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	<title>Comments on: Toradora, Episodes 15&amp;16- We&#8217;ve Gone From Suck to Blow!</title>
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		<title>By: Taiga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sick and tired of everyone comparing Taiga to Louise. The only thing they have in common is they&#039;re voiced by the same person. Taiga is nowhere near as violent. Taiga is a sweet kind girl who was mistreated as a kid and developed a tough exterior. She&#039;s insecure deep down. From the beginning it seems that her only friend was Minori. She was abandoned as a child. She doesn&#039;t know how to act with people. She barely can read or understand her OWN emotions. When she acts there are hundreds of thoughts going through her mind. I despise how people just write her off as &quot;just another tsundere&quot; when she&#039;s so much more than that.

Aside from that, I liked episode 16. It showed how much Taiga really cares about the friends she&#039;s made. How she would do anything for them. The stupid idea that &quot;men can&#039;t cry&quot; is just a social norm. It&#039;s like telling a woman she&#039;s meant to stay in the damn kitchen. If a guy feels the need to cry he should just cry, not try to act gar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sick and tired of everyone comparing Taiga to Louise. The only thing they have in common is they&#8217;re voiced by the same person. Taiga is nowhere near as violent. Taiga is a sweet kind girl who was mistreated as a kid and developed a tough exterior. She&#8217;s insecure deep down. From the beginning it seems that her only friend was Minori. She was abandoned as a child. She doesn&#8217;t know how to act with people. She barely can read or understand her OWN emotions. When she acts there are hundreds of thoughts going through her mind. I despise how people just write her off as &#8220;just another tsundere&#8221; when she&#8217;s so much more than that.</p>
<p>Aside from that, I liked episode 16. It showed how much Taiga really cares about the friends she&#8217;s made. How she would do anything for them. The stupid idea that &#8220;men can&#8217;t cry&#8221; is just a social norm. It&#8217;s like telling a woman she&#8217;s meant to stay in the damn kitchen. If a guy feels the need to cry he should just cry, not try to act gar.</p>
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		<title>By: Calawain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calawain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;“Sometimes it’s really obvious that a woman wrote the source material.”
I don’t know if you realize how sexist and offensive that comment was.&lt;/em&gt;

Oh get over yourself.  If I was commenting on &lt;em&gt;Negima&lt;/em&gt; and said &quot;With all of those huge boobs on middle schoolers flying around, it&#039;s really obvious that a man wrote this,&quot; you wouldn&#039;t bat an eye.  I&#039;m big on equality here, but don&#039;t bring me double standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“Sometimes it’s really obvious that a woman wrote the source material.”<br />
I don’t know if you realize how sexist and offensive that comment was.</em></p>
<p>Oh get over yourself.  If I was commenting on <em>Negima</em> and said &#8220;With all of those huge boobs on middle schoolers flying around, it&#8217;s really obvious that a man wrote this,&#8221; you wouldn&#8217;t bat an eye.  I&#8217;m big on equality here, but don&#8217;t bring me double standards.</p>
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		<title>By: slly</title>
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		<dc:creator>slly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re certainly entitled to your own opinion (this is your blog, after all) and I do agree that all the angst and melodrama got tiring, especially after finding the ultimate cause.
 
However:
&quot;Sometimes it’s really obvious that a woman wrote the source material.&quot;
I don&#039;t know if you realize how sexist and offensive that comment was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re certainly entitled to your own opinion (this is your blog, after all) and I do agree that all the angst and melodrama got tiring, especially after finding the ultimate cause.</p>
<p>However:<br />
&#8220;Sometimes it’s really obvious that a woman wrote the source material.&#8221;<br />
I don&#8217;t know if you realize how sexist and offensive that comment was.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorako-chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorako-chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So have you guys dropped Toradora? Just wondering. I need someone to work out what the fuck is up with Minorin already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So have you guys dropped Toradora? Just wondering. I need someone to work out what the fuck is up with Minorin already.</p>
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		<title>By: ETERNAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ETERNAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stereotypical manliness FTL, I don&#039;t see anyone bashing Taiga for her unfeminine antics.</description>
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		<title>By: Vin-nii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vin-nii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ D=

better OP? nah... then again I&#039;ve only watched the 1st season so I can&#039;t really say.

Best slice: honey and clover
Best Fantasy school: have to agree with you on that ;)

and ZnT&#039;s Plot? Too idealistic in my opinion. Not to mention the first season was so anti-climatic at the end I broke down laughing (exaggerated but true)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ D=</p>
<p>better OP? nah&#8230; then again I&#8217;ve only watched the 1st season so I can&#8217;t really say.</p>
<p>Best slice: honey and clover<br />
Best Fantasy school: have to agree with you on that <img src='http://that.animeblogger.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>and ZnT&#8217;s Plot? Too idealistic in my opinion. Not to mention the first season was so anti-climatic at the end I broke down laughing (exaggerated but true)</p>
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		<title>By: Anacone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anacone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spaceballs was first movie I saw in movie theater :)</description>
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		<title>By: catface210</title>
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		<dc:creator>catface210</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, oh the drama in this blog.

Hm, well, I liked it, but that&#039;s just me. I like a LOT of things. I like a lot of shoujo too, so it&#039;s to be expected. When I&#039;m bored, read dramatic slice of life romance manga. So this is my cup of tea.
But I gotta admit, Kitamura is ...odd....(I can&#039;t quite understand him or Minorin. =/)I didn&#039;t like his arc as much, but seeing how it affected the rest of the characters, I got into it. If Ami, Taiga, or Ryuuji are pulled in in anyway (which they will be, Ryuuji and Taiga are the main characters and Ami&#039;s always there, knowing what&#039;s happening), I pretty much get into it. Besides, I always have that &#039;protective mode&#039; thing on. A character gets hurt by love, &#039;protect mode&#039;. Then I get all sympathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, oh the drama in this blog.</p>
<p>Hm, well, I liked it, but that&#8217;s just me. I like a LOT of things. I like a lot of shoujo too, so it&#8217;s to be expected. When I&#8217;m bored, read dramatic slice of life romance manga. So this is my cup of tea.<br />
But I gotta admit, Kitamura is &#8230;odd&#8230;.(I can&#8217;t quite understand him or Minorin. =/)I didn&#8217;t like his arc as much, but seeing how it affected the rest of the characters, I got into it. If Ami, Taiga, or Ryuuji are pulled in in anyway (which they will be, Ryuuji and Taiga are the main characters and Ami&#8217;s always there, knowing what&#8217;s happening), I pretty much get into it. Besides, I always have that &#8216;protective mode&#8217; thing on. A character gets hurt by love, &#8216;protect mode&#8217;. Then I get all sympathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: D=</title>
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		<dc:creator>D=</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^Wait I totally made myself look like an idiot. I take that back. Here let&#039;s use an easier argument. ZnT had better opening music. Yeah. That&#039;s the reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^Wait I totally made myself look like an idiot. I take that back. Here let&#8217;s use an easier argument. ZnT had better opening music. Yeah. That&#8217;s the reason.</p>
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		<title>By: D=</title>
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		<dc:creator>D=</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^You are basing that on a preference. I am basing it purely on things like character art design, voice actor, etc etc that is more &quot;general&quot; if I may be so bold to claim.

Saito is immature, doesn&#039;t think, and has a silly relationship with Louise. But he does the job well. I can&#039;t currently think of any series within the close timeframe of ZNT with a similar &quot;fun&quot; feel to him that beats Saito in a silly genre.

Yeah I guess it is preference. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I don&#039;t like the tsundere that much. I think Louise does it better than Taiga purely because one is a fantasy comedy romance while the other is a slice of life comedy romance. I still think it sucks overall. Just that ZnT has a PLOT. You know, something to LOOK FORWARD TO. Tora Dora is like, OKAY...FANTASTIC....WHAT ABOUT PENI-err wait I mean...

UxU is the greatest slice of life. Mx0 was the greatest fantasy school life crap. That&#039;s my scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^You are basing that on a preference. I am basing it purely on things like character art design, voice actor, etc etc that is more &#8220;general&#8221; if I may be so bold to claim.</p>
<p>Saito is immature, doesn&#8217;t think, and has a silly relationship with Louise. But he does the job well. I can&#8217;t currently think of any series within the close timeframe of ZNT with a similar &#8220;fun&#8221; feel to him that beats Saito in a silly genre.</p>
<p>Yeah I guess it is preference. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I don&#8217;t like the tsundere that much. I think Louise does it better than Taiga purely because one is a fantasy comedy romance while the other is a slice of life comedy romance. I still think it sucks overall. Just that ZnT has a PLOT. You know, something to LOOK FORWARD TO. Tora Dora is like, OKAY&#8230;FANTASTIC&#8230;.WHAT ABOUT PENI-err wait I mean&#8230;</p>
<p>UxU is the greatest slice of life. Mx0 was the greatest fantasy school life crap. That&#8217;s my scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Vin-nii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vin-nii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saito v. Ryuuji... I&#039;d say Ryuuji

Saito is fairly immature, not much thinking in his head... and his relationship with Louise is mundane.

Ryuuji is one of these ordinary high school students that are clueless about the future but are honestly living his life. Not to mention his relation with Taiga (accomplice?) is much more interesting than the love-hate situation in ZnT.

Then again, I like slice of life a lot more compare to tsundere based anime. Everyone has their opinion ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saito v. Ryuuji&#8230; I&#8217;d say Ryuuji</p>
<p>Saito is fairly immature, not much thinking in his head&#8230; and his relationship with Louise is mundane.</p>
<p>Ryuuji is one of these ordinary high school students that are clueless about the future but are honestly living his life. Not to mention his relation with Taiga (accomplice?) is much more interesting than the love-hate situation in ZnT.</p>
<p>Then again, I like slice of life a lot more compare to tsundere based anime. Everyone has their opinion <img src='http://that.animeblogger.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: D=</title>
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		<dc:creator>D=</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@calawain:

It has nothing to do with ending prematurely. It has to do with the fact that they fail to highlight any small techniques or fancy moves either side pulls off. They just both go super saiyan and get a hard on. I would go further, but this should be saved for Crusader&#039;s article. Actually no, there WERE NO TECHNIQUES, it was as bad as claymore once Claire got her SPEED ARM (AKA WE CAN SLACK OFF ON ANIMATION ARM)

And yeah, Mariya&#039;s hair is the best part about him. When it&#039;s serious, it looks better than all other hairstyles in the show, but it can be converted to twitch when in SD mode.

@Vin-nii:

I can&#039;t agree with you completely on ZnT. ZnT felt more immersed the first season, and perhaps the second. The third was terrible, but I really enjoyed the first for what it was. Tora Dora however flat out disappointed me whenever Taiga comes along with her embarassing points, and Ryuuji is nowhere near as entertaining as Saito. Of course, this may be just an overload of Rie because I watched ZnT first (DUR) but I still think Saito is a better male lead than Ryuuji.

Ryuuji&#039;s character is like Ami&#039;s, only taken away all the awesomeness. You aren&#039;t a girl, you don&#039;t have a mean streak, you don&#039;t tease, you always help people, and you go along with Taiga&#039;s really dumb ideas without even a pause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@calawain:</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with ending prematurely. It has to do with the fact that they fail to highlight any small techniques or fancy moves either side pulls off. They just both go super saiyan and get a hard on. I would go further, but this should be saved for Crusader&#8217;s article. Actually no, there WERE NO TECHNIQUES, it was as bad as claymore once Claire got her SPEED ARM (AKA WE CAN SLACK OFF ON ANIMATION ARM)</p>
<p>And yeah, Mariya&#8217;s hair is the best part about him. When it&#8217;s serious, it looks better than all other hairstyles in the show, but it can be converted to twitch when in SD mode.</p>
<p>@Vin-nii:</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t agree with you completely on ZnT. ZnT felt more immersed the first season, and perhaps the second. The third was terrible, but I really enjoyed the first for what it was. Tora Dora however flat out disappointed me whenever Taiga comes along with her embarassing points, and Ryuuji is nowhere near as entertaining as Saito. Of course, this may be just an overload of Rie because I watched ZnT first (DUR) but I still think Saito is a better male lead than Ryuuji.</p>
<p>Ryuuji&#8217;s character is like Ami&#8217;s, only taken away all the awesomeness. You aren&#8217;t a girl, you don&#8217;t have a mean streak, you don&#8217;t tease, you always help people, and you go along with Taiga&#8217;s really dumb ideas without even a pause.</p>
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		<title>By: Calawain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calawain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Miraploy

&lt;em&gt;&quot;excellent drama and character development&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

OH YOU

@Haesslich

Why would you have to read the source material to tag how you view a series so far.  The first several episodes had a lot of comedy so people start to tag it comedy.  Makes a lot of sense to me.

@Amyable

Considering what &lt;em&gt;Maria+Holic&lt;/em&gt; is doing to me that really doesn&#039;t bother me.  Are you a twintailed blonde by any chance?

@Veggies

I&#039;ve read the English-translated portions of the novel, which end at this episode&#039;s content.  I don&#039;t know how the rest goes.

@Marmoset

Oh, rare intelligent discussion in these comments, kudos~

@Nemo

Haha, yeah &quot;stop running away!&quot; is such a huge anime cliche.  

@D=

Mmmm, it certainly is possible, because Jihad v. Bob also ended quite abruptly with no real substance.

@Random Passing Dude

Because it&#039;s a team blog you are free to not read my entries and instead read others.  Or maybe start your own blog?  I would suggest learning how to capitalize and use periods before doing that, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Miraploy</p>
<p><em>&#8220;excellent drama and character development</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>OH YOU</p>
<p>@Haesslich</p>
<p>Why would you have to read the source material to tag how you view a series so far.  The first several episodes had a lot of comedy so people start to tag it comedy.  Makes a lot of sense to me.</p>
<p>@Amyable</p>
<p>Considering what <em>Maria+Holic</em> is doing to me that really doesn&#8217;t bother me.  Are you a twintailed blonde by any chance?</p>
<p>@Veggies</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read the English-translated portions of the novel, which end at this episode&#8217;s content.  I don&#8217;t know how the rest goes.</p>
<p>@Marmoset</p>
<p>Oh, rare intelligent discussion in these comments, kudos~</p>
<p>@Nemo</p>
<p>Haha, yeah &#8220;stop running away!&#8221; is such a huge anime cliche.  </p>
<p>@D=</p>
<p>Mmmm, it certainly is possible, because Jihad v. Bob also ended quite abruptly with no real substance.</p>
<p>@Random Passing Dude</p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s a team blog you are free to not read my entries and instead read others.  Or maybe start your own blog?  I would suggest learning how to capitalize and use periods before doing that, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Tenryu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tenryu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought episode 16 was the best episode by far

i mean this is a &#039;romance&#039; show having comedy as a by product not the other way round</description>
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<p>i mean this is a &#8216;romance&#8217; show having comedy as a by product not the other way round</p>
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		<title>By: random passing  dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>random passing  dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice team blog oh wait it&#039;s just one angry fool spitting out a couple of sentences and pictures. 
If this were a team blog it would also have included the good parts. 
The part with the wallet and ami/minorin didn&#039;t even get highlighted. Shame on you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice team blog oh wait it&#8217;s just one angry fool spitting out a couple of sentences and pictures.<br />
If this were a team blog it would also have included the good parts.<br />
The part with the wallet and ami/minorin didn&#8217;t even get highlighted. Shame on you</p>
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