it has nothing to do with the characters being cool, it’s more to do fixing a plot hole, why go to the effort of recruiting someone into CB on such short notice as well as retrieve a person who has proven themselves to be an inefficient and unsuitable commander, when they could’ve drawn from Fereshte’s resources instead, considering they’d be made reduntant now that they no longer have the 0 gundams GN drive to use, and the increase in manpower would be to their advantage.

thats hardly ‘fixing a crack in a dam with a band-aid’i'm well aware that it won’t fix everything wrong in the show, but it will make things more bearable i wouldn’t go so far as to call 00 mediocre, that i reserve for the 2nd season of geass (and considering how it’s going at the moment linebarrels of iron as well), i’m going to reserve judgemnet till the 00 series is over, if it proves to be as bad as GSD, then sunrise needs to lift their game somewhat.

and if animesukies wanna attack me they can go right ahead, but they’d be wasting their time.

I mean, you are suggesting to fix a crack in a dam with a band-aid. It just doesn’t work. And if you bitch about the show entirely, you get attacked by Animesukies who are always 10 years behind on the bandwagon. Only now have they started bitching about action when it was apparent even in S1.

00 is mediocre =] and doesn’t have the flair like Geass to make up for it. Only way you can feel better watching it is if you put Prince Ali and Bushido Bob as the main protagonists in your own mind, like pretty much what Crusader is doing now. At least those two beat out Geass and other mecha series in any pilot/badass comparison. Well, no Spinzaku is too strong in personal combat.

Yamila > I bet he’s just shy and he doesn’t know how to handle fangirls. Awww… so adorable. I wish there was a Crusader plushie! He would have a helmet on and a little gun at the side. And he would be soft and squishy with big chibi eyes. Maybe with a small grenade too?

@escaru
Then let’s hope Anew stays in her present state.

Enjoy the gif.

Patrick is Immortal and so is Katie trhough diffusion.

@Flairgin
Look I don’t believe that war is any better than barbarism and once the option is taken the only thing nations really look for is victory. You can trot out your Iraq example all you like, but even when the US went in conventionally was the outcome any more rosier? War has always been nasty business and I don’t think there is much merit in trying to make believe that you can have a nice clean war. I think it hardly makes a difference to the dead whether they were incinerated or lined up and shot.

I think Clausewitz still applies and is not outmoded by modern advances because at the end of the day war is still about destroying the other side. Is not war still an act of violence to compel your enemy to conform to your will? Just because the Vietnam War was a limited one for the US doesn’t mean that it wasn’t a Total War for the North Vietnamese. War is about winning is it not? Otherwise why even go to war if you intend to lose? Even in the nether regions of the world there are still total wars fought with little mercy, it is only in the West is there any serious notion that war can be fought in a clean manner. More over neo-cons are more like you in that you can imagine that war might some how be anything less than barbarity. Not even neo-cons have the will to unleash a WMD in an opening strike, no this was something not hindered by anything less than pure unadulterated practicality.

I am not saying whether it’s right or not, but frankly it was the smart strategic move to make. Oh sure it may be deplorable, but who now says much of anything about the destruction of Thebes or the destruction of the Khwarezmian Empire with tears in their eyes?

The Federation has been at war with Kataron for 3 years, it’s a shooting war with people dying and in my book that’s pretty much war. Kataron’s stated goal is the destruction of the Federation. Thus I think the Federation has been in a state of war as Kataron has not surrendered nor have they stopped agitating for the destruction of the Federation. From a strategic point of view the Federation is at war on two fronts, against Kataron, and against Celestial Being, the last thing they need is an other war with an entire region. I did not hear anything about justice from Goodman when he commenced primary ignition, with the A-Laws there is no pretension that they are fighting for anything but their stated national goals, its not right, but it is honest.

As I have said before, the implication is that this was the latest in a series of Seel and the Feddies rattling their sabers, even Sergei felt that war was imminent. Kataron was in the minority when they were in the Federation, they opted for war and were kicked out now that they are out they draw support from outsiders to continue their goal of destroying the Federation, how right is it of the minority to try an force the majority to accept their will? They were already on the outside and yet from the outside they make assaults on the Federation and plant sleeper cells in Feddie territory, you think the US is the only place that would take steps to defeat terrorists from abroad, we have only recently actually been doing it directly, in the past it would have been a CIA operation and we’d be like the rest of the world and pay someone else to fight a small little war for our interests. Heck in Africa they do it all the time in supporting rebels in neighboring countries…

Do Lindt or Goodman pretend that they actually care about a guilty conscience? I don’t think they do and that is the difference. Seel is not a friend and in war they treated them like enemies and did not pretend to be going into Seel in a war of liberation. Seel had Kataron over for tea, negotiations between the Feddies and Seel had already failed, war seemed inevitable from even Kataron’s point of view, so would it have been more moral for the Feddies to let Seel strike first?

It isn’t right of course, war is never about who’s right. Still this being a work of fiction I can at least appreciate the cold-hearted decision to make the first strike. Again that is very different from CB who couldn’t get anything done at all. Lindt is nothing like Sumeragi, Bob is nothing like Jihad-kun, and the A-Laws are not moralizing their position or what they do. They just do what they do best kill Kataron and all who help them. As hilarious as you find my opinion, I find it doubly hilarious that you even think Lindt has a conscience.

So instead of moaning about a doctrine that will soon the throttled and dead by January of next year, perhaps you can sit back and enjoy the fact that the Feddies and A-Laws are not feeding you some sort of BS about ending war or shouldering guilt, because they aren’t.

@Ominae
I am sure they will make up some how…

And don’t wield Clausewitz into a discussion of modern-day war. The man’s intent in his philosophy was to outline the state of war after Napoleon, but the world wars changed the political and military landscape, and Clausewitz, while realistic, is largely no longer applicable to present situations.

Not to mention, the Federation is NOT in a state of war. The firing of Memento Mori is an act of war, not so much a preventative measure you fervently insist it is. Or, it can be classified as righteous–under the Bush Doctrine.

The most hilarious aspect of your opinion is how the A-LAWS are effectively the Celestial Being of season one here, and you adamantly bashed CB last season. Is it because the A-LAWS have the sanction of government, and that automatically makes them good men and good soldiers? The oppression of the minority for the sake of the majority is not evil and not hypocritical at all. The leaders of the A-LAWS are clearly noble men for making the decision to fire without negotiation first. They want to end conflict swiftly, and therefore take it upon their own consciences to shoulder the burdens of the deaths.

Huh. Sure sounds like Celestial Being from the first season.

OMG. I thought I was the only one too. XD Let’s KYA! over him together. I wonder if he’ll spit out whatever he’s drinking when he reads our post =D

Also, I love that .gif of Patrick. How did he get right behind Kati so quickly? Power of love, maybe? I really hope those two make it out alive.

I think Crusader is hot. *blush*

and I thought I was the only one XD \o/

thats precisely WHY i suggested fon spaak, cos he’s a success story from the Prince ali 3-step program to manliness, he doesn’t even try shovelling (or believeing in) the pretentious self righteous idealist bullshit CB feeds everyone cos he was press ganged into the group, and when he isn’t piloting he is kept in handcuffs and kept in line via a friendship band of explodium wrapped around his neck.

not to mention he’s a damn sight more intelligent and competent than the current crop of meisters, even if he might be violent and possibly batshit insane.

not to mention if it weren’t for him CB wouldn’t even HAVE their GN drives anymore, and patrick would’ve possibly died of suffocation/starvation if he didn’t kick him down from orbit (though i doubt that was the intention on fons part but still)