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an epic ending with fights

i practicly died laughing when orange did his kamakize thing, then theirs the orange farm

my only quetions is lelouch dead, is C.C. a virgin and where is super maid

I enjoyed it, even if I’m still a little sad.

The ending was decent, but we really did miss out on several things most people were expecting to see, even if the overall ending had remained the same.

Not much use in groaning though.

I think Lelouch is dead, for the record.

What the hell was the deal with the memory transfer to nunnally. Does lulu have a code or something and can transfer memories on accident like C.C. did when she died. This is way to open. Gay ending.

The latter half pretty of 25 sadly was pretty much the highpoint of a very lackluster 2nd season that and Nunnally’s little red slave outfit.

As for Lelouche’s ultimate fate, the intention of the writers and creators probably was for him to die, but given how death has become a revolving door in Geass where we’ve people surviving a purple nuke or a machine gun, I think there is plenty of ways for him to have survived.

What’s the deal with Arthur the cat? I feel like they’re trying to push the fact that he plays some important role but I can’t see it. Is he supposed to be the reincarnation of someone? If he is my guess is Suzaku’s father.

I think a smaller cast would’ve done wonders for this series. And more Cornelia fanservice.

I’ll admit it, I cried like a big baby during the ending scenes. I wasn’t expecting it, but the struggles and zigzags of the series just sort of cascaded into a wrecking ball of emotion and I felt like I finally understood what the series was trying to convey in one fell swoop.

The only thought going through my head most of the episode was, “will Lulu truly have the courage to sacrifice his life after soliciting the entire world’s curses?” He most certainly did, and redeemed himself as a character in my eyes by doing so. He bravely found a way to justify all of his past actions. I was surprised at how quickly it happened.

Orange-kun is my HERO. I loved how they wrapped a GIANT chain around Schneizel.

I think this is really the most appropriate way to end the series. I wasn’t satisfied with it either but it was obvious that Lelouch was going to become a martyr. Having said that, his death scene was very well done. He passes on the torch and the responsibility of watching over the world to Suzaku. Suzaku dons the mask of Zero and can never again have a normal life OR happiness which is his penance for killing his father and his best friend.

Orange-kun is the official GAR poster boy for this series. Dude was unstoppable and loyal to the very end.

None of the characters that should have died actually died (except for Diethard). Schneizel becomes a puppet for ZeroZaku.

I raged when I first saw this episode because it met NONE of my expectations but then again, what episodes (that weren’t spoiled) did meet expectations this season?

Essentially, everyone gets to have a nice happy life at the cost of the main character. Ogi, being the biggest fucking idiot in the entire series, manages to become Prime Minister.. Biggest trolling ever.

A couple of questions were left unanswered by the finale, like C.C.’s real name, how Nunnally can uncover Lelouch’s entire plot just by touching his hand. whatever happened to Odysseus, Guinevuire and Carline, if Xing Ke finally dies (he was “short on time” for most of the 2nd half of the series) and finally, WHAT THE FUCK EVER HAPPENED TO THE KNIGHT OF 9? FUCKING WHERE. Hopefully they’ve resolve these questions with a DVD only sound episode or picture drama or something. The last few minutes leave a little ray of hope for C.C. as she commented on Geass making people lonely only to point out that it had the opposite effect in this case. Lelouch’s Geass eventually brought happiness to the world and even, possibly, true love to C.C. eventhough she (apparently) remains immortal.

Between this and Macross Frontier, I’ve been thoroughly disappointed with the endings this season.

FYI, If you’re looking for another action-oriented series to blog Kurogane no Linebacker is a good bet. The source material is pretty good so hopefully they won’t fuck up the adapation.

Is it weird that I found Nunna-chan really hot on that red dress during the execution scene? Please tell me I’m not the only one >_>

I was really happy that Kallen kicked Suzaku’s ass… too bad the script did her such disservice through the entire season.

I think it only really makes sense for Lelouch to be alive. Why wouldn’t they do the code transfer thing? Anyone else notice that the whole thing about C.C.’s immortality pretty much drop out of the plot, as if to set up for a more ambiguous ending? Then again, to be consistent with the rest of the cast, Lelouch is overdue for a monumentally stupid move. It’s really too bad they didn’t just explicitly show the ending as Lelouch pulling one last big deception.

Oh dear, so this is their idea of selling more DVDs? more picture books episodes….. To Sunrise: Want to save money? Reduce the cast…EARLY next time

“SuzakuxLulu ending confirmed…”

YES!! My friend owes me money!

I loved the last episode. I watched it three times. I was so surprised and upset that Lelouch died. I wanted him to live. There where a lot of other characters who should have kicked the bucket. Ogi Prime Minister!!??!!! You got to be kidding me! That is jacked up. I hope there is an OVA. Maybe they will bring back Lelouch. I hope. Orange-kun an orange farmer…LOL!!! What else can I say. Loved the series kind of sad it’s over. Holding out for OVA.

@Raindog

Not sure, doubtful, and unknown.

Orange-kun is the best character in this show.

Rivalz is a pimp.

@XXX

Side materials, we can only hope can fill in what was missing.

@Heretic_G

It’s not wrong to cry, it was actually pretty emotional. When you’ve followed a show for 50 episodes, even one like this, you get emotionally attached to the characters. Plus another wonderful Hitomi insert song set a great mood.

@Jeph

Like many other things in CG, he’s there for the lulz.

@CJ

The show borrowed heavily from both Gundam and Eva, as you seem to have notice.

I didn’t want Lelouch to die either, but at least the way they did it was acceptable. It gave him peace and redemption, finally achieving his goals.

@Biankita

I think Cornelia is exhausted from it all, and Nunally has more recent stature. Plus she’s much more diplomatic, while Cornelia is more of a war-like leader, which doesn’t help in the current state of the world.

And yeah, Suzaku is no Zero when it comes to charisma and strategic brainpower. But they really don’t need that for the show anymore, he just needs to act the symbol.

@Maipeisu

Lelouch has by far the best character development in the show, I had no doubt he was ready to sacrifice himself for everyone else. He’s someone who believes in justice and paying for one’s sins.

Seeing how everyone else came back to life I’m sure Lelouche did as well.
I’ll continue to wait for a sunrise mecha series which doesn’t end with a war to end all wars.

I can’t believe that we got through an entire series that was basically beating us over the head with Arthurian legend references and we didn’t get a single “Merlin” reference. I was expecting either Charles or Schneizel to bust out with some uber-knightmare called the Merlin.

Orange-kun pulling a TTGL jump-out-of-screwed-mechas was epic.

Orange-kun was epic. JEREMIAH GOTTWALD.

The Suzaku-Zero thing was great, I thought. I like Suzaku a lot, I dunno why. On a superficial level, probably.

2nd time, Orange-kun was so epic.

hey guys i was on a chat site bout this and thousands of conspiracy theories came up about his death

this one is mine

it wasnt the real lelouch it was super maido in a mask like in episodes 11-12
if you notice shes not seen again after her little role

also

@ calawain
Expect an Orange-kun post of awesomeness sometime this week, I’m collecting large amounts of art and screenshots

hey if you want i have a loop video of him doin the morderd takedown
like the one you set up of kallen abusing poor drugzaku

Has anyone considered that the dead Lelouch is super maido? ;D
I mean we haven’t seen her anywhere…

@Jeph

Now that you mention it, that fact is a bit surprising.

@Lelangir

Giga Orange Breaker!

@EvilDevil

We now have two loli empresses with Tianzi and Nunally. This show certainly knows how to pander.

@Raindog

Sure thing man, if you want to e-mail it to the blog e-mail with “To Calawain” in the subject line that would be great. E-mail is thatATanimebloggerDOTnet.

@Ominae

That would be so damn epic, Supameido Ninja + Orange against burglars and hobbits stealing their crops.

@Sleepy

She was in one of the prison shots briefly with Rakshata and them.

OMG, Lelouch is dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

did any one understand what the title meant? (Re;)

@Calawain

- Don’t forget Anya and maybe Jeremiah has the Siegfried somewhere hidden in his farm ready for an attack.

PS - Guess all of us had gotten the “Just as Planned” thing.

thats no sayaco next to cecile thats one of the ikaruga operater chicks

Ups sorry to post again, but I forgot one thing to mention. at the end of the episode when C.C. is talking. C.C. was actually talking moving her lips, if she was thinking or talking with a possible dead lulu, what was the reason of talking, sunrise could show just the voice of her saying those words, like with Karen in the epiloge. But the didn’t becuase she as talking with the driver that is Lelouch!!!!!!

I must add……………… ALL HAIL LELOUCH!!!!!!

YAY ORANGE-KUN. Fucking badass.
And it’s okay; you weren’t the only one who cried when Nunally started bawling. ;D

I really wouldn’t have minded to see a little *more* with Kallen, however…
…Or Cornelia…

Why everyone wants Lelouch to live? His death is required for Zero Requiem. Plus C.C was crying while praying to God.
Beside if you listen to the last line C.C said,
“Geass, the power of Kings, isolates people. or…maybe it’s not quite like that.”
Lelouch proved C.C’s “experience” to be incorrect, thus giving her more reasons to live.
Isn’t that a better ending than C.C dying with a smile?

I think i get it, When Nunnaly touched Lelouch she saw all his memorys. Thats what C.C. Could do cuz she had the code thingy. Maybe he got the code and that memory…errr…attack. I think they purposly didnt clarify if he lived or not because they might not be sure if their ready to end it yet.

Anyone else realize that C.C spoke louder when she said ‘Right, Lelouch?’ as if talking to the driver? [Who has, coincidentally, Lelouch’s hair… sorta…]
Also, just thinking about this… Nunnally ‘read’ Lelouch’s… thoughts and memories when she touched his hand [making him the REAL Lelouch], but wouldn’t that mean the Lelouch now has a ‘Code’ and has now 1000000000000HP with Insta-Regen and Invincibility?
Meh. Just my thoughts.

I hate you, too, Lelouch. T_T But if it’s true that you’re now the wagon driver, I’m fine with it. (But I suggest you tell Nunally and Suzaku the truth instead. And that you four just go on wandering… maybe with Super Maid with you). It would sound like I’m suggesting a lame ending, but, meh, I want something like that that something as lonely as the one you came up with. Such a masochist.

But I think it’s a good ending. My annoyance with Nunally vanished the instant she cried. Yeah, I’m that easily swayed.

Not to sound like a noob or anything but what is OVA?

lol :]

I’ve watched the whole series and i didn’t overly-like the ending yet it was i guess you could say the best way to end it, i don’t see any other way to end it because of the fact that Lelouch was hated so much, even if he did stay Emperor, everyone would hate him…

So other than all the weird little bits here and there; GREAT ENDING!

@ Calawain

- If he can’t do it, then his hidden blade (Assuming he still has it) and his kickass martial arts can do the stuff with the ninja maid. Not sure how Anya can fight the orange thieves. Take pictures of them and annoy them? XP

In the end the 2 most powerful nation and 2 best friends had vanish and the world had been united under the name of Zero Requiem!! All Hail The Real Hero N Demon!! Lelouch vi Britania!! haha… I like the ending and hate the ending cos it too sad!! T.T

PS : i do hope it will had an OVA which tell about how everyone doing after Lelouch die. A more detail not like a flash like in the end of episode 25….

I think Lelouch is immortal, he show the past viewing technique with his sister before he die is’nt it? Only immortal can do that is’nt it? So I don’t think this will be the last…

Just because Xing-ke was not in the wedding picture doesn’t mean he’s dead.
Did anyone notice that Xing-ke’s knightmare frame Shen-hu was there when empress Nunally shakes hands with Prime Minister Ohgi? I guess he’s not dead but too busy to attend Ohgi X Villeta Wedding, or perhaps he’s the Cameraman. hehe.

GOD when i saw the lancelot explode i was like yes suzuku died, but aigh in the end too bad ;(. Well anyway if u guys think about it, its VERY possible that lelouch did gain the immortality code, if u watch the scenes from where the 2 month time skip happens in the episode to his death u see no evidence that he has his geass anymore, which would support him gaining immortality, and that could be the reason that CC is crying at the time because now he has to suffer and eternity of life, leading to the possibility that lelouch took CC’s Code. well thts one theory anyways,but i actually think its better that lelouch in my mind died, it just put an end to this trainwreck that started after episode 13, though i really felt that no justice was brought to lelouch in the end he was sort of justified and though his character is stained forever to the world atleast some understood him in the end. The way i see it continuing the series would be meaningless since lelouch is now dead to everyone (except possibly cc) and bringing him back would just be a “WTF” moment, though i am still pretty mad that the story ended like tht for him with so many plot holes and such surrounding the series theres not much that can be done about it now, even though they left such a great debate left over to wheather lelouch is dead or not the writers probably wanted it that way since the series was so rushed anyways.

When Lulu does something, there is always a twist somewhere, so I suspect he survived. LOL

Forgot/read past CJ’s post. R1 = Rebellion 1. R2 = Rebellion 2. I’m sorry, but can you really be that stupid? And if anything, Lulu will become L.L. in honor of his first and (fake) last name, and the first four letters of his nickname.

Also, THANK YOU Firestarter for this post:

I just realized something.
everyone has been complaining how Karen’s character got ruined, but it’s actually Lelouch’s “keikaku doori”. I mean she could have joined Lelouch if he asked her, but he wanted Karen to be his enemy so that she can “finish off” Suzaku as one of the requirement for Zero Requiem. So her character was not ruined, she just got played into Lelouch’s plan, that’s all.
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My agreement with you is strong. Trainwreck my ass…

@Shitsu

Gud point about RR, but that still leaves the unexplained “memory transfer” that Nunnally experienced upon touching C2…
Either sunrise was just looking for a convenient way of redeeming Lelouch with Nunnally, or it’s actually part of a greater story….

Eitherway, Lelouch might have accpeted his death, but fans like me DO NOT!!!

The ending was great though, brings back nostalgic memories of the death of Saber during the end…. Hate the music though, “Colors” would have been a better choice, or one of the insert songs by Hitomi.

alright, there are so many clues that say that lelouch is still alive

1) Lelouch was able to transport memories to Nunnaly (remember what happened when C.C.’s memories were transferred to Lelouch first season? This points to Lelouch having a code)

2) Lelouch and C.C. vow to stand by each other as allies FOREVER

3) For the critical thinkers and those who really pay attention… the Code was questionably passed to Lelouch ( ep21, When Charles chokes Lelouch with his hand, where his code appears, the final disintegration of charles is without his hand…. which implies it stayed with Lelouch. The code activates after you die, e.g. Charles shooting himself and the Nun killing C.C.)

4) The wagon driver was not revealed, and C.C. talks directly to Lelouch saying that the power of kings makes you solitary, but not entirely true. Therefore, can Lelouch be not solitary if he’s dead, or not solitary with C.C…. Makes all the sense in the world you guys…

Final Conclusion: Lelouch is Alive! All those who wanted a Lelouch C.C. ending like i did, i hope this confirmation gave you proper resolution to the series C.C. and Lelouch will forever live together as immortals…

Honestly I think that Lulu is alive, it would be logical for him to live because this peaceful future he has devised will not last long and he would need to be alive to maintain this peace. If he is immortal he would be able to manipulate the world into a peaceful state whenever its on a brink of destruction. If all that I have said is true then its C.C. x Lelouch all the way.

Just a thought,

Ever wondered about the naming of the action itself?

Zero Requiem

Could it mean the song of the dead for zero? or possibly zero as a numerical value for nothing which would imply the absence of requiem??

Also, I think that Lelouch isn’t dead. I think it’s possible that he inherited the code from C.C. I doubt he’d get it from his father, the rationale is because when you gain the code, you lose your powers. He clearly had his powers at multiple times before finally gaining control of the Damocles. What you don’t see is his use of his powers in the final scenes of the episode. I would think that the transfer of the code occurred between the final battle and this final scene. Also it seems interesting that as Suzaku kills Lelouch, he gives him the task or “geass” to help the world.

Also, since he contains the code, and has lost his original geass powers, it’s not like his coming back will really change things. He’s already said his farewell to all and everyone believes him to be dead. The world as it exists is based around the fact that he’s dead and they live on moving forward with the opportunity Lelouch has given to them. It reminds me heavily of the Bible and Jesus dying for everybody and then saying that he’ll come back someday as opposed to him coming back out in the open and saying “howdy guys, i’m not really dead or anything, but pretend like i am and live with hope?”

There is one thing that I do have to wonder about is if Suzaku knows if the code brings immortality and if he knows if Lelouch has the code. If that were the case, then I doubt he’d cry when he kills Lelouch which argues the case that if Suzaku knows about the code and its immortality, then Lelouch really is dead. I’m just not aware of any circumstances in which Suzaku was revealed to have possessed this knowledge.

But other than that, I did enjoy the series as a whole and how it ended. It is interesting to see how Suzaku killed his own father to peaceably stop the war which resulted in the turmoil that occurred throughout the series and how killing Lelouch created the peace that the series ends upon.

Lelouch is not alive. If he were alive, he would’ve been revived immediately after he died in front of a truckload of people.

Reviving after death isn’t something that takes months in Geass. It’s something that happens within a few minutes (See: C.C., V.V., Charles for examples).

Final Conclusion: He’s dead.

“when you gain the code, you lose your powers”

thats when you gain the code from the same person who gave you the geass, if you got it form someone else, then you keep your geass.

V.V obviously gave charles the geass thats why when charlie took his code, no more memory geass hax.

Because of this, I dont think that anyone even lelouch realized that he had the code.

its possible that orange took the body as he retreated or something. It took c.c a while to revive, charles not so much, its not set in stone that they have to revive right away, that was basically used for plot purposes. but since other evidence (like the memory exchange) points to the fact that hes alive I say that the nit picks of how long it took him to revive are meaningless.

ALL HAIL LELOUCH!!

(yes hes alive, sorry halcyon but you’re wrong;)

If you really think that, after being presumed dead once already, Cornelia/Schneizel/the UFN and the BK wouldn’t have checked if Lelouch was actually dead you’re smoking crack.

There’s also, no way in bloody hell, that Nunnally was letting go of her Oniisama’s dead body. Chances are, everyone confirmed Lelouch before moving on.

Also, the speculation about Lelouch receiving Charles’ code is just fucking dumb. There’s no evidence to support that. That’s just a delusional fantasy. Charles did not GIVE his code to anyone. The Code has to either be forcibly given to a recipient (as was the case with C.C.) or taken by the recipient (as was the case with Charles). It’s pretty clear that Charles wanted to kill Lelouch or at the very least stop him from messing up his plans. He wasn’t going to give Lelouch his code. Lelouch also did not want to live forever so it’s HIGHLY unlikely that he took Charles’ code by force.

Lelouch wanted to die to atone for all of his sins and all of the deaths he felt responsible for (Shirley, Rolo, Euphie, etc). He had already passed on responsibility of watching over the world to Suzaku, there was nothing left for him to live for.

Lelouch is still alive.

1) When Charles and Marianne were killed in C’s world, Suzaku stated that he must kill Lelouch and take revenge for Euphemia. Then they cut straight to where Lelouch became emperor. If an OVA comes out I would expect to see a continuation of this scene that shows Suzaku Slaying Lelouch only to find out that Lelouch was then immortal. Then that’s when the final plan of Zero Requiem came to be.

The Code was questionably passed to Lelouch When Charles chokes Lelouch with his hand, where his code appears, the final disintegration of charles is without his hand…. which implies it stayed with Lelouch. The code activates after you die.

This is an interesting point and may be true or maybe just an over analysis. In that scenario, both Lelouch and C.C. are then immortal. Interesting….

Another possible scenario is that Suzaku did kill Lelouch in C’s world and as Lelouch was drawing his last breaths, C.C. gave him her code to save him. Her one driving force in serving Lelouch was that she couldn’t let him die so he can complete his promise to her. This could also be an over analysis on my part, but it does make some sense. In that case, C.C. became mortal and could have died in her fight with Kallen. That would also explain her desire to win that fight.

2) C.C’s original wish when she was given the power of Geass was to be loved. Even though her power gave her that wish, it wasn’t true love and she eventually locked it away. Her wish then became to die, becuase she had become disgusted with life, but was immortal. The entire reason she made the bargain with Lelouch in the first place.

Then she fell in love with Lelouch and started to long for a life with him and started caring for happiness and victory which was sort of stated during her final battle with Kallen. Lelouch was the first true love that she had ever felt. For her to display a sort of happiness at the end talking to Lelouch out loud stating that Geass doesn’t bring solitude after all clearly is a sign that he is still alive.

This point stands out even more so that C.C. herself is alive and happy since the only reason she could be both happy and alive is with Lelouch. Otherwise she would either be dead as originally promised by Lelouch, or be completely depressed and distraught that Lelouch did not keep his original promise to her before he died. When I saw her crying at the church, I thought that was the case, but then the very end kills that theory. So Lelouch is still alive.

If it was C.C. who gave Lelouch immortality, that would mean that she is mortal. Then there is absolutely no reason she should be alive, she could have just simply committed suicide. Unless she intends to live the rest of her life with Lelouch and have that love that she always wanted but never thought would exist for her.

3) The point when Lelouch is dying, Nunnaly receives the images of what Lelouch planned. The only time that has happened is by C.C. who is immortal. This also supports that Lelouch is immortal as C.C. is or once was.

4) When Suzaku drove his sword through Lelouch, did Lelouch give Suzaku the power of Geass. This also would suggest that Lelouch is immortal. Suzaku stated that he accepts this Geass. It could have been the curse of being Zero for life and the will to live bestowed by Lelouch’s Geass. Perhaps Suzaku himself now posses his own unique power.

- Either way the writers did their jobs well. By knowingly sparking this debate, they have successfully done their jobs and left plenty of room for expansion on the story line. However, if Code Geass is left as is with no more story to tell, then the ending has also served it’s purpose in closing out the main goal that Lelouch set To accomplish: “TO CREATE A WORLD WHERE HIS SISTER NUNNALY COULD LIVE IN HAPPINESS AND HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY AT HER DISPOSAL.”

She is now her own person with her own goals, ideals and ambitions to follow. His new world is for her and by extension to the all those who were living in fear, persecution and were denied the chance live to their fullest potential.

But I sure hope the story continues, there are a lot of unanswered questions.
1- Is Lelouch really alive? Is he Immortal?
2- Is C.C. still immortal? Did she pass it on to Lelouch?
3- Did Lelouch give Suzaku a real Geass Power? What Geass power is it?
4- The possibilities in exploring the origins of Geass. Where did it come from?

There can even be a season 3 in store for us.

A stunning episode, not very many big plot twists that we all know Sunrise loves to throw at us. I saw the his death at the end coming(sopposed death i should say, but ill get back to that in a sec) Now Sunrise loves to pull “magictricks” and when i say this i mean they give you big stunning events to avert your attetion away from small details. Lelouch death being the big eye averter. I may be gettin a little off topic here but there is a point i promise. Now sunrise has done this before in the series popped “illusions” to grab focus away from the real picture. but now on to the main point after watching the episode a few times over i grabbed these details that our old pal lelouch has the deed of fooling us once again.

Facts to consider from the series on Geass and the Code
1.When the person who weilds the geass reaches a certain level of power the code can be received
2.The code only activates once that person dies once.
3.the original code bearer will live after the exchange unless one of two things occur they are wounded fataly before giving the code(V.V.’s case) or they are killed by the new code bearer.
4. The code once activated alows the bearer to show someone he/she touches disturbing images and memories.

Things to consider about why lelouch would stay alive after his death
1.We know lelouch well by this point and even if does go a little “crazy” at times he keeps promise to friends and hates seeing them hurt.(not really a good one but i just wanted to put that one out there)
2.Now lelouch made promises to 2 people things he would do when this was all over
a.Suzaku-to make the world forget about euphys crime through their joint hatred towards him
b. C.C.-to give her happiness and allow her to die with a smile on her face
3.Now he completed the promise made to suzaku quite well through zero requim
4. C.C. on the other hand we didnt “see” her wish completed(to be loved)
5. pertaining to #4 (if you havent figured this out by now then stop reading and go play with a paddle ball because this isnt gonna do anything for you) CC loves lelouch and wanted to live out her life with him he was indeed the first person she loved truly as “Jay” put it. And lelouch became quite aware of this so the only way he could fufill her wish was to be with her in the end( meaning him dieing would kinda be anti-climatic for her)
6.Now we come back to his sister even though lelouch has absoult faith in Suzaku(god only knows why) knowing him im guessing hed want to keep an eye on her from a good distance.
7. Now as for the last one for this part of my little section lelouch i master of strategy and it wouldnt be hard for him to figure the plan out for him to complete his wish to BOTH Suzaku and CC

Now here is the final section a bet your tired of reading this, huh?(XP)

Evidence of Lelouch gaining the code and his survival
1.pay attetion in the seen when CC is crying do you think those are tears of joy or sadness. Aso look at her forhead keenly in this scene(i mean frame by frame it if you have to.) you see see no code,eh?
2. the second nunaly touches lelouches hand he shows her his and suzaku’s entire plan through his memories, and what does that mean class? it means he received the code. catching on now?
3.Now i know some of you think him and CC gained the same bond like the one she had when mariane died(good theory but easily disproven)you have to rember that when cc talked to mariane, her soul was still on this plane of exstince just in a different body( thanks to her geass) If lelouch really died he wouldnt be be able to talk to her subconsciously, see ing as the fact of the matter was that he would no longer be in this plane of exstence)
4.referring to the one above CC looked way to cheerful for the one person she ever loved to have just died.(see what im gettin at here?)
5.Now this one i thought was odd off the bat but didnt pick it up till my third time thorugh the episode. the cart driver now why in gods name would his face be covered if it was just some random person, eh? also you do slightly notice black hair. but like i said sunrise likes to keep ur attetion away from the bigger picture. and they like to play the game of just how well you have been paying attetion to their show. Now some you stubborn people and you know who you are, are gonna read this and say “pheesh he’s crazy,etc.” but the whole point of being in a discuss is to be open minded and see all side of an argument until you have enough evidence to base an answer. And on my final note till the series review i will say this i welcome you to disprove me and i hope this has helped some of you decide if he is alive or dead.

I loved CG even if LeLouch died, because it was a good plan and i was so happy that suzaku didn’t die, and i kid of knew that this would be one of those things where the main character would die like DeathNote because they keep making the main character the evil person that kills everyone and manipulates them to his will,still i was was happy when it was revealed that it was to end the hatred, and that Nunally was shown his true intentions but sad when she did her cry and i was on the verge of tears throught the whole montage with the plan and everyone looking,
I also hope that they make an OVA or maybe a story about some one in other than Japan that gets geass like the Europe union or china, a whole new story that has like interlocking parts from the original. well that actually sound like a ban fan fic but yeah i just don’t want the story to end sort of like the Twilight series. or maybe a prequel of how the Emperor got his Geass and mat VV and ends when Marianne dies and LeLouch leaves.
Also there are a lot of lose ends to tie up like what actually happens to the characters in the end or maybe LeLouch took CC code and it actually still alive that would be cool. Like how do we know? CC did say right LeLouch but she always talks about random things like when she used to talk to Marianne before she was killed.

Well, well… I saw the episode the first time and I was like “OH SHI-, Lelouch is dead!” and I started trolling people who were in denial for my lulz. After all, denial is the first stage out of the five stages in the process of grieving… right? But then I got to thinking about it and I feel it’s fairly reasonable Lelouch is alive in spite of my original claim.

I have to agree with Chaotic Reaper’s theory, which is more or less how I rationalized Lelouch’s survival; I agreed with all of his said points… especially about Nunnally’s visions upon touching Lelouch, which means Lelouch has the Code and therefore, he has immortality. To make my point here more clear, remember the same thing happened to Suzaku in season 1 when he made contact with CC? Suzaku saw flashbacks of CC’s past similar to what happened to Nunnally when she touched Lelouch.

And Yes… I did notice the wagon drivers black hair after going through it the second time. Lelouch is one of the few characters who has black hair in Code Geass. While this is relatively weak evidence, it does support the theory that the wagon driver is Lelouch… CC angles her head back and asks “Right, Lelouch?” SO… either CC was talking to Lelouch, the wagon driver, or she has become demented and delusional. Which I would find to be rather amusing… lol.

You also mentioned the origami crane, Chaotic Reaper… your idea about it makes sense.

Kyokii just look a the thin black hair of the driver, it is in the middle of the cheek…… got it!!!! Now just put any image of Lelouch an look at this face, the thinnest hair of Lelouch in in the middle of his cheek, between the mouth and the eyes. There is another profe that Lelouch is alive

Once again, alluding back to the dark knight thing, if you think about it you could correlate many ideas that are similar with Code Geass.

Suzaku-Two Face(Zero(Hero)/Suzaku(Villain)
Lelouch-Batman

Just a thought

But yea I agree with Chaotic Reaper, Lelouch is alive. I would love to see an OVA that maybe sees into the future. If they could just make that CC x Lelouch official, I’d be glad. Before they come out with those OVAs if they make them, what to do?

@Zentari

Nice thinking , but it kinda falls apart when you realise that months didn’t pass with us watching, since the timeskip started right after his death (thus no one knows what happened, not me and certainly not you).

The point is, when someone who has received a Code dies they are immediately revived as was the case with C.C., V.V. and Charles. If Lelouch had received a Code from Charles he would’ve revived immediately after he ‘died’ during the Black Knights and Cornelia’s storming the parade.

You seem to believe if Lelouch lived, it must have been planned,which is not necessarily the case.On top of that we know next to NOTHING about the code: for all Lelouch knew, offing daddy could give him the ticket.The only part we seem to agree on is that you need to die to activate it.

What we do know about the code is that:

A. It must be either forcibly taken by someone or forced ONTO someone.
B. The only ‘candidate’ that people are positing that happening to was Charles.

I’ve already debunked the theory of Charles’ code passing onto Lelouch. No one can refute this. Charles certainly didn’t force it onto his greatest enemy and Lelouch had no reason or desire to take it. Immortality was not a part of Lelouch’s end-game strategy.

Also if Lelouch is dead ,how do you explain all those things that happened (Nunally seeing his memories etc.) and besides all that, why did they go out of their way to conceal the driver ?

Firstly, I don’t have to explain it. I’m not the writer of the show. It’s Geass, half of the show never made sense in the first place. Not all of the pieces are going to fit neatly into place as I’ve already noted the various open plot threads in my FIRST reply to this blog entry.

Secondly, Nunnally’s “ability” to see memories wasn’t limited to Lelouch. Nunnally has been able to tell whether or not people have lied to her by touching their hands for quite a few episodes now. The writers never explain how or why she can do that. AGAIN as I’ve already noted in my first post.

Her “seeing” Lelouch’s memories is not related to the code. At all. That’s just people grasping at straws. Most of the time when someone came into contact with a code (Anya, Suzaku, etc) they were momentarily stunned and had no memory or recollection of the moments immediately following the contact. This was not the case with Nunnally as she continued to bawl her eyes out and press herself into her dead Onii-sama’s chest.

Hell, it could have been a random old guy,but it wasn’t.
There’s no evidence to support that the cart driver is Lelouch.
It’s simply a delusional fantasy from fanboys who do not want to let go.
The cart driver does not have Lelouch’s Geass eyes or any other distinct features attributable to Lelouch. He also does not possess a Code and that’s the only way Lelouch would’ve been able to survive being impaled by a sword and bleeding to death in front of a crowd of people, including his own sister.

You are free to believe whatever you want, but you are standing on the same ground as us.From a neutral position, it could be either way.

I’m pretty sure they showed him on the floor bleeding to death. No one who has gone through that experience (Shirley, Diethard, etc) has survived this. Furthermore, they haven’t conclusively showed Lelouch reviving. This is speculation on the fans’ part due to the last 10 seconds of the show.

The entire basis for people even speculating Lelouch surviving is because C.C. tilts her head towards the sky a few degrees and utters a two-word Sentence.

There’s other websites with good arguments about the Charles code thing.

Why, why did it end. Well was ok ending I guess but fuck you Sunrise now we have to buy that stupid DvD and soon code geass doujins will stop noooo!!!!!!!! Well w.e. Can’t wait till series post.

I have to admit this was one of my favorite anime endings. This story was such an emotional roller coaster. At times I absolutely hated Lelouche and other times I was saying to myself “what a crafty bastard this guy is!”

The one thing that I did find completely unforgivable was bringing back Guilford…. I mean c’mon!!! The guy was disintegrated! I can kinda see Schneizel not killing his own sister and just aiming to disable her but Guilford?! WTF?!

*sigh* now that I have that out of my system lets get on to this Lelouch Alive or dead business.

I’ve probably watched the ending about 5 times now and analyzed it several times and between the telepathic memory transfer to nunnaly, Orange-Kun’s grinning reactions and C.C.’s final words I think it’s pretty obvious that Lelouch is alive.

I also think it’s pretty obvious that C.C. gave lelouch her code so that he could pull it off. Because if you go back to the previous episode she told him to make sure he upholds his promise to have her “die with a smile”.

I think that right before the parade, after all the plans for his assasination were made, he had C.C. transfer her code to him. Then afterwards he notified Jeramiah of his immortal condition and plans to be with C.C. This is why I think Jeremiah was always smiling when Suzaku assasinated Lelouch as Zero…. he knew that Lelouch wasn’t going to die at that point.

From a logistical standpoint it makes sense as well because Jeremiah would be the only one that would easily be able to wisk Lelouch’s body away after the assasination so that he could reunite with C.C.

Based upon Suzaku’s teary eyed reactions and Nunnally bawling her eyes out I don’t think either of them knew of his immortality. And he pretty much just had to play dead long enough to get out of site with the help of Jeremiah

I do think that they hinted at lelouch’s fate a little vuagely because if you didn’t put the pieces together you wouldn’t have gotten it.

What I think would have been the best and most dramatic way they could have done it would be to have C.C.’s hair blow away from her forehead to reveal that her code is gone right after she says “Eh Lelouch?”

That would have been fairly amazing… but sadly they didn’t… oh well.

Like CJ, I am against character resuscitation. My contention with the ‘Lelouch is alive’ theory is not rooted in fact but in preference. I’ve always thought that life only has meaning if you die, and eternal life is always a cheapening of this. That, and it makes the final scene just that much worse.

The REAL question is, what did Gendo say to Ritsuko before he killed her?

P.S. Halycon is absolutely correct about Nunally not getting stunned, and about her longstanding hand holding abilities.