kill Andrei.</p>
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		<title>By: Kururu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kururu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;FUCK YOU, ANDREI!&quot; *waves middle finger*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;FUCK YOU, ANDREI!&#8221; *waves middle finger*</p>
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		<title>By: lilu</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Second Memento Mori brought different outcome.
Lindt dead and Healing alive = first Memento Mori.
Goodman alive and Divine is dead = second Memento Mori.

SERGEI!

Oh, Andrei, you are NR. 1 target of Soma/Marie and if you are target of this supersoldier then you are Alleliujah’s target too.
No one ordered Andrei to kill his father. He has done this by his own free will.

@Czarina:
Patrick can&#039;t pilot mobile suits, because his captain doesn&#039;t allow him to pilot them. And if Patrick will get something to pilot it perhaps will be just his old Enact without any new toys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Second Memento Mori brought different outcome.<br />
Lindt dead and Healing alive = first Memento Mori.<br />
Goodman alive and Divine is dead = second Memento Mori.</p>
<p>SERGEI!</p>
<p>Oh, Andrei, you are NR. 1 target of Soma/Marie and if you are target of this supersoldier then you are Alleliujah’s target too.<br />
No one ordered Andrei to kill his father. He has done this by his own free will.</p>
<p>@Czarina:<br />
Patrick can&#8217;t pilot mobile suits, because his captain doesn&#8217;t allow him to pilot them. And if Patrick will get something to pilot it perhaps will be just his old Enact without any new toys.</p>
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		<title>By: Czarina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Czarina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Crusader, if they actually do an Enact version of the Masauro, should they give it to Prince Ali or pass it to Patrick??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Crusader, if they actually do an Enact version of the Masauro, should they give it to Prince Ali or pass it to Patrick??</p>
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		<title>By: Jarmel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Crusader we don&#039;t actually know the physics of the Orbital Ring system, MM and the Orbital Tower have to be in seperate areas and I&#039;m assuming if their engineers aren&#039;t total retards then they made it so if one part collapsed then the whole thing wouldn&#039;t fall apart.  He wouldn&#039;t have had to push the whole system, just change it a few degrees to the right or w/e and also if he did seperate the whole thing, chances are something would get moved more likely horizontally really rather than vertically.  However once again they didn&#039;t really make that clear and it wasn&#039;t a particularly good shot.  It seems interesting now that I&#039;m sure a good deal of the civilian population is going to be pissed, I&#039;d know I&#039;d be pissed if I didn&#039;t have power for three months. 

If Ribbons faced a full rebellion by A-Laws and his own Innovators I have no doubt he would do a colony drop to shut people up.  Personally if I was trying to take over the world, killing 90-95 percent is a good way to start.  Trying to control roughly 7-8 billion people would be way too hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Crusader we don&#8217;t actually know the physics of the Orbital Ring system, MM and the Orbital Tower have to be in seperate areas and I&#8217;m assuming if their engineers aren&#8217;t total retards then they made it so if one part collapsed then the whole thing wouldn&#8217;t fall apart.  He wouldn&#8217;t have had to push the whole system, just change it a few degrees to the right or w/e and also if he did seperate the whole thing, chances are something would get moved more likely horizontally really rather than vertically.  However once again they didn&#8217;t really make that clear and it wasn&#8217;t a particularly good shot.  It seems interesting now that I&#8217;m sure a good deal of the civilian population is going to be pissed, I&#8217;d know I&#8217;d be pissed if I didn&#8217;t have power for three months. </p>
<p>If Ribbons faced a full rebellion by A-Laws and his own Innovators I have no doubt he would do a colony drop to shut people up.  Personally if I was trying to take over the world, killing 90-95 percent is a good way to start.  Trying to control roughly 7-8 billion people would be way too hard.</p>
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		<title>By: schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 11:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rule 63 Corner... I can&#039;t unsee it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rule 63 Corner&#8230; I can&#8217;t unsee it.</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jarmel
There was a rather loud drop in the vertical after Jihad-kun hit it, if his huge word did cause a lateral shift then he would have pushed the entire Orbital Ring system to do it. It&#039;s a bit too big of a stretch and also coupled with the fact that if the Africa Tower collapsed as you say Homer would have been trying to colony drop himself...which is pretty dumb though worth of SEED. Louise at least has more well developed reasons for revenge, Bob is fighting for love of Gundam 00 Raiser and nothing else.

If Ribbons hit the reset button now, then I have to say we gave him more credit than he was due.

@mel 
It was sad, but I still think Andrei is a creepy guy who Googled Louise...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jarmel<br />
There was a rather loud drop in the vertical after Jihad-kun hit it, if his huge word did cause a lateral shift then he would have pushed the entire Orbital Ring system to do it. It&#8217;s a bit too big of a stretch and also coupled with the fact that if the Africa Tower collapsed as you say Homer would have been trying to colony drop himself&#8230;which is pretty dumb though worth of SEED. Louise at least has more well developed reasons for revenge, Bob is fighting for love of Gundam 00 Raiser and nothing else.</p>
<p>If Ribbons hit the reset button now, then I have to say we gave him more credit than he was due.</p>
<p>@mel<br />
It was sad, but I still think Andrei is a creepy guy who Googled Louise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew Andrei would bring me delicious family drama. Thank you, Andrei. But lack of communication in a family is truly a sad thing.

Andrei also knows that when &quot;you have to shoot, shoot! Don&#039;t talk!&quot;. I hope Louise will act the same against Saji... oh, who am I kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Andrei would bring me delicious family drama. Thank you, Andrei. But lack of communication in a family is truly a sad thing.</p>
<p>Andrei also knows that when &#8220;you have to shoot, shoot! Don&#8217;t talk!&#8221;. I hope Louise will act the same against Saji&#8230; oh, who am I kidding.</p>
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