Comments on: I’d rather watch it without subtitles (not a sub vs dub post!)

By: Twelve favorite posts of 2008: #10 Owen x Omo | Minimum Tempo

Twelve favorite posts of 2008: #10 Owen x Omo | Minimum Tempo — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:02:36 +0000

[...] other smartasses (maybe this only applies to Owen) bloggers discussed watching raw vs. subtitles, lelangir had a different idea. He posted “A [...]

By: Chaos;HEAd Episode 8 Overview - Linkage | Jinx!

Chaos;HEAd Episode 8 Overview - Linkage | Jinx! — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:00:55 +0000

[...] post out as late as it is, but English sub releases were delayed and as I’m not one of the badass raw-watchers, I was left with little choice but to sit tight. Episode 8 of Chaos;HEAd is probably the weakest [...]

By: icelogue

icelogue — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:39:22 +0000

Well, I understand maybe 5% Japanese, so the subs are my lifeline. Otherwise I don’t know what’s going on, and it annoys me. But if the anime is based on a manga, I can watch raws. (then find subs to get the smaller details)

@ Rent
Yea…… you can find that with subs on, but with raws it’s a lot worse. I wish anime didn’t have a budget.

By: Soldiers and mental bandwidth « orz - SWISS CHEESE PORN

Soldiers and mental bandwidth « orz - SWISS CHEESE PORN — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:33:02 +0000

[...] do agree with Lupus that subs can be a tad distracting. But you have to reorient your brain to absorb the information, [...]

By: THAT Animeblog - A Philosophical Discourse on the Real Debate on Fansubs vs. Raw

THAT Animeblog - A Philosophical Discourse on the Real Debate on Fansubs vs. Raw — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:15:05 +0000

[...] This is nonsensical. Enjoy. (the original sources here.) [...]

By: Rent

Rent — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:02:05 +0000

I tried watching my first raw after reading this post, with the little Japanese I understand and its amazing how much more you can appreciate the details… maybe it was because I was looking for details, but i found a lot of animation bugs and I even like the series less… (it was CHAOS;HEAD by the way)

By: transientem » [Meh-ta] My brain is not a pipe (but it’s okay if yours is)

Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:43:20 +0000

[...] the real topic of watching a series or episode more than once, might I propose a more applicable term: Learning Curve. If you want to learn more about what [...]

By: 13sugars

13sugars — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:44:55 +0000

I like ‘em raw! (woots) I watch the raws before the subs ’cause I can’t stand my own damn curiosity. It drives me to bits. But lately, I’ve only been watching the raws ’cause i lack time to watch the subs.

By: NihongoGaJouzuDesuNe

NihongoGaJouzuDesuNe — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:06:03 +0000

If you flip it around, and watch the episode first without subs, you’ll find it doesn’t take that long before you don’t need the subs. Just keep a grammar reference handy. (Most voice actors have really clear diction so it’s pretty easy to look up things you don’t know yet.)

By: CalAggie

CalAggie — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:42:46 +0000

I usually pick up on direction and music more than dialogue when watching subs, mostly due to not taking the translations literally. But there was one recent incident where I noticed something the second time around when watching without subtitles. I saw some of the early episodes of TTGL on fansubs while it was in R1 licesnsing limbo and BUT I didn’t pick up on the simplistic design of the interior Ganmen data interfaces until I was checking out the dub on television.

I agree that subsequent viewings of an anime or, more broadly, a film allow you to be more attentive to cinematography, set direction, musical cues, and other elements since you, as a viewer, have already experienced the main narrative. The same goes for music, theater, and literature – the repetition adds to your overall understanding of a work’s composition. However, I believe you can train yourself to become more aware of those supporting elements the first time you are consuming a particular piece of entertainment. Watching something a distance away from a large screen, if available, can help someone be able to read for comprehension and simultaneously investigate details with your eyes if that is your goal.

By: Moe Check! » Limited Mental Bandwidth

Moe Check! » Limited Mental Bandwidth — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:47:22 +0000

[...] I commented on Lupus’s post on the advantages of watching raw over subbed, it was Zaitcev’s casual dismissal of said [...]

By: Maura

Maura — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:05:33 +0000

I agree, I mostly can’t watch without subs. My Japanense is at a level where I can read and write really well, but when listening and speaking come in hand I find it hard. Tho my teacher told me when I go to Japan next year it will get better. So I don’t watch twice, and then third time to review. I watch twice with sub and then review. But on my own free time I’ll watch without subs, and even sometimes while watching subs I’ll just cover the subs.

By: TheBigN

TheBigN — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:52:13 +0000

When I watch subtitled anime on my computer, because I read fast, I tend to not miss anything on screen. And actually, I tend more to miss the subtitles because I focus on the animation more. But it helps that I can just rewind scenes I think I missed, and watch them all again.

By: Ryan A

Ryan A — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:40:03 +0000

Being a man, my brain is at a natural disadvantage when it comes to processing multiple streams of information, and I’ve never managed to learn to handle multi-tasking.

Second part is valid, first part is misconception (it was recently proven, also, if this were the case there would be only women fighter-jet [or rocket] pilots, because it is possibly the most demanding multi-task activity humans could be involved in).

By: usagijen

usagijen — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:18:15 +0000

I’d like to think the editorial writers who churn out insightful entries on various animes rewatch it for a number of times, unless they’re totally genius of course. Rewatch is a good thing, especially for animes like Eve no Jikan, the kind of that you’ll have a newfound appreciation for in each rewatch :3