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		<title>By: Calawain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calawain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chikako

The title of the song is &quot;If I Were A Bird&quot; off the first R2 OST.  However, the version on that released CD has no lyrics, just the music.  Maybe on the second R2 OST they will have the lyrical version.</description>
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<p>The title of the song is &#8220;If I Were A Bird&#8221; off the first R2 OST.  However, the version on that released CD has no lyrics, just the music.  Maybe on the second R2 OST they will have the lyrical version.</p>
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		<title>By: chiKaKo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone know the title of soundtrack that played in this Code Geass R2 ep.19 (start at 18:45, &amp; end at 20:25)??

the soundtrack -&gt; slow girl voice with music box.

plz help me..
i need the title n the singer of that music, so i can download it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone know the title of soundtrack that played in this Code Geass R2 ep.19 (start at 18:45, &amp; end at 20:25)??</p>
<p>the soundtrack -&gt; slow girl voice with music box.</p>
<p>plz help me..<br />
i need the title n the singer of that music, so i can download it..</p>
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		<title>By: John Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Zero can now focus only on his goal.  But, one little problem...  The primary antagonist is immortal.  Lelouch has to attain complete mastery of his Geass to kill daddy dearest.  So, it&#039;s one or the other.  Now going to Hell side by side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Zero can now focus only on his goal.  But, one little problem&#8230;  The primary antagonist is immortal.  Lelouch has to attain complete mastery of his Geass to kill daddy dearest.  So, it&#8217;s one or the other.  Now going to Hell side by side.</p>
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		<title>By: Nec0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nec0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said,guys.I shall say your comment could probably be true.</description>
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		<title>By: Neco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said,guys.I shall say some of your comments could probably be true.</description>
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		<title>By: jOsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jOsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i think you&#039;re all missing a few thing from the episode that took me by suprise well to start off with wat shockd  me most was the betrayal of diethart the guy was originally all for zero conquring the world!!!! UNTIL that moment but i was in tears of laughter when rolo saved lelu Diethart was having to eat his words.

But seriously although u might not buy it, wat rolo did was courages like seriously watta machine did u see that geass he was popping!!!!! he was in a Guren based on the perfect defense n he was destroying knightmares from everywhere  and even ended up saving lelu like we&#039;ve all hated Rolo atleast once but ive gotta say he pulled through this episode RIP ROlo.......

lelu played it ko0l in the end, we all know that he isnt the 1 to drop an opportunity, and if he is going to b dining in hell so0on theres no doubt that the emperors coming with him its all about how its gunna happen!!!!! 

In saying that ive got 2 say Kallen has 2 stay on his side shes simply a freak wen it comes to combat i don&#039;t know wat zero would do without her n it wouldnt suprise me if diehart came bak 2 cause i simply wasnt convinced with his performance trading bak to britannia...

Now suzaku is of the chain i think his characters going to turn into the knight of rounds that died in this episode the vampire dude. suzaku is just gunna be seeking blood but whos now that the black knights are goooone???????or are they?????

But seriously countn down for the next ep cant wait</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i think you&#8217;re all missing a few thing from the episode that took me by suprise well to start off with wat shockd  me most was the betrayal of diethart the guy was originally all for zero conquring the world!!!! UNTIL that moment but i was in tears of laughter when rolo saved lelu Diethart was having to eat his words.</p>
<p>But seriously although u might not buy it, wat rolo did was courages like seriously watta machine did u see that geass he was popping!!!!! he was in a Guren based on the perfect defense n he was destroying knightmares from everywhere  and even ended up saving lelu like we&#8217;ve all hated Rolo atleast once but ive gotta say he pulled through this episode RIP ROlo&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>lelu played it ko0l in the end, we all know that he isnt the 1 to drop an opportunity, and if he is going to b dining in hell so0on theres no doubt that the emperors coming with him its all about how its gunna happen!!!!! </p>
<p>In saying that ive got 2 say Kallen has 2 stay on his side shes simply a freak wen it comes to combat i don&#8217;t know wat zero would do without her n it wouldnt suprise me if diehart came bak 2 cause i simply wasnt convinced with his performance trading bak to britannia&#8230;</p>
<p>Now suzaku is of the chain i think his characters going to turn into the knight of rounds that died in this episode the vampire dude. suzaku is just gunna be seeking blood but whos now that the black knights are goooone???????or are they?????</p>
<p>But seriously countn down for the next ep cant wait</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kaioshin and Calawain
Just because Lulu lost everything doesn&#039;t make him any less of a Marty Stu, the whole episode was meant for us to feel sorry for him to add some more tragedy to his character. Let&#039;s be honest here a tragic past is terribly cliched and overused. More over Lulu seems to be experiencing what the teenage demographic experiences or in my opinion thinks that they have experienced. Lulu had super powers of sorts when the number of super villains is rather limited. Lulu has made other characters irrelevant, Todou was billed as a leader type as was Li, but in the end they ended up as just more muscle rather than really contribute to any sort of plan. Using the TV tropes as the standard Lulu is Darker and Edgier, with attached tragic, past, and uses his tragic past for some good old brooding and angsting. Sure Lulu has some odd traits being that he is a weakling, but because of that he is more like the image of the average otaku would like to be in Japan. He&#039;s physically weak, but a genius, he has muck that drives women crazy, has powers that are pretty OP, benefits from many contrived coincidences in that his magic button seems to be keyed to many different things, and he is guilty of ass pulls from his newer &quot;fuck wit teh ground tricks.&quot; Since this is anime more often or not sis-con is viewed a s something positive and no matter what evil Lulu has participated in it is always some how justified and made to be sympathetic. 

For the most part Lulu has been this series Marty Stu, perhaps his time has ended, but in Code Geass nothing is ever certain and Lulu has won back the Black Knights before, he has time to do it again. Since the question is no longer if Lulu will save the day, but rather what trick is he going to pull out now to save his ass; we are at least with hitting the outlying areas of God Mode Sue Territory. Whether or not Lulu can pull out of Marty Stu territory remains to be seen but until we get confirmation that the realignment is permanent there is a chance that the status quo might return. 

Lulu is still the holder of a super power (ala a Marvel Super Hero) in a world where there is one left and there weren&#039;t that many to begin with. Lulu has not lost everything, he still has Kallen&#039;s loyalty (remember guys separation has not caused Kallen to reject Lulu before id doubt that this separation will be different), Orange-kun, his geass, Kaguya might still want to be his waifu (his one year absence didn&#039;t adversely affect her love then I doubt it will now), Li and his cronies might still fight for Zero, and he is still C2&#039;s rightful master. So Lulu still has some assets left. Lulu just lost is old power base he still has the Chinese to order around, and its not like Lulu couldn&#039;t win with the Chinese mooks.

Schniezel lacks superpowers and hasn&#039;t had everything go his way, Euphie&#039;s massacre, and the second coming of Emperor Wakamoto were not anticipated. What Schniezel is in addition to being an Iago-lite is a politician he didn&#039;t get the Black Knights to join him he only cut them a deal to get what he wanted and give them what they wanted most, if her were a Marty Stu the Black Knights would be swearing their loyalty to him. It wasn&#039;t exactly an ass pull since all that really mattered to most of them was getting Japan back. 

Besides its not like all Britannians are jerks, after all both Nunnally and Euphie were working for the Japanese the whole time, so maybe Brtiannians are capable of honoring their promises. Lulu can&#039;t be trusted but that Schniezel fellow was trusted by both Euphie and Nunnally, so he can&#039;t be all bad right? The EU was allowed to keep some of their territory after they surrendered and they still hold the UK and the Ukraine. Overall Schneizel seems to be somewhat trust worthy and is certainly more trust worthy than Lulu who lied until the end. So in the end it wasn&#039;t a total ass pull, its not Schniezel&#039;s fault that the Black Knights were idiots, but he did have some convincing credentials. 

We don&#039;t trust him, but given his actions thus far he does seem most reasonable and is at least capable of honoring treaties. The EU is still there and Schniezel was supporting the Japanese SAR, so Schniezel wasn&#039;t using hax (at least there was some ground work laid to justify the image of Schniezel the Statesman) he was being a slimy politician, after all I am sure we are all aware of politicians who can get away with anything and seem to have voters in the palm of their hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kaioshin and Calawain<br />
Just because Lulu lost everything doesn&#8217;t make him any less of a Marty Stu, the whole episode was meant for us to feel sorry for him to add some more tragedy to his character. Let&#8217;s be honest here a tragic past is terribly cliched and overused. More over Lulu seems to be experiencing what the teenage demographic experiences or in my opinion thinks that they have experienced. Lulu had super powers of sorts when the number of super villains is rather limited. Lulu has made other characters irrelevant, Todou was billed as a leader type as was Li, but in the end they ended up as just more muscle rather than really contribute to any sort of plan. Using the TV tropes as the standard Lulu is Darker and Edgier, with attached tragic, past, and uses his tragic past for some good old brooding and angsting. Sure Lulu has some odd traits being that he is a weakling, but because of that he is more like the image of the average otaku would like to be in Japan. He&#8217;s physically weak, but a genius, he has muck that drives women crazy, has powers that are pretty OP, benefits from many contrived coincidences in that his magic button seems to be keyed to many different things, and he is guilty of ass pulls from his newer &#8220;fuck wit teh ground tricks.&#8221; Since this is anime more often or not sis-con is viewed a s something positive and no matter what evil Lulu has participated in it is always some how justified and made to be sympathetic. </p>
<p>For the most part Lulu has been this series Marty Stu, perhaps his time has ended, but in Code Geass nothing is ever certain and Lulu has won back the Black Knights before, he has time to do it again. Since the question is no longer if Lulu will save the day, but rather what trick is he going to pull out now to save his ass; we are at least with hitting the outlying areas of God Mode Sue Territory. Whether or not Lulu can pull out of Marty Stu territory remains to be seen but until we get confirmation that the realignment is permanent there is a chance that the status quo might return. </p>
<p>Lulu is still the holder of a super power (ala a Marvel Super Hero) in a world where there is one left and there weren&#8217;t that many to begin with. Lulu has not lost everything, he still has Kallen&#8217;s loyalty (remember guys separation has not caused Kallen to reject Lulu before id doubt that this separation will be different), Orange-kun, his geass, Kaguya might still want to be his waifu (his one year absence didn&#8217;t adversely affect her love then I doubt it will now), Li and his cronies might still fight for Zero, and he is still C2&#8217;s rightful master. So Lulu still has some assets left. Lulu just lost is old power base he still has the Chinese to order around, and its not like Lulu couldn&#8217;t win with the Chinese mooks.</p>
<p>Schniezel lacks superpowers and hasn&#8217;t had everything go his way, Euphie&#8217;s massacre, and the second coming of Emperor Wakamoto were not anticipated. What Schniezel is in addition to being an Iago-lite is a politician he didn&#8217;t get the Black Knights to join him he only cut them a deal to get what he wanted and give them what they wanted most, if her were a Marty Stu the Black Knights would be swearing their loyalty to him. It wasn&#8217;t exactly an ass pull since all that really mattered to most of them was getting Japan back. </p>
<p>Besides its not like all Britannians are jerks, after all both Nunnally and Euphie were working for the Japanese the whole time, so maybe Brtiannians are capable of honoring their promises. Lulu can&#8217;t be trusted but that Schniezel fellow was trusted by both Euphie and Nunnally, so he can&#8217;t be all bad right? The EU was allowed to keep some of their territory after they surrendered and they still hold the UK and the Ukraine. Overall Schneizel seems to be somewhat trust worthy and is certainly more trust worthy than Lulu who lied until the end. So in the end it wasn&#8217;t a total ass pull, its not Schniezel&#8217;s fault that the Black Knights were idiots, but he did have some convincing credentials. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t trust him, but given his actions thus far he does seem most reasonable and is at least capable of honoring treaties. The EU is still there and Schniezel was supporting the Japanese SAR, so Schniezel wasn&#8217;t using hax (at least there was some ground work laid to justify the image of Schniezel the Statesman) he was being a slimy politician, after all I am sure we are all aware of politicians who can get away with anything and seem to have voters in the palm of their hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Miran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zentari

The Britannians have a superweapon that their commander failed to tell them about. Said commander is obviously completely off his rocker and basically ordered them to die for his personal agenda. Along comes the enemy, who&#039;s willing to negotiate to give them what they want. They pick the lesser of two evils and get out when they can, because regardless of whether FLEIA is effective against their super mecha, if Schneizel wanted to bomb Japan into the dirt he could, and Japan is what they&#039;re fighting for.

Zero has proven himself to be neither a competent commander nor to have the Black Knights&#039; best interests at heart. The BK are basically stuck between a rock and a hard place and took the best option they had.

Schneizel may not be the bastion of trustworthiness, but the entire Black Knight arc has been building up to this because Zero is not willing to be honest with them either, and when you spend most of your time telling your troops &quot;don&#039;t question just do as I say&quot; and those troops are idealistic terrorist freedom fighters rather than professional military, that only works as long as you can produce results.</description>
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<p>The Britannians have a superweapon that their commander failed to tell them about. Said commander is obviously completely off his rocker and basically ordered them to die for his personal agenda. Along comes the enemy, who&#8217;s willing to negotiate to give them what they want. They pick the lesser of two evils and get out when they can, because regardless of whether FLEIA is effective against their super mecha, if Schneizel wanted to bomb Japan into the dirt he could, and Japan is what they&#8217;re fighting for.</p>
<p>Zero has proven himself to be neither a competent commander nor to have the Black Knights&#8217; best interests at heart. The BK are basically stuck between a rock and a hard place and took the best option they had.</p>
<p>Schneizel may not be the bastion of trustworthiness, but the entire Black Knight arc has been building up to this because Zero is not willing to be honest with them either, and when you spend most of your time telling your troops &#8220;don&#8217;t question just do as I say&#8221; and those troops are idealistic terrorist freedom fighters rather than professional military, that only works as long as you can produce results.</p>
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		<title>By: DeCulture</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeCulture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>0_o Huh!?</description>
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		<title>By: lilu</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last scene in the opening is changed in to the night and Lulu showing his Geass in the previous  opening Lulu in that scene lulu is in the day and Geass desappairs.</description>
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		<title>By: lilu</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gaiwan

That tag on his shirt means that he works for britannia</description>
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<p>That tag on his shirt means that he works for britannia</p>
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		<title>By: Gawain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gawain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey maybe Gino is working for Ashford, you could see the tag on his shirt/ jacket at EP 18 when he is visiting Kallen.</description>
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		<title>By: Calawain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calawain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually have to agree with Kaoishin, as scary as that is.  I don&#039;t see how in any way Lulu is a &quot;Marty Stu,&quot; I mean the guy has lost &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt;.  What girls does he have left?  C.C., Nunally, Shirley, and to him Kallen and Kaguya too, all gone.  He has no organization, no followers, not even a yaoi bait bro-con otoutou.  The guy is also beaten soundly by Schniezel, and everybody hates him now.  Marty/Mary Sue&#039;s are characterized by everyone loving them and always winning, which is certainly not the case following this episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have to agree with Kaoishin, as scary as that is.  I don&#8217;t see how in any way Lulu is a &#8220;Marty Stu,&#8221; I mean the guy has lost <em>everything</em>.  What girls does he have left?  C.C., Nunally, Shirley, and to him Kallen and Kaguya too, all gone.  He has no organization, no followers, not even a yaoi bait bro-con otoutou.  The guy is also beaten soundly by Schniezel, and everybody hates him now.  Marty/Mary Sue&#8217;s are characterized by everyone loving them and always winning, which is certainly not the case following this episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaioshin Sama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaioshin Sama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Crusader:  

&quot;Ougi bailed out Zero because he was he hardly trusted him since meeting Chigusa, since he wanted to believe so badly in the Special Administrative Region learning the Zero was the one who wrecked it was not gong to sit well. Again all Villetta and Schneizel had to do was feed his suspicions.&quot;

Bingo!

&quot;Schneizel is basically Iago-lite we are not sure why people trust him, but nevertheless they do and never see the knife coming. I hope that Lulu will turn out to be the Othello and when all has come to pass and Schneizel is dragged off, I hope he gets to laugh at the sheer amount of damage he has done to every one and how many people he has driven to their doom. Given that Lulu is the savior there has to be a real devil to test him. If anything Lulu is the Marty Stu, he’s the protagonist, gets all the girls, gets a lot of power, and plays by his own rules, in short the typical teenage power fantasy.&quot;

And yet what does Lelouch have now.  A Gary Stu doesn&#039;t just end up losing everything like that because of his own actions.  That shows character flaw and weakness.  A proper Gary Stu is perfect in every way and is never outwitted or proven to have any shortcomings by somebody else.  Right now Schneizel is the guy.  Maybe Lelouch used to be the guy, but he&#039;s definitely not the guy right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Crusader:  </p>
<p>&#8220;Ougi bailed out Zero because he was he hardly trusted him since meeting Chigusa, since he wanted to believe so badly in the Special Administrative Region learning the Zero was the one who wrecked it was not gong to sit well. Again all Villetta and Schneizel had to do was feed his suspicions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bingo!</p>
<p>&#8220;Schneizel is basically Iago-lite we are not sure why people trust him, but nevertheless they do and never see the knife coming. I hope that Lulu will turn out to be the Othello and when all has come to pass and Schneizel is dragged off, I hope he gets to laugh at the sheer amount of damage he has done to every one and how many people he has driven to their doom. Given that Lulu is the savior there has to be a real devil to test him. If anything Lulu is the Marty Stu, he’s the protagonist, gets all the girls, gets a lot of power, and plays by his own rules, in short the typical teenage power fantasy.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yet what does Lelouch have now.  A Gary Stu doesn&#8217;t just end up losing everything like that because of his own actions.  That shows character flaw and weakness.  A proper Gary Stu is perfect in every way and is never outwitted or proven to have any shortcomings by somebody else.  Right now Schneizel is the guy.  Maybe Lelouch used to be the guy, but he&#8217;s definitely not the guy right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/08/17/code-geass-r2-episode-19-betrayal/comment-page-2/#comment-261995</link>
		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@cj
The Black Nights were already suspicious of Zero and wary of his new buddies Rolo and Orange-kun. All Schneizel did was feed their suspicions and let them think the worst. Technically Schneizel was telling the truth Lulku did ignore the warnings about their new weapon and all those people were geassed. Because it was so alien to them they didn&#039;t know what to think anymore, since their trust was never absolute it was a simple matter for Schneizel to appeal to their paranoia and have them reject Zero because they are no longer sure if they actually signed up on their own. Finding out that some of their old JLF comrades were among Zero&#039;s victims wa a masterful play. Their comrades in the JLF were their buddies they knew them longer than they had known Zero they shared the difficulties of the struggle. They served the JLF of their own free will that they are certain, but since Lulu might have been geassing them all along and has killed Japanese to further his goals, all of a sudden the picture they see is a conflict between two princes in a power struggle where their lives and the lives of those they claim to be protecting are irrelevant. 

@Kaioshin
Again with the insults I see.

Ougi bailed out Zero because he was he hardly trusted him since meeting Chigusa, since he wanted to believe so badly in the Special Administrative Region learning the Zero was the one who wrecked it was not gong to sit well. Again all Villetta and Schneizel had to do was feed his suspicions.

Taniguchi is not going to take Tomino&#039;s crown as king of &quot;Kill &#039;em All,&quot; unless this turns out like Victory Gundam and the Black Knights become an uglier version of the Shrike Team. King Tomino is not dead, and will be the reigning monarch for a very long time. A Great King does not seek to be king he has the crown thrusted upon him. After all it was the fans who crowned him. Thus for your high treason of trying to help this Taniguchi fellow usurp Tomino&#039;s throne and steal his crown you ought to be punished... I suggest you beg Tomino the High King of Kill &#039;em all for forgiveness. Yazan is standing by to violate you. :P

Schneizel is basically Iago-lite we are not sure why people trust him, but nevertheless they do and never see the knife coming. I hope that Lulu will turn out to be the Othello and when all has come to pass and Schneizel is dragged off, I hope he gets to laugh at the sheer amount of damage he has done to every one and how many people he has driven to their doom. Given that Lulu is the savior there has to be a real devil to test him. If anything Lulu is the Marty Stu, he&#039;s the protagonist, gets all the girls, gets a lot of power, and plays by his own rules, in short the typical teenage power fantasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cj<br />
The Black Nights were already suspicious of Zero and wary of his new buddies Rolo and Orange-kun. All Schneizel did was feed their suspicions and let them think the worst. Technically Schneizel was telling the truth Lulku did ignore the warnings about their new weapon and all those people were geassed. Because it was so alien to them they didn&#8217;t know what to think anymore, since their trust was never absolute it was a simple matter for Schneizel to appeal to their paranoia and have them reject Zero because they are no longer sure if they actually signed up on their own. Finding out that some of their old JLF comrades were among Zero&#8217;s victims wa a masterful play. Their comrades in the JLF were their buddies they knew them longer than they had known Zero they shared the difficulties of the struggle. They served the JLF of their own free will that they are certain, but since Lulu might have been geassing them all along and has killed Japanese to further his goals, all of a sudden the picture they see is a conflict between two princes in a power struggle where their lives and the lives of those they claim to be protecting are irrelevant. </p>
<p>@Kaioshin<br />
Again with the insults I see.</p>
<p>Ougi bailed out Zero because he was he hardly trusted him since meeting Chigusa, since he wanted to believe so badly in the Special Administrative Region learning the Zero was the one who wrecked it was not gong to sit well. Again all Villetta and Schneizel had to do was feed his suspicions.</p>
<p>Taniguchi is not going to take Tomino&#8217;s crown as king of &#8220;Kill &#8216;em All,&#8221; unless this turns out like Victory Gundam and the Black Knights become an uglier version of the Shrike Team. King Tomino is not dead, and will be the reigning monarch for a very long time. A Great King does not seek to be king he has the crown thrusted upon him. After all it was the fans who crowned him. Thus for your high treason of trying to help this Taniguchi fellow usurp Tomino&#8217;s throne and steal his crown you ought to be punished&#8230; I suggest you beg Tomino the High King of Kill &#8216;em all for forgiveness. Yazan is standing by to violate you. <img src='http://that.animeblogger.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Schneizel is basically Iago-lite we are not sure why people trust him, but nevertheless they do and never see the knife coming. I hope that Lulu will turn out to be the Othello and when all has come to pass and Schneizel is dragged off, I hope he gets to laugh at the sheer amount of damage he has done to every one and how many people he has driven to their doom. Given that Lulu is the savior there has to be a real devil to test him. If anything Lulu is the Marty Stu, he&#8217;s the protagonist, gets all the girls, gets a lot of power, and plays by his own rules, in short the typical teenage power fantasy.</p>
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