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		<title>By: Kitsune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitsune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am behind on this anime, but completed this episode recently and posted plenty of pictures as usual. It seems that Jouslain is the best candidate to be the next leader, but I wonder what reservations Ajman has against him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am behind on this anime, but completed this episode recently and posted plenty of pictures as usual. It seems that Jouslain is the best candidate to be the next leader, but I wonder what reservations Ajman has against him.</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@skoll
Well I always thought the Swedes were some awfully nice blokes. ;)

@Plastik
Fan needs a beard and an eye-patch.

I use DEER for this one, usually I just go with whatever DDL is available first.

@Dorian Cornelius Jasper
Jouslain seems to be level headed but I think it&#039;s a bit too early to try and discern what he puts up as a facade and what is real. Becoming a duke in Tytania is no small thing and I am sure that he had to have been politically astute to get where he is. Right now I think he can go either way in terms of personality, Ariabart seems the least capable of putting up a false face, or his defeat just shook him up that badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@skoll<br />
Well I always thought the Swedes were some awfully nice blokes. <img src='http://that.animeblogger.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Plastik<br />
Fan needs a beard and an eye-patch.</p>
<p>I use DEER for this one, usually I just go with whatever DDL is available first.</p>
<p>@Dorian Cornelius Jasper<br />
Jouslain seems to be level headed but I think it&#8217;s a bit too early to try and discern what he puts up as a facade and what is real. Becoming a duke in Tytania is no small thing and I am sure that he had to have been politically astute to get where he is. Right now I think he can go either way in terms of personality, Ariabart seems the least capable of putting up a false face, or his defeat just shook him up that badly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorian Cornelius Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorian Cornelius Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm!

Grapevine talk seems to be right.  Same with promo materials.  Jouslain looks to be the protagonist, or at least &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; protagonist.  Fan Hulic needs a bit more screentime, but apparently info on him from fans of the novel is slim.  On the other hand, there&#039;s lots of info on Tytania&#039;s Four Dukes of Uraniborg, with Jouslain at the top of the list.

I think Fan might actually be a secondary character.

Curious, though.  Jouslain is shown to be the most level-headed, observant, and compassionate of the Four Dukes.  (He insulted Aryabhata in front of the other Dukes, but when he didn&#039;t have to put up a facade in front of him, he was kinder to the poor Bluey.  Or was &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; the front?  Hmm.)  Note that Tytania is not viewed in a very sympathetic light, as is quite obvious, but the central characters seem to be presented as the Dukes of Tytania.  The compassionate one, who skoll interpreted as a &quot;heroic villain,&quot; is also the only one who says of the Tytania clan/family/House that it does not serve a good purpose, it merely serves itself.  And he had what could have been interpreted as a villainous aside with Francia, implying that Tytania will need him one day.

But I wonder.

What if this scene is a veiled foreshadowing of a potential betrayal of Tytania?  They&#039;re not good guys, they&#039;re merely the major power in the universe.  But flashbacks of the family history show some rather unsympathetic bits (the picture of a mother and child right before their execution at the hands of Tytania&#039;s military) and the presented protagonist-figures--both the heroic bum Fan Hulic and  the more enigmatic Jouslain--are more defined by a opposition to Tytania.  In one case overt (and nearly accidental), the other in his beliefs.

(The current head of Tytania already suspects that Jouslain might not make the best choice as a successor, in spite of being the most qualified, and I suspect loyalty is the cause of his concern.)

I think Fan Hulic might be a red herring.  But hey, you never know.  Maybe Tytania really are the good guys, or at least a lesser evil.  Though describing things in terms of &quot;good and evil&quot; when morality is less of a concern than simple enlightened self-interest is probably not the best way to describe people in this show.

...

This is the first time I&#039;ve actually sat down to &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; about a show in a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm!</p>
<p>Grapevine talk seems to be right.  Same with promo materials.  Jouslain looks to be the protagonist, or at least <i>a</i> protagonist.  Fan Hulic needs a bit more screentime, but apparently info on him from fans of the novel is slim.  On the other hand, there&#8217;s lots of info on Tytania&#8217;s Four Dukes of Uraniborg, with Jouslain at the top of the list.</p>
<p>I think Fan might actually be a secondary character.</p>
<p>Curious, though.  Jouslain is shown to be the most level-headed, observant, and compassionate of the Four Dukes.  (He insulted Aryabhata in front of the other Dukes, but when he didn&#8217;t have to put up a facade in front of him, he was kinder to the poor Bluey.  Or was <i>that</i> the front?  Hmm.)  Note that Tytania is not viewed in a very sympathetic light, as is quite obvious, but the central characters seem to be presented as the Dukes of Tytania.  The compassionate one, who skoll interpreted as a &#8220;heroic villain,&#8221; is also the only one who says of the Tytania clan/family/House that it does not serve a good purpose, it merely serves itself.  And he had what could have been interpreted as a villainous aside with Francia, implying that Tytania will need him one day.</p>
<p>But I wonder.</p>
<p>What if this scene is a veiled foreshadowing of a potential betrayal of Tytania?  They&#8217;re not good guys, they&#8217;re merely the major power in the universe.  But flashbacks of the family history show some rather unsympathetic bits (the picture of a mother and child right before their execution at the hands of Tytania&#8217;s military) and the presented protagonist-figures&#8211;both the heroic bum Fan Hulic and  the more enigmatic Jouslain&#8211;are more defined by a opposition to Tytania.  In one case overt (and nearly accidental), the other in his beliefs.</p>
<p>(The current head of Tytania already suspects that Jouslain might not make the best choice as a successor, in spite of being the most qualified, and I suspect loyalty is the cause of his concern.)</p>
<p>I think Fan Hulic might be a red herring.  But hey, you never know.  Maybe Tytania really are the good guys, or at least a lesser evil.  Though describing things in terms of &#8220;good and evil&#8221; when morality is less of a concern than simple enlightened self-interest is probably not the best way to describe people in this show.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>This is the first time I&#8217;ve actually sat down to <i>think</i> about a show in a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Maipeisu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maipeisu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bubblegum genius&quot; is... genius! What better way to put it! Hey Crus, do you think there&#039;s a burning persona beneath all that happy-go-lucky exterior? A persona that would be ready to take a stand for or against the Tytanian empire? One ready to die for a cause? I&#039;m curious what his reaction will be when the dukes try to recruit him. The seed of dissent has been planted by the little shoe shine girl, though. Were it not for that little remark about Earth, I wonder if he could have been won over by the allure of Tytania&#039;s offer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bubblegum genius&#8221; is&#8230; genius! What better way to put it! Hey Crus, do you think there&#8217;s a burning persona beneath all that happy-go-lucky exterior? A persona that would be ready to take a stand for or against the Tytanian empire? One ready to die for a cause? I&#8217;m curious what his reaction will be when the dukes try to recruit him. The seed of dissent has been planted by the little shoe shine girl, though. Were it not for that little remark about Earth, I wonder if he could have been won over by the allure of Tytania&#8217;s offer?</p>
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		<title>By: Plastik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plastik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Know what I would like to see? Fan Hulic, the mercenary admiral. Heck, Fan Hulic the pirate doesn&#039;t sound too shabby either does it?

BTW, Crusader, which subs are you watching? The romanizations and some translations in your blog seem a bit different than the one I&#039;m watching</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know what I would like to see? Fan Hulic, the mercenary admiral. Heck, Fan Hulic the pirate doesn&#8217;t sound too shabby either does it?</p>
<p>BTW, Crusader, which subs are you watching? The romanizations and some translations in your blog seem a bit different than the one I&#8217;m watching</p>
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		<title>By: skoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>skoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Crusader

Morality is ALWAYS a political luxury, let&#039;s not be naive. Why is that the most stable nations are the most &#039;moral&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Crusader</p>
<p>Morality is ALWAYS a political luxury, let&#8217;s not be naive. Why is that the most stable nations are the most &#8216;moral&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Halcyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halcyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Crusader

I&#039;d like to see Fan Hulic become the Han Solo of the series.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;d like to see Fan Hulic become the Han Solo of the series.</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@skoll
Morality is a political luxury in this universe, it seems at least that keeps things from being too clear cut. Not sure what Idris&#039; deal is but hopefully he will have his mettle tested as well. 

Fan Hulic could use some more work, both in character and in series, but there is still time to give the bloke some depth.

@TwilightShiva
Soon Fan will be turning tricks at a turnpike...Maybe Francia can be head of Tytania...the shadow queen if you will.

@Zentari
Hopefully Greenie&#039;s turn will come, but it might be later rather than sooner.

@Halcyon
With anime you can never be too sure it is really a woman...be a real shame if Fan&#039;s luck with women dropped even lower. ;)

Women problems aside I hope they flesh out this Fan Hulic most heroic of the jobless a bit more.

@Square
It seems that the show is trying to encourage us to think a couple moves ahead at least.

@lubczyk
Let&#039;s hope it stays a bit high minded in the dialogue, other wise it might go down as LOGH for dummies...

@ghostlightning
I hope that they will reveal how long this show will run other wise if it gets nipped then we will only have a shadow of a series.

@RogerOskaner 
It&#039;s a series that is a bit harder to blog because of the heavy dialogue, but for LOGH fans this is something to be hopeful for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@skoll<br />
Morality is a political luxury in this universe, it seems at least that keeps things from being too clear cut. Not sure what Idris&#8217; deal is but hopefully he will have his mettle tested as well. </p>
<p>Fan Hulic could use some more work, both in character and in series, but there is still time to give the bloke some depth.</p>
<p>@TwilightShiva<br />
Soon Fan will be turning tricks at a turnpike&#8230;Maybe Francia can be head of Tytania&#8230;the shadow queen if you will.</p>
<p>@Zentari<br />
Hopefully Greenie&#8217;s turn will come, but it might be later rather than sooner.</p>
<p>@Halcyon<br />
With anime you can never be too sure it is really a woman&#8230;be a real shame if Fan&#8217;s luck with women dropped even lower. <img src='http://that.animeblogger.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Women problems aside I hope they flesh out this Fan Hulic most heroic of the jobless a bit more.</p>
<p>@Square<br />
It seems that the show is trying to encourage us to think a couple moves ahead at least.</p>
<p>@lubczyk<br />
Let&#8217;s hope it stays a bit high minded in the dialogue, other wise it might go down as LOGH for dummies&#8230;</p>
<p>@ghostlightning<br />
I hope that they will reveal how long this show will run other wise if it gets nipped then we will only have a shadow of a series.</p>
<p>@RogerOskaner<br />
It&#8217;s a series that is a bit harder to blog because of the heavy dialogue, but for LOGH fans this is something to be hopeful for.</p>
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		<title>By: RogerOskaner</title>
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		<dc:creator>RogerOskaner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good too see Tytania getting some love. It&#039;s funny that the few blogs that blog it, REALLY get into it. Like paragraphs of picking every little thing apart. It&#039;s great.

And for anybody who&#039;s enjoying Tytania right now, I just have to reccommend Legend of the Galactic Heroes - by the same writer of the original novels just like Tytania, and directed by the same director. It&#039;s a classic and one of the best space operas ever made, I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll all love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good too see Tytania getting some love. It&#8217;s funny that the few blogs that blog it, REALLY get into it. Like paragraphs of picking every little thing apart. It&#8217;s great.</p>
<p>And for anybody who&#8217;s enjoying Tytania right now, I just have to reccommend Legend of the Galactic Heroes &#8211; by the same writer of the original novels just like Tytania, and directed by the same director. It&#8217;s a classic and one of the best space operas ever made, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll all love it.</p>
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		<title>By: ghostlightning</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghostlightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>highly enjoyable second episode. i&#039;m looking forward to this now every week. i forsee less actual development for most of these characters in lieu of revelations. not everything will be as it seems - the douches may turn out to be the lesser evils, etc. but right now my eye is on juslan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>highly enjoyable second episode. i&#8217;m looking forward to this now every week. i forsee less actual development for most of these characters in lieu of revelations. not everything will be as it seems &#8211; the douches may turn out to be the lesser evils, etc. but right now my eye is on juslan.</p>
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		<title>By: lubczyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>lubczyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the dialogue in this show is relevant and unpretentious. Shows like Gundam 00 and Ghost in the Shell: SAC had lots of ultimately irrelevant techno babble while Tytania does not.

It&#039;s refreshing to finally watch a show that doesn&#039;t assume its audience are stupid, ADHD, action-crazed 12-year old boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the dialogue in this show is relevant and unpretentious. Shows like Gundam 00 and Ghost in the Shell: SAC had lots of ultimately irrelevant techno babble while Tytania does not.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s refreshing to finally watch a show that doesn&#8217;t assume its audience are stupid, ADHD, action-crazed 12-year old boys.</p>
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		<title>By: Square</title>
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		<dc:creator>Square</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blocks... of ... text... so... heavy!

hmm seems like a more chess like show, i&#039;m going to wait till there&#039;s more eps out since the pacing is still in intro/build foundation mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blocks&#8230; of &#8230; text&#8230; so&#8230; heavy!</p>
<p>hmm seems like a more chess like show, i&#8217;m going to wait till there&#8217;s more eps out since the pacing is still in intro/build foundation mode.</p>
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		<title>By: Halcyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halcyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said it before and I&#039;ll say it again: Tytania is one of the best shows that has come out this season.

Ironic that Fan&#039;s victory would get him fired by Euria&#039;s Mayor and basically exiled from the planet. WAY TO TREAT YOUR HERO AND SAVIOR. Ungrateful bastards. I hope they get bombed by Duke Blondie.

In regards to the women issue, they&#039;ve already touched on Fan&#039;s history with women and in the ending theme you can see that there&#039;s one woman that keeps popping up next to (or behind) Fan during the sequence. So it looks like there&#039;s definitely going to be some female presence in Tytania to rein in Fan&#039;s rampant womanizing cavalier nature. 

For some reason, every time I think of Fan Hulic, Erroll Flynn pops into my  head. May be because they both have weird sounding names or both have that playboy character about them. 

Either way, Tytania is succeeding where most shows this season are failing by having interesting characters, crisp dialogue, a strong overarching plot and decent animation.

Easily my second favorite show behind Gundam 00.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again: Tytania is one of the best shows that has come out this season.</p>
<p>Ironic that Fan&#8217;s victory would get him fired by Euria&#8217;s Mayor and basically exiled from the planet. WAY TO TREAT YOUR HERO AND SAVIOR. Ungrateful bastards. I hope they get bombed by Duke Blondie.</p>
<p>In regards to the women issue, they&#8217;ve already touched on Fan&#8217;s history with women and in the ending theme you can see that there&#8217;s one woman that keeps popping up next to (or behind) Fan during the sequence. So it looks like there&#8217;s definitely going to be some female presence in Tytania to rein in Fan&#8217;s rampant womanizing cavalier nature. </p>
<p>For some reason, every time I think of Fan Hulic, Erroll Flynn pops into my  head. May be because they both have weird sounding names or both have that playboy character about them. </p>
<p>Either way, Tytania is succeeding where most shows this season are failing by having interesting characters, crisp dialogue, a strong overarching plot and decent animation.</p>
<p>Easily my second favorite show behind Gundam 00.</p>
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		<title>By: Zentari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zentari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn , green is a douche.I would like to see HIS face after he get&#039;s his ass handed to him on a silver plater by Fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn , green is a douche.I would like to see HIS face after he get&#8217;s his ass handed to him on a silver plater by Fan.</p>
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		<title>By: TwilightShiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>TwilightShiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 08:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And this is how Admiral Fan Hulic became the most heroic bum in the universe...&quot; lol
This episode had a totally different feel from the first. I guess because this was more focused on background information and character development where the first episode was more of the intrigue and action that puts everything into motion.
But yeah, Juslan seems like the better candidate right now, while Idris is the annoying one, Ariabart is feeling weak after his loss and Zalisch is more of a brawn than brains kind of guy. Juslan seems to be the only one who thought about the larger picture and not solely about the lost battle. I think that&#039;s what really separated him from the others (are they all cousins?) But as Juslan says near the end of the ep, he won&#039;t really help Tytania unless it&#039;s in desperation, so until then, there aren&#039;t any good choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And this is how Admiral Fan Hulic became the most heroic bum in the universe&#8230;&#8221; lol<br />
This episode had a totally different feel from the first. I guess because this was more focused on background information and character development where the first episode was more of the intrigue and action that puts everything into motion.<br />
But yeah, Juslan seems like the better candidate right now, while Idris is the annoying one, Ariabart is feeling weak after his loss and Zalisch is more of a brawn than brains kind of guy. Juslan seems to be the only one who thought about the larger picture and not solely about the lost battle. I think that&#8217;s what really separated him from the others (are they all cousins?) But as Juslan says near the end of the ep, he won&#8217;t really help Tytania unless it&#8217;s in desperation, so until then, there aren&#8217;t any good choices.</p>
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