<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Since Time Immemorial &#8211; thoughts on the blogging tradition? part 2</title>
	<atom:link href="http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/</link>
	<description>THAT blog of various wonders!</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:30:39 +0800</lastBuildDate>
	
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: On Blogging Part 4: nexistence and z-axis orientation &#124; Super Fanicom</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-290136</link>
		<dc:creator>On Blogging Part 4: nexistence and z-axis orientation &#124; Super Fanicom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://that.animeblogger.net/?p=14175#comment-290136</guid>
		<description>[...] (part 1, 2, 3) (collective train of thought: RyanA 1, 2 - Intro 1, 2) RyanA: What would be really awesome, you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (part 1, 2, 3) (collective train of thought: RyanA 1, 2 &#8211; Intro 1, 2) RyanA: What would be really awesome, you [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Key Mechanisms? &#171; Calamitous Intent</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-289508</link>
		<dc:creator>Key Mechanisms? &#171; Calamitous Intent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://that.animeblogger.net/?p=14175#comment-289508</guid>
		<description>[...] ←[83] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ←[83] [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: How otacore are you? A reflection on fan behavior &#171; We Remember Love</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-289432</link>
		<dc:creator>How otacore are you? A reflection on fan behavior &#171; We Remember Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 00:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://that.animeblogger.net/?p=14175#comment-289432</guid>
		<description>[...] have been a number of good posts on anime blogging (omisyth&#8217;s, lelangir&#8217;s part 1 and part 2), which I personally consider to be advanced fan/otaku behavior. It takes, I believe a deep [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have been a number of good posts on anime blogging (omisyth&#8217;s, lelangir&#8217;s part 1 and part 2), which I personally consider to be advanced fan/otaku behavior. It takes, I believe a deep [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Crusader</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-289292</link>
		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://that.animeblogger.net/?p=14175#comment-289292</guid>
		<description>There is a &quot;we&quot; in weapon, problem fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a &#8220;we&#8221; in weapon, problem fixed.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kaioshin Sama</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-289287</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaioshin Sama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://that.animeblogger.net/?p=14175#comment-289287</guid>
		<description>*Smacks head on desk repeatedly*  You know, it&#039;s true that there is no &quot;i&quot; in team, but I can assure everyone there is an &quot;i&quot; in Ka(i)oshin.  Can I have it back now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Smacks head on desk repeatedly*  You know, it&#8217;s true that there is no &#8220;i&#8221; in team, but I can assure everyone there is an &#8220;i&#8221; in Ka(i)oshin.  Can I have it back now?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lelangir</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-289142</link>
		<dc:creator>lelangir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://that.animeblogger.net/?p=14175#comment-289142</guid>
		<description>Impz: Haha it&#039;s not a problem, I was just surprised since this was the first time it happened.

Ryan: I remember Itsubun saying that the point of the AGRR was to get a buncha girls together to talk about girl stuff without feeling pressured or marginalized in the shadow of the male dominated aniblogosphere. On that note it&#039;s slightly hilarious that I&#039;m in Calamitous Intents.

Crusader/Ghost/&lt;a href=&quot;http://calamitousintents.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition/#comment-1956&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;N&lt;/a&gt;/&lt;a href=&quot;http://calamitousintents.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition/#comment-1951&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sakura&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;m doing re-comments in a post shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impz: Haha it&#8217;s not a problem, I was just surprised since this was the first time it happened.</p>
<p>Ryan: I remember Itsubun saying that the point of the AGRR was to get a buncha girls together to talk about girl stuff without feeling pressured or marginalized in the shadow of the male dominated aniblogosphere. On that note it&#8217;s slightly hilarious that I&#8217;m in Calamitous Intents.</p>
<p>Crusader/Ghost/<a href="http://calamitousintents.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition/#comment-1956" rel="nofollow">N</a>/<a href="http://calamitousintents.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition/#comment-1951" rel="nofollow">Sakura</a>: I&#8217;m doing re-comments in a post shortly.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ghostlightning</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-288989</link>
		<dc:creator>ghostlightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://that.animeblogger.net/?p=14175#comment-288989</guid>
		<description>@ lelangir

I left the academe before &#039;postmodern&#039; became somewhat of a problematic idea, and so I&#039;m still living in some freak time-bubble where/when it still promises freedom. Through methods perceived to be within it&#039;s fold like deconstruction, I still believe I can build affirmation on argument and vice-versa. I may not be able to articulate it the same way right now, but I agree and aspire to the same things you&#039;ve just said (at least pertaining to what you quoted from me.

Even as niches become more distinguished from each other, and deeper into their distinctions, I do feel that some voices can thread all of these points along the long tail of anime blogs. Not so much as an authority or and organizing force, but an affirming one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ lelangir</p>
<p>I left the academe before &#8216;postmodern&#8217; became somewhat of a problematic idea, and so I&#8217;m still living in some freak time-bubble where/when it still promises freedom. Through methods perceived to be within it&#8217;s fold like deconstruction, I still believe I can build affirmation on argument and vice-versa. I may not be able to articulate it the same way right now, but I agree and aspire to the same things you&#8217;ve just said (at least pertaining to what you quoted from me.</p>
<p>Even as niches become more distinguished from each other, and deeper into their distinctions, I do feel that some voices can thread all of these points along the long tail of anime blogs. Not so much as an authority or and organizing force, but an affirming one.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryan A</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-288909</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://that.animeblogger.net/?p=14175#comment-288909</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pre-finishing, I read the comments:&lt;/strong&gt;

I agree with Crusader on the note of similar content, but a diversity in subject matter. That sort of diversity is solid as well, because it&#039;s spreading a given form across various genre, if we can use that word anymore.

Impz, nice, you should step into a newspaper office and see the craziness of their &quot;team blogs&quot; [or massive army of journalists directed by editors directed by upper-management]. Team blogs are nice for providing man-power and distributing load, but topically it still needs direction from some driver (editor).

&lt;strong&gt;Post-finish:&lt;/strong&gt;

Generally, blog articles can become forum threads, but its not an absolute relation. In this respect, articles/entries are thread starters, and discussers really have no say in what starts a discussion; it is left in the directing hands of the blogger.

Personally, I enjoy the conciseness of blogs over forums, since forums tend to be hectic, time-consuming, and often too expansive to get good info from.

So...

&lt;em&gt;what is the thing we really get from anime blogs?&lt;/em&gt;

Really, beyond everything, I think it is the connection to who it is exactly writing these things. It&#039;s human nature to &quot;see&quot; personality, and I think that tends to shine over all other aspects. People can read and feel the author&#039;s emotion, it&#039;s just that way. You know, perhaps its attraction; where we find writers we like and &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; to know their opinion.

&lt;em&gt;These meta posts are a good example&lt;/em&gt;

In some way, I&#039;ve felt that meta-posts were usually blogger-targetted, and not necessarily reader-targetted. It makes me wonder what readers take from them, other than our own views on ourselves/community. This doesn&#039;t exclude the fact that readers can help extremely in a community when not on the producer side.

&lt;em&gt;I could see some collective debate, like, OH vs. THAT or RandomC vs. Drastic. Actually, that would be really interesting to witness, if not partake in. But even then, it’s hard to homogenize even the small team blog.&lt;/em&gt;

The issue is we don&#039;t necessarily have the infrastructure to handle and bring such thing to a concise &quot;location&quot;. Trackbacks are great, but its hard to demand readers read another post ontop of a pending one, unless of course you are dealing with those more involved, in the case of meta, its bloggers.

I think there is something to the aggregator services, not in the &quot;automatic and expansive&quot; sense, but in the fact that there is some entity collecting and re-listing blogger entries. Depending on the entity, this could be something for the future.

&lt;em&gt;an effort towards greater female anime/blogger/fujoshi/whatever solidarity&lt;/em&gt;

wut</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Pre-finishing, I read the comments:</strong></p>
<p>I agree with Crusader on the note of similar content, but a diversity in subject matter. That sort of diversity is solid as well, because it&#8217;s spreading a given form across various genre, if we can use that word anymore.</p>
<p>Impz, nice, you should step into a newspaper office and see the craziness of their &#8220;team blogs&#8221; [or massive army of journalists directed by editors directed by upper-management]. Team blogs are nice for providing man-power and distributing load, but topically it still needs direction from some driver (editor).</p>
<p><strong>Post-finish:</strong></p>
<p>Generally, blog articles can become forum threads, but its not an absolute relation. In this respect, articles/entries are thread starters, and discussers really have no say in what starts a discussion; it is left in the directing hands of the blogger.</p>
<p>Personally, I enjoy the conciseness of blogs over forums, since forums tend to be hectic, time-consuming, and often too expansive to get good info from.</p>
<p>So&#8230;</p>
<p><em>what is the thing we really get from anime blogs?</em></p>
<p>Really, beyond everything, I think it is the connection to who it is exactly writing these things. It&#8217;s human nature to &#8220;see&#8221; personality, and I think that tends to shine over all other aspects. People can read and feel the author&#8217;s emotion, it&#8217;s just that way. You know, perhaps its attraction; where we find writers we like and <em>want</em> to know their opinion.</p>
<p><em>These meta posts are a good example</em></p>
<p>In some way, I&#8217;ve felt that meta-posts were usually blogger-targetted, and not necessarily reader-targetted. It makes me wonder what readers take from them, other than our own views on ourselves/community. This doesn&#8217;t exclude the fact that readers can help extremely in a community when not on the producer side.</p>
<p><em>I could see some collective debate, like, OH vs. THAT or RandomC vs. Drastic. Actually, that would be really interesting to witness, if not partake in. But even then, it’s hard to homogenize even the small team blog.</em></p>
<p>The issue is we don&#8217;t necessarily have the infrastructure to handle and bring such thing to a concise &#8220;location&#8221;. Trackbacks are great, but its hard to demand readers read another post ontop of a pending one, unless of course you are dealing with those more involved, in the case of meta, its bloggers.</p>
<p>I think there is something to the aggregator services, not in the &#8220;automatic and expansive&#8221; sense, but in the fact that there is some entity collecting and re-listing blogger entries. Depending on the entity, this could be something for the future.</p>
<p><em>an effort towards greater female anime/blogger/fujoshi/whatever solidarity</em></p>
<p>wut</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Impz</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-288864</link>
		<dc:creator>Impz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://that.animeblogger.net/?p=14175#comment-288864</guid>
		<description>Yes, blame me for shifting stuff. @_@ I have mentioned before that editorials are less time-sensitive, and would always be allowed ahead of episodic entries. Yep, sorry about that X_X.

By the way, there are major issues with team blogs lately, and I am building a rather major rant about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, blame me for shifting stuff. @_@ I have mentioned before that editorials are less time-sensitive, and would always be allowed ahead of episodic entries. Yep, sorry about that X_X.</p>
<p>By the way, there are major issues with team blogs lately, and I am building a rather major rant about it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Crusader</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/11/21/since-time-immemorial-thoughts-on-the-blogging-tradition-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-288862</link>
		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://that.animeblogger.net/?p=14175#comment-288862</guid>
		<description>Well Comrade we try to follow rules but like a Kampfgruppe we adjust as the situation dictates, its not like we are some how hazing you...Impz stopped me from doing that. 

Even if THAT is more episodically oriented there is still something to be said for the variety of genres that we may cover at times, we all know Impz will always have an adversity to mecha, while I am largely allergic to harem. I consider a team blog to be like the Kampfgruppe concept an ad-hoc formation of authors who try to coordinate as best they can, if one author needs to focus on RL issues then another can help pick up the slack as a inactive blog runs the risk of becoming a dead blog. Furthermore it allows for Abteilung like yourself it allows for a certain degree of nomadic habits.

The blogosphere itself is essentially a substitute for the old anime club which seems to be on the decline in recent years. At least through blogs there can be more focused discussions with pictures it is also a more controlled environment than forum. I have never been a single person blogger, but in such circumstances there is a higher probability of burn out, recently IKnight invoked burn out at a point ever so close to his 1 year anniversary, he&#039;s not alone I reckon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Comrade we try to follow rules but like a Kampfgruppe we adjust as the situation dictates, its not like we are some how hazing you&#8230;Impz stopped me from doing that. </p>
<p>Even if THAT is more episodically oriented there is still something to be said for the variety of genres that we may cover at times, we all know Impz will always have an adversity to mecha, while I am largely allergic to harem. I consider a team blog to be like the Kampfgruppe concept an ad-hoc formation of authors who try to coordinate as best they can, if one author needs to focus on RL issues then another can help pick up the slack as a inactive blog runs the risk of becoming a dead blog. Furthermore it allows for Abteilung like yourself it allows for a certain degree of nomadic habits.</p>
<p>The blogosphere itself is essentially a substitute for the old anime club which seems to be on the decline in recent years. At least through blogs there can be more focused discussions with pictures it is also a more controlled environment than forum. I have never been a single person blogger, but in such circumstances there is a higher probability of burn out, recently IKnight invoked burn out at a point ever so close to his 1 year anniversary, he&#8217;s not alone I reckon.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
