http://www.cliving.org/10secondstresstest.htm
Not a great source, but I cbf spending much time looking

I apologise if this has been discussed already, but can C2 commune with the god-collective thingy?

Although conspicuous, the cart drivers hidden face means very little, yet the origami crane means quite a bit more. The crane is merely a keepsake of Lelouch’s and there is absolutely no reason for C.C to be carrying it around.

Why is C.C happy about all of this?
If Lelouch is dead, then this is a royal pain in the ass for her. She would still be immortal and as lonely as ever directly contradicting her final lines. This means that she is either mortal, or Lelouch is with her. Her being mortal would require that Lelouch takes her code, and is therefore immortal himself; and then if he is with her, that means he could have a. taken her code, made her mortal and come with her; or b. somehow obtained the only other code which is Charles’.

When referring to Lelouch at the very end, C.C tilts her head back to the sky. Now either she’s gone nuts and is talking out loud to a dead guy and considered crazy by that guy driving the cart or that guy is Lelouch, and she’s not crazy because she’s talking right to him. One reason she might have looked up at the sky is because where else are ya gonna look in that position as you can’t look at the driver one because you’re above him and two it’s crazy hard to look back when you’re lying down like that.

I’ve read here that the revival of the immortals is instantaneous.
That is ridiculous. If that were so, then C.C would have gotten right back up when she got shot in the forehead in the very first episode, but she didn’t; in fact, she stayed there for quite a while it would seem as Lelouch had enough time to hijack Viletta’s Knightmare and then for Viletta to go after it.

Again I’ve read something else here that when we see people lying in a pool of their own blood that means they are dead. Truly dead. Just because Lelouch is lying in a pool of his own blood, doesn’t mean he’s dead. Back to the first episode: C.C was lying in a rather large pool of her blood, yet she is pretty much the last frame before the end. A pool of blood is nothing.

Then after all of this, Orange smiled and ordered a hasty retreat. Why would he do that? Another thing, why would he tell them to stop firing, charge Zero as if to attack and then to let Zero pass him so easily, and then even to smile and think “Go, masked knight”?
He would have had to know about Lelouch’s immortality because otherwise he would never have ordered them to stop firing, and even if he did, he wouldn’t have let Zero pass like that, and then to think go, masked knight, he would be betraying his loyalty to Lelouch and the royal family. Something about Jeremiah is that he is 50% man 50% machine and 200% f****** loyalty. There is no way he would have ever let him go without a challenge unless he knew Lelouch’s plan and that he wouldn’t truly be harmed. And then on his farm, he’s too happy… he’s just to happy to not know that Lelouch is alive and well wandering the world. Then there’s how Lelouch got away before we woke back up, which will happen eventually, although we don’t know when, but it could have been at any moment. That’s why I think Jeremiah ordered a retreat when they could have easily taken them on; to hide Lelouch for when he wakes back up and to help him recover.

When Lelouch was speaking to Suzaku, it did sound strangely familiar to what C.C said to Lelouch when she was making their contract. This is no evidence though. What is evidence is what happens when Nunnaly grabs Lelouch’s hand. She sees his memories of making the plan with Suzaku. She realizes the truth, and starts balling for Lelouch. The only one seen with this sort of power is C.C, who is immortal with a code. No, Nunnaly’s lie detector hand can’t read minds. I agree with something before about how she most likely can tell if they’re lying just because she’s blind, and blind people’s other senses are heightened with this disability and that just finalizes the fact that people can tell when other people are lying by their pulse. Another thing I’ve read is that she didn’t go into shock. Well who cares, when Lelouch touched C.C while she was slowing down Suzaku, she was making it where the memories obtained would shock you, not because you saw them in the first place but because they were horrible memories that would scar those who have not already witnessed it. All this combined just proves that somehow Lelouch has received a code in order to have the ability to transfer memories.
Something I’ve read is that Nunnally is crying because she knows that her brother is dying, but what’s the difference between dying and never even seeing again. To her, he is dead.

C.C crying at the altar could either be that she is crying about the fact that he is about to die and her wish will never be fulfilled or she is crying about the fact that he will have to live forever in her hell of immortality. It doesn’t matter if he lives or dies, she’s gonna cry.

How he got the code:
1. He got it from C.C:
C.C could have given Lelouch her code, which would fulfill the contract, and remove his geass. This would also give her mortality, allowing her to die. Please understand that her giving her code to him does not kill her, but allows her to die. This is shown because V.V was mortally wounded before he lost his code and the nun went insane and committed suicide. Going out on a limb here though: if by sealing her code away, she became her old slave girl self, would not losing her code be the same thing as sealing it away, thus doing that would again revert her back to her old slave girl self, making her final monologue impossible? If that’s true, then that rules out the possibility of her giving her code to Lelouch.

2. Lelouch obtained Charles’ code:
Charles is still Lelouch’s father, and it was my impression that he did feel something for his son. Still being turned into pink glitter could have pissed him off. But either mad or being compassionate he could have given Lelouch his code. We don’t know if he can do this or not, all we do know is that someone must have achieved a complete mastery of his geass, and that the recipient must die for the code to activate. Lelouch may have taken Charles’ code as well, which could be against his character but is still within the realm of possibility, but he may have already had his plan of self-sacrifice planned out this far ahead therefore giving him motive to take the code which would give him the chance to fulfill both C.C’s wish and his plan of saving the world from hate. On the code being forced on him: it is already known that most people in this world view immortality as a curse and Charles may be using this as a punishment for destroying him. Again this is merely speculation, and quite a bit of what I said is only speculation, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not probably right.

Now about you people saying that it’s no good unless he actually dies: BS
It doesn’t matters if he actually dies and stays dead just as long as the world thinks he’s dead, then his goal is achieved. It may not be what you think he deserves, but if he needn’t be dead, then he needn’t be dead.

It has been released somewhere in the dvd pack or something a list of those who died. The last on that list would be Lelouch vi Brittania 99th emperor of Britannia. True, he did DIE, but that doesn’t mean he is DEAD. To activate the code, one must first die; so yes, Lelouch died but he came back just as Charles, V.V, and C.C did. The whole part where you must first die for the code to activate would also explain how no one would have noticed his code on his body as it would not have appeared until after he has died.

R2… what does it mean. It’s in the title so it must be important, but there is somewhere I’ve heard something like that before. Oh yeah, C2 and V2. Strange coincidence isn’t it? In English, we have our L for Lelouch Lamperouge, but when using our alphabet, the Japanese don’t, they simply have an R. and his given name in their language is Rurushu. Without ‘L’ Lelouch’s initials are R.R. That’s a witch’s name now isn’t it? It’s also in the title of the series: R2 = R.R. = L.L. = Lelouch Lamperouge, so through syllogism: R2 = Lelouch.

Another thing about the title is this:
Code Geass
If Lelouch has taken Charles’ code, then that means that he still has his geass because it doesn’t cancel out the code. The reason the others don’t have their code is because their geass and code both came from the same person. When C.C. got her code, the nun didn’t have her’s anymore thereby cancelling her contract with C.C. And when Charles got his, the exact same thing happened. But Lelouch’s contract with C.C. would still be active if he got his code from Charles and this would enable him to reach “Code Geass” unlike any before him.
Of course, I don’t have enough examples to say that this is a concrete fact, but I can say that the pieces fall into place a little to nicely for me to overlook this.

There we are, why I believe Lelouch is alive and well, and hopefully I have persuaded some of you to believe that he is alive too; as if the guys that were here weren’t convincing enough. Anyways, thanks for reading this far, and listening to what I have to say.

ALL HAIL LELOUCH!

First of all I believe he is alive because I believe that he has taken on the role of an immortal from CC. The reasons for this I will state later first I am going to state why I say this is possible for those that have forgotten. Lelouch’s father the Emperor of Britania took by desire the power of immortality from VV, upon doing so he seemingly lost the power of Geass but gained immortality. This is consistant with when CC gained the power immortality she lost her Geass of forced love. Lelouch had already reached a state of completed Geass where both eyes became active when he used his Geass to convince the subconcious of humanity to refuse his father’s plan. This so far just means that there is the possibility not proof that Lelouch is an immortal.

My reasoning for him being an immortal is that I believe he did two things while dying that are only possible by the immortals who control Geass. The first were his parting words to Suzaku. I believe that they can be taken two ways, parting words to a friend who had to kill his own friend. Or how I believe they were given as terms of a contract, I believe that they were the formation of a contract between Lelouch and Suzaku where Lelouch gave him a Geass. The second event during his death was when Nunnaly touched his hand. She sees images of Lelouch and Suzaku planning this end to war. This could be the producers trying to remind the viewer what has happened in the past but any viewer that didn’t remember what he was doing is blind anyway. I believe this was use of the power that CC had where she could through touch view or allow to be viewed the memories of those in contact, similar to the event in the early part of the series when she stalled Suzaku then Lelouch touched her and saw her memories.

This isn’t an open and shut case but I choose to believe based on that information that Lelouch is alive and well. Doesn’t mean that I wish to see them continue it cause the series had a good ending, but just my views on his condition at the end.

1. King Arthur became king(of course), Lelouch became Emperor, both of which are the highest seats of power.

2.This one seems really flip-flopped, but stay with me now. In the Original tale, Arthur’s killer, Mordred, delivered a fatal cleace to Arthur’s head, he achieved this when Arthur thrusted him with his spear. All of Arthur’s actions being that which is just. The Knightmare Mordred’s head was the only thing critically damaged, and Lelouch was impaled by what he said was “The Sword of Justice”. It got flip-flopped. Lelouch’s head should’ve exploded out of sheer amazement. And Anya should’ve been fucked up by Orangeboys “Blade of I-should’ve-died-earlier-in-the-series-but-I’m-still-here-for-no-apparent-reason”. Geez, if rolo was here he’d of offed them all off without hesistation. And that’s the only good thing about that guy. Nothing else. I’m serious.

The “Merlin” Knightmare Frame will be introduced in the next series, seeing how Lelouch isn’t really dead, and decieved everyone once again. It’s main armament is a cannon that make the radar blip hundreds of “LOST” icons, whether or not it actually killed anything is unknown, because people are too lazy to look outside of the cockpit to confirm it, has the ability to recycle past characters, because we all know Nunally got boomed in that Fleija blast(I mean, come on, even Nunally’s advisor doesn’t show up anymore, yea that bitch, with the glasses), and is piloted by the cat, Arthur, because Arthur the Cat got Charle’s code and will now take the world by surprise with a grandiose and drawn-out plan like Lelouch ordered him to. Hey its not rape if you yell surprise.

Say what you will about Lelouch, but to an extent he had always been fighting against Britannian tyranny, and in the end, atoned for his sins. If he deserved to die, then so did Cornelia.

Sunrise Code Geass Team said:
“Even though Lelouch died(?), Geass lives on.” (Highlight to see Code Geass ending spoiler)
We’ve already put an end to the series but we’re hoping for making something more. In the near future, we may be able to announce something new.
Leaked by the newly formed AnimeJapan magazine group, thousands of people that have found out, are hyped for the new season. The series are said to come out sometime next year. For all those who have loved LeLouche and Zero, this is for your sake. Do not give up hope, he lives on, in both the story and our hearts. I hope this news has brought some comfort to those who believe that Llouch is alive.

All Hail Lelouch

and did not like 100 posts up or something people claim that one could just obtain the code, by reaching a certain level of geass mastery? who is to say that he did not obtain that level of mastery? he conqueored the whole world, defeated charles and his mother using geass to stop them. and to top all that he used geass and never lost his soul like everyone else seemed to do while having it even C.C. almost everyone else went insane with power or desire or abused their power in one way or another, lelouch acted mad at times to throw people off but almost every action he took was true to his purpose of making a better world for his sister and ridding the world of tyrrany and dictorships.

i kinda took it when he received the mark in his other eye, during the meeting wirth charles and his mother, that he had in fact reached a new mastery of his geass or heck it could be that was his code mark, but surely that second geass symbol that suddenly appeared meant something that has not been really discussed.

where C.C or C2 or whatever you want to call her overused her geass until she began to understand that forced love is not real love and became so disillusioned with life she wanted to die. V2 was just an arrogant selfish lying bastage it seems from the very start killing lulus mother in some selfish bid to keep his brother true to him and got no better with age. charles got so bored with the real world all he could think about was destroying the world and stopping or reversing time and ending the life of “gods”. the last guy C2 tried to make a contract with turned into a stalker psychopath. rolo was not even “human” and was so obsessed with lulu that he killed one woman he loved and was going to kill his sister so he had no competition. and so on most of the geass players in the story had very flawed characters or reasons for being.

and the end scene the driver’s got a towel, scarf, something over his head a huge floppy hat so you really can not make out the face, plus his build was very lulu like. which means one of 2 things that the show wanted to keep the option open and just made him all covered up like that. or it was lelouch, who’s face would be recognized all over the world being that he was the most hated dictator of the entire world, so he would have to be hidden while traveling.

and C2s inflection, when she said “right lalouch” sure seemed like she was talking to the driver of the cart, and if her statement was not about their happiness hard to see why she would be musing about his or her solo happiness to herself outloud with some stranger driving the cart, nevermind that she loved him and he loved her. so kinda hard to see how she could be so “in love” cheerful if he was in fact dead.

she had live 400 years or something i think it was in season 1 they mentioned, i might be wrong but that number pops to mind, or maybe i seen too many episodes of highlander. but she lived a long time in any case, and never met anyone that she could truely love, finally lets her heart thaw and falls for lalouch and then lets him kill himself, she of anyone knew his full plan from beginning to end and turned absolutely giddy, when he pushed kallen away to protect her, he obviously had feelings for her, and who knows if shirley had lived, but CC won he was the only woman left in his life, the one woman he trusted completely and one he cared a great deal about. tho seeing her shoot evil sideways glances or interrupting uncomfortable moments between lulu and other girls was always funny or her light jabs at all the zero fangirls to him.

so for my money he is alive, maybe its just the romantic in me tho .

lelouch after his father death
http://randomc.animeblogger.net:8000/image/CODE%20GEASS/CODE%20GEASS%20R2%20-%2021%20-%20Large%2030.jpg

C.C after the nun death
http://randomc.maximum7.net/image/CODE%20GEASS/CODE%20GEASS%20R2%20-%2015%20-%20Large%2027.jpg

lelouch have the code form his father and him and C.C can live
with each for ever a happy end what the way i like it

I don’t care if LL is dead or alive, just let me know which one and clear up some other questions not answered….like Did CC finally rid herself of the code? If not, that sucks for her.

Rumor has it that the director said “Lelouch is dead”. I’m fine with that, but don’t just leave it at that. that statement is also “ambiguous”. the open ending is an insult to fans, give us closure.

F@K Ledouch and Sunrise! drop dead!

I really enjoyed this anime series and would look forward to a follow-up episode or season. However, I would also understand why the creator might not want to. Another season might dilute its emotional momentum. R2 did, after all, end at a high note.

Many aspects of R2 depended on audience appreciation of season 1. R2 was a more radical development of season 1 groundwork thus it was impossible for it to remain Japan-centric given the events already occurred, meaning many of its plot holes were borne from the 1st season. To criticize R2 alone is probably an inaccurate attempt to compare a new series (season 1) with one that has been firmly introduced with many plots unsolved (R2). Viewers shouldn’t view R2 separately but a continuation. If you didn’t like R2, its because season 1 initiated plot-points that ultimately founded the ambiguities in R2.

Story: I agree that it’s a bit convoluted, especially with the (unnecessary?) philosophical meandering. Part of the problem here was too many philosophical themes were hinted (life/death, will, time, peace, means/ends dilemma etc) but given truncated, poor plot tie-in explanations. It comes off as rather pretentious. However I would not have liked to see this series become overly philosophized so I think it was appropriate to tinker with this aspect and not have every character overtly ‘realize’ the consequences. The philosophical undertones are best to be interpreted by each viewer.

The crux of the story was well constructed and executed barring a notable pitfall – whilst the 1st season was comprehensible after one viewing, most the episodes in R2 (especially towards the later half) required two+ viewings to really grasp aspects of the story and characterization. This was probably due to the Geass revelation which opened a can of worms for the story/plot, and abrupt story-telling.

Characters: Although many have criticized the seeming ’sidelining’ of major characters and introduction of too many new characters, this isn’t exactly a flaw of R2 but a a story direction the creators saw fitting for Code Geass. Given the size of the events occurring in R2, it would be odd to have a small cliche of characters. There is emphasis on ‘collectives’ versus ‘human will’ (a underlying tone of misunderstanding versus ramifications versus unification/forgiveness) and that these are themes significant to ALL people and not just those of importance (leaders, royalty) thus the story had to show more characters being affected, their reactions and own interpretations. I think the series competently delivered each character’s outlook and predisposition. A fixation on 1st season characters and their development would take the story on a different angle. The ‘global effect’ of Lelouch’s actions and the story’s undertones in a way necessitated ‘more’ characters. Less focus on individuals may also be a premise to convey the de-individualising effects Charles, Schneizel and Lelouch was causing. But this interpretation is probably non-intentional by CG creators. I could probably give a fitting description for how each ‘major 1st season’ character has developed in R2, but those descriptions are at best extrapolations from the limiting nature of R2’s plot. Another aspect audience may not easily grasp is Lelouch’s complex character. It is highly dubious his initial motivation was ‘just’ to ‘protect’ Nunnally or find out who killed his mother since throughout the series Lelouch hardly reminisced of the ‘happy’ times with Marianne. Inciting a war is perhaps not the most ideal method to ‘protect.’. Its more probable Lelouch had mixed motives; he despised Marianne’s killer for ruining his life, and to an extent Nunnally’s life; and because Lelouch was angered by a system that prizes Darwinism (Britannia endorses survival of the fittest which normally connotes physical prowess) since he lacks those overtly physical qualities. Overall Lelouch is quite complex and the series absolutely did not convey his character to a level of clarity to allow the audience to really understand how he is able to change throughout the series, and where/when his sense of ‘justice/righteousness’ was attained to explain his final sacrifice.

Mecha: If you seriously watched CG in anticipation of glorified mecha battles against a post-modernist or post-apocalyptic backdrop then say no more. For you have been greatly misled. Frankly, if anything is true about CG, it’s that people have liked it because Lelouch can still hand your ass to you on a plate without piloting a Gundam. Woops, I meant Knightmare. kNightmare? Seriously…

Personally I have enjoyed Code Geass, even though R2 sensationalized things a little, but that surely should have been expected. The series as a whole worked well despite calls for more dead characters which I don’t understand. True some characters ’should be dead’ in terms of the realistic improbability of surviving some of the stunts they endure, but the story didn’t require anymore characters to die (exception: Schneizel). Besides since the protagonist ‘dies’ its probably safe to say you want more living minor characters just to help round out the ending. Anymore deaths would be attributed to Lelouch’s deception, created misunderstandings and his eventual plan, thus you would be adding to Lelouch’s sins. The final effect is far better this way so Lelouch is largely the bearer of the pain caused.

These are my thoughts, and as of this date and from my projections, Code Geass will definitely surpass the mediocre effort that is Gundam 00.

Loved the show.