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1. cici August 10th, 2008 4:56 pm

   Wait, so this is how Nunally dies? A bit anti-dramatic than what I expected.

2. Halcyon August 10th, 2008 5:12 pm

   This was my favorite episode of Geass. It got back to what I love about this series, twists, turns and ass-kicking action.

   The irony of a Japanese man controlled by a Western Power dropping a WMD on a Japanese City on the anniversary of a Western Power dropping a WMD on a Japanese City is pretty damn ballsy move by Sunrise (For those of you that don’t know Aug 9th was the day the Americans dropped the bomb on Nagasaki). Another ironic twist is that now Suzaku has killed more people in 1 episode than Lelouch has in 2 full seasons. Back in Episode 8, Lelouch charged Suzaku with saving the people in Japan he left behind when he went into exile. Instead, Suzaku kills off millions of both Japanese and Britannians.

   Way to go Suzaku.

   Wow! Fucking useless Ougi. He may bring people together by being a total wet noodle but he is useless in a real fight. He should know the battle plans and he’s experienced in fighting, he’s just nearly as useless as Tamaki.

   God, this cannot be MORE true. You’d think Ougi would’ve learned SOMETHING about strategy or combat after being Lelouch’s 2nd in command for almost 2 years. He’s so incompetent.

   
   Aaaaand another geass mindfuck that we have no explanation for -_- I want to know already dammit! Anya needs some serious geass canceling!

   If you remember, the last Geass spasm Anya had was when she came into contact with C2. In fact, all of the Geass mindspasms have been when people (Suzaku, Anya, etc) have come into contact with C2. Now that Nunnally’s out of the picture, does this lend more credibility to the theory that Anya might be Lelouch’s REAL sister? Or that Nunnally may be a clone of Charles? IT should be interesting now.

   The Emperor arrives, but Schniezel makes a sugguestion that the Emperor doesn’t really care about this battle, doesn’t care about today or reality. That means he cares about the supernatural stuff, like the World of C, so perhaps he’s going to Kaminejima in his new super flying fortress thingy.

   I don’t think the Emperor cares about the specific battle. In the last episode he was shown keeping tabs on the Sword of Akashas spread out throughout the world. It looks like he’s going to try and connect them to “slay the Gods”. The War between Britannia and Japan is just a distraction to him. In any event, Charles seems more than comfortable with letting Schneizel and Lelouch battle it out to be his true successor!

   
   Ugh, this doesn’t exactly bode well, although I don’t really know what some grunt whose name I didn’t even remember would have. Asahina has bee stupidly trying to rebel against Zero for a long time, and for what purpose?

   Yeah that was cheesy as hell. Some dude we’ve never seen before has uncovered a deep dark secret about Lelouch that confirms Asahina’s suspicions? How? Deus ex Machina, anyone?

   Does he think anyone else can lead the Japanese to independence? Toudou failed, Ougi failed, who else can do it? Asahina himself? Hah, fat chance. Fellow’s probably dead now though…

   Also true fact! Asahina’s been undermining Zero/Lelouch since Day One. I’m glad he’s gone. There’s no way he survived that bombing.

   It would really be irritating if this was the way Nunally died. People were predicting death by Suzaku’s geass for Nunally since the episode Lelouch put it on him, it’s way too obvious and forced irony. However, as I said before nobody in a Sunrise show is dead until you see the body, and even then there are exceptions. Nunally could have very well been ported off to the World of C or some supernatural crap, or a huge list of other plot twists that could save her and the others.

   I doubt she’s coming back to life in a ’surprise twist’. Nunnally has only ever held Zero/Lelouch back. Now that she’s gone, Lelouch can cut loose and go all out against Britannia/Schneizel/Charles/Suzaku. If Lelouch wasn’t worried about Nunnally to begin with, they could’ve taken the Government Center with relative ease. Nunnally serves to further Lelouch’s development/descent better as a casualty of Britannia than as a hostage.

   Out of that list, those that looked the most dead and have the least reason to come back are Guilford and Asahina. Miss Rohmeier? Nobody really cares about her so dead is good. Sayoko and Millay have a bit more plot armor then those two, and of course Nunally is a hugely central character to the show. To me it seems kind of like a weak attempt to get an enraged/emo/shit-faced killer Lelouch to come out and cause problems.

   I don’t think anyone who was involved in the bright light is coming back. Milly might have escaped, since she was last seen running away from the epicenter of combat but the others, considering the destructive power of the implosion bomb, and what little screen time they had this season seem pretty dead and gone.

   Overall, a pretty powerful episode and one that will serve as a definite turning point in the series. The cast is inordinately large and was in desperate need of a culling, and this episode provided the perfect opportunity to do so. Aside from the aforementioned nuke deaths, combat claimed Luciano and some Black Knights grunt that was Asahina’s buddy. Tamaki lives though, he appears in the previews for the next episode unfortunately.

   YES YES YES. BESTO EPISODE EVER! Best scene was Kallen FACERAPING the shit out of Luciano in her brand new Gurren Seiten 8 Elements. She single-handedly owned the Valkyrie Squad, several Gareth units and TWO Knight of Rounds.

   I can’t wait to see what’s going to happen to Rolo in the next episode. I’m also curious to see what’s going to happen with Cornelia, now that her other favorite sister was nuked by her own (former) knight. Is she going back to Schneizel? Will she rebel against Charles? I also want to see how this will affect Lelouch’s inner circle.

   Lelouch is ready to go on the warpath, finally. Geass is finally kicking into high gear. STRAP IN LADS.

3. XXX August 10th, 2008 5:20 pm

   The air date is actually August 10, you know.

   But still, yes, it’s close enough to that date, so the point is only slightly different in that it’s not happening ON the anniversary itself.

   The guy whose name I don’t even remember either told Asahina about what happened back in Turn 14, most likely, since it’s the same guy we saw back then (duh!). He also appeared briefly in another episode after that, in 15 or 16, and Asahina was questioning him before Rolo interrupted. So nope…there was some foreshadowing for this. Give Sunrise some credit, even for the cheese. The guy was unimportant, but he had been there for a while, with his forgettable name and all.

   The acronyms are just standard issue Engrish (sic).

   And Orange is too awesome…but never died either. In fact, they actually bothered to go out of their way and show that he didn’t die, way back in episode 10 or 11 of season one. He was already too popular, so it’s not like 2ch or what not resurrected him in a week. He had ejected even.

4. flou August 10th, 2008 5:24 pm

   Random note: The episode was originally supposed to air on August 3rd, but was bumped up because of the earthquakes in China. Also, the scripts for the series were not finalized in April, so it wasn’t like they were gunning for an air date of August 10th for the episode with FLEIA.

5. Haesslich August 10th, 2008 5:26 pm

   Here’s the fun part – Suzaku could have been un-Geassed during his fight with Orange-kun; they were within range of it, per the first time we saw it used (Shirley was a block or two away). If Lulu had asked Jeremiah to do it, Freia may not have been used. OOPS.

6. jack August 10th, 2008 5:51 pm

   @Halcyon

   “Back in Episode 8, Lelouch charged Suzaku with saving the people in Japan he left behind when he went into exile. Instead, Suzaku kills off millions of both Japanese and Britannians.

   Way to go Suzaku.”

   Back in Episode 8, Suzaku charged Lelouch with saving the one million Japanese he was taking with him into exile. Instead, he’s using them as a (he thinks) completely loyal personal guard in his effort to conquer the world so he can make things exactly the way he thinks they should be.

   Way to go Lelouch. Lulu picked the venue and the game. On his head be it all.

   @Haesslich

   And ungeased Guliford in the bargain. Bad bargain for Lelouch, I’m thinking.

7. Calawain August 10th, 2008 5:54 pm

   @Cici

   Indeed, there was no slow motion gunshot or falling off a cliff or any setup to it. Just nuke dead, kind of lame really.

   @Halycon

   Nunally’s death does indeed open up some interesting possibilities on that front, of Anya being the real sister or clone or some such thing. But don’t doubt that Sunrise would bring back a character from the dead, they have done it time and time again. Think of all the masked characters or surprise reappearances.

   Cornelia is going to go gaga over Schniezel from what it looks from the preview. Also remember how rabu rabu she was over him last season, she apparently does not see him for what he truly is. Unfortunate, but true. Perhaps she will cooperate with him to take down the Emperor rather than with Lulu as I had thought previously.

   @XXX

   Yeah I got myself mixed up when I first wrote it, I fixed it like 15-20 minutes after I posted it. And I vaguely remember the guy you are talking about, but I just find it silly that some random grunt whose name nobody can remember will help sway the Black Knights from Lelouch.

   I was referring to his apparent death at the end of season one when he fought with C.C., not earlier than that. From what I gather he was brought back as a significant character in season 2 because of popularity from sites, especially 2ch.

   @Flou

   If they delayed an episode for Chinese earthquakes in which said episode had no earthquakes, I wouldn’t put it past them to delay an episode with a nuke dropping on Japan the day after the Nagasaki anniversary. Regardless, it’s something to point out and consider, Sunrise has made political statements in the past through their works.

   @Haesslich

   It could have, but we don’t really know the max range of the Canceler, he’s only used it in maybe a 20-30 foot radius. KMFs are very very large and the distance may be too great for him to use it, especially with the machines moving so fast.

   @Jack

   Leading soldiers in a fight to liberate their country (even if it’s not his ultimate objective it is a side effect) is different then dropping a nuke and killing 10 million of them.

8. jack August 10th, 2008 6:08 pm

   @Calawain

   Lelouch is liberating Japan in the sense that Napolean liberated Poland. He ain’t, and people that don’t buy into his cult of personality will see that mighty quick once they get access to the information on what the hell is going on there. I’m looking forward to a subcontinent sized game of good ‘ole “Smear the Queer”, and Lulu’s a bit of a swish.

   Suzaku dropped the nuke under the effects of irresistable mind-control, his conscious preference was to sooner die, he put his money where his mouth was on that, and the context was fighting tooth and nail to keep a megalomanical demagogue from getting his hands on his country and turning it into so much cannon-fodder. Also, he succeeded.

9. XXX August 10th, 2008 6:13 pm

   Calawain : I don’t think so, because that popularity bit, in all versions I had heard of until now, only referred to his not being killed by Kallen near mid-season one (and we saw him eject, so the change from the original plan had already been made).

   Not to his return in season two. C.C. survived that and Orange was already some sort of cyborg created through Geass-related experiments, so it’s not like there was much of a basis to consider him dead. I never did, and don’t see why 2ch would. But well, you’re free to think differently, of course, though it’s clear that his role was expanded because of said popularity.

   Finally…for different reasons (she is too important), I am not convinced, at all, that Nunnally is dead. I have no idea about how she survived, but this isn’t going to be the last we see or hear of her, even if not for a couple of episodes at least.

10. EvilDevil August 10th, 2008 6:36 pm

    Nunnally is dead!!! *cries*
    stupid Lulu, stupid geass!!
    i hope the black knights learn the truth and kill lulu!!!

11. Ominae August 10th, 2008 6:36 pm

    If Nuna-chan’s dead by next episode or what, then Lulu’s gonna go Raging Raven on him! XP

12. Halcyon August 10th, 2008 6:45 pm

    @jack

    Back in Episode 8, Suzaku charged Lelouch with saving the one million Japanese he was taking with him into exile. Instead, he’s using them as a (he thinks) completely loyal personal guard in his effort to conquer the world so he can make things exactly the way he thinks they should be.

    Way to go Lelouch. Lulu picked the venue and the game. On his head be it all.

    Uhh, last I checked there are still 1 Million people on that island alive and well thanks to Lelouch/Zero as opposed to the millions dead thanks to Suzaku/Freia.

    Lelouch – 1
    Suzaku – 0

    Additionally, Suzaku already knew he was Geass’d to “Live” as was evident in the last episode when Suzaku asked Lelouch why did he Geass him. If he really didn’t want to use Freia (as he alluded to in the episode), he could’ve disabled it before things got out of hand.

    @Calawain

    Nunally’s death does indeed open up some interesting possibilities on that front, of Anya being the real sister or clone or some such thing. But don’t doubt that Sunrise would bring back a character from the dead, they have done it time and time again. Think of all the masked characters or surprise reappearances.

    Ehh. I just don’t see why they would need to bring her back. From the ep summaries posted it doesn’t seem they’ll touch on that subject til Ep 23 at the earliest and even then, they should really be setting up the climax of the series. Judging from the way the first season ended, I don’t think Sunrise is going to do a “It was all a dream!11! Surprise! Everyone’s alive” ending.

    I mean, they could, but that would royally piss off the fanbase. And I much prefer the idea of Anya being Lelouch’s sister than Nunnally. Anya looks more like Marianne than Nunnally does (at least the younger version of Marianne).

    Cornelia is going to go gaga over Schniezel from what it looks from the preview. Also remember how rabu rabu she was over him last season, she apparently does not see him for what he truly is. Unfortunate, but true. Perhaps she will cooperate with him to take down the Emperor rather than with Lulu as I had thought previously.

    We’ll have to wait and see. IDK but having a blind, crippled sister being blown away by her allies/empire may sway her allegiance, even if it’s just a tiny bit.

    It is interesting that Sunrise has setup a 3way power struggle between Lelouch, Schneizel and Charles.

13. cj August 10th, 2008 6:51 pm

    1st Either Nunnally isn’t dead and somehow survived by Sayoko magical ninja skills (I didn’t know ninjas could survive atomic bomb, if this be the case it’s sad that all japanese aren’t ninjas like all Americans think)Or like many of you have said Anya is Lelouch’s real sister so Lelouch will forget all about Nunally and go rabu rabu for Anya *insert what a twist here*

    2nd Orange kun is cool and that’s the only reason he’s still in the show period. It would’ve been really easy to just drown him in the end of season 1 (c.c. can’t drown hurray for inmortality) but character support brought him back I mean what would Code geass be without OOOOOOOOOOOORAAAAANGEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    3rd Why is Nina still alive? kill the bitch already I’m sick of her
    (Also on a note of people who should be dead Tamaki? he’s a waste of screen time he’s just lucky some guy in Sunrise thinks him to be important in which case Tamaki will be the next one to kill someone soon and someone important otherwise the guy *insert random name here* who died and told Asahina the big news is more important and had like 1/6 of the screen time he’s had

    4th Calawain looks like Cornelia has escaped and has no plans to join Zero instead looking happy too see Shneizel =(

    5th Hey Crusader can you tell me what you think of Nina for some reason I don’t remember you saying she’s crazy even once, I know you’ll all rabu rabu for Britania but really even someone like you has to admit that Bitch is crazy.

    6th How the hell did Suzaku escape I mean Guren’s upgrade makes it like extra friggin fast and Lancelot was fagged up soooo I’m guessing shiny atomic light must’ve been very distracting.

    7th Wow this lelouch must be emo level to the extreme I wouldn’t be surprised if they caught him cutting his wrists next episode maybe even hanging himself *dun dun dun* of course he can’t there’s still 6 episodes left maybe 7 not sure.

14. rollchan August 10th, 2008 6:59 pm

    Lelouch is all f***ed up… hahaha… serves him right. He should’ve listened to Suzaku after all. Now look at what happened. Anyhow, I’m really surprised that Suzaku still has that Geass command to him. LIVE ON!

    crap… what about Rolo? Well, his wishes are fulfilled. Hono-Lulu is all for him now.

    UFN maybe well get doomed in the end.

    thanks for the review.
    

15. cj August 10th, 2008 7:00 pm

    I can’t believe I forgot how awsome Kallen was GOOOOO!!! KALLEN <3

16. Onizuka August 10th, 2008 7:05 pm

    well the moment i was waiting for all this time did not happen in this ep but thanx to Calawain for the link of the extended preview i know it happen next episode

    Kallen getting the improved Gurren and killing the vampire wannabe and almost killing Bombzaku making her return to the front lines awesome

    i always wondered where will Sayoko and Kaguya hime will stand on the issue of zero’s true identity getting exposed i guess this ep answers half of that sice supermeido is “supposedly” dead “fat chance” and Kaguya is still at sea somewhere my guess is the the Ootbk will keep her in the dark on this matter

    no matter how strongly i support OhgiXVilleta faction i can truly say that Ohgi is no leader and this supposedly is the guy to lead the Ootbk when they go mutiny on zero well all i can say is good luck your fates are already sealed

    things to look out for next week
    1. Kallen’s decision
    2. Bombzaku realizing what he did

17. TP August 10th, 2008 7:16 pm

    Considering the amount of “WTF?!”-ness that this Episode has generated very early, I’m surprised. (Granted, Season 1’s “WTF?!” moment came towards the end of the season, like Ep. 21[?], so I’m expecting an end to the whole Code Geass franchise here, it seems…[?])

    In regards to the potential political statement Sunrise seems to subtly deliver, I take it as a “So, what?” A lot of people had already commented that due to changes in scheduling it wasn’t as if Sunrise were deliberately trying to make a statement. Also, I’d be damned if Sunrise were to teach the audience a thing or two about pacifism.

    But I dig it. There’s a lot of cheese and vodka going on around here. No amount of emo facial contortions can reverse the fact that Zero/Lulouch made very stupid decisions, and hopefully the show ends with a massive cliffhanger to give the rest of the world big “F— Yeah!”

18. Eirias August 10th, 2008 7:18 pm

    I think this entire series has been a directed, systematic destruction of all of the things that Charles feels would hold Lelouch back. Every support system, every friend he truly cared about… gone. He is almost set to become like Charles.

    What would you think, Crusader, if Lelouch subsumes Charles’ existence as Emperor, keeper of the Hax Brittan(i)a.

19. cj August 10th, 2008 7:34 pm

    A thing I just noticed rewatching the episode when kallen’s magical fist of doom is flying around destroying everything Bradley grabs a random KNF and throws it in the way LOLZ

20. SlothMaster August 10th, 2008 7:43 pm

    Calawain, I TOLD you Rolo would want to kill Nunnaly. Unfortunately he got beat to the punch by Genocide-zaku’s Freyja … too bad … his Jesus plotarmor was nearly defeated by Kallen’s new ride ( Nina isn’t even going to be happy about it ’cause Zero is still alive. Oh well, time for an emo/betrayal episode… Betrayal is the name for the next episode, no ?
    BTW … has anybody noticed Sunrise hinting at a KallenXGino thing??? I hope I’m wrong but her expresion changes weirdly when he’s talking….

21. Narrator 1 August 10th, 2008 7:49 pm

    (note nobody is ever dead in a Sunrise show until you see the body)

    Charles di Britannia would beg to differ there.

22. Calawain August 10th, 2008 7:55 pm

    @Jack

    Huh? Napoleon took his national foreign army and invaded Poland, Lelouch is leading the Japanese to take back Japan. Then he’s just going to let them have it, he doesn’t have interest in ruling over them.

    @XXX

    To be honest I can’t say with certainty what the chain of events was since I don’t speak enough Japanese to browse 2ch. I think we can both agree that such popularity had some effect on his character, whether it was bringing him back from the dead or merely giving his character a larger role.

    @EvilDevil

    They will learn the truth, and try to capture him to sell him off to Schniezel rather than just kill him. Schniezel is paying them a visit next episode according to the previews, so that would be the most likely outcome.

    @Halcyon

    I don’t think bringing her back would piss off the fanbase, just make them roll their eyes going “oh there goes Sunrise again.” As for Cornelia, if she smartly figured out Schniezel was behind the whole thing she might gravitate toward Lulu, assuming he stabilizes his mentality after Nunally’s death.

    @CJ

    suzaku has huge plot armor not seen since the days of Kira “Jesus” Yamato. That’s why he will survive~

    @Rollchan

    Yeah but Lulu nii-san is pretty pissed off at Rollo, I don’t think it’s going to be a big happy family for the two of them.

    @Onizuka

    Uh Sayoko knows his real identity, and even revealing geass to her is unlikely to change her mind. Of course that assumes she survives the nuke, which is in doubt. Kaguya I’m still not sure about, she didn’t appear at all this episode, and we talked about how unsure we were about her allegiance last episode’s discussion.

    @TP

    I don’t predict a cliffhanger, Taniguchi already finished writing the ending, and he said no way there’s going to be a season 3. It’s done, caput, finished, so I expect a solid ending. I wouldn’t rule out extra OVAs or movies for side stuff, but the main story will come to a good conclusion.

    @Eirias

    It’s not only stuff Charles would feel holds Lelouch back, it’s anyone who knows him. I think Charles right now is much more concerned about the supernatural stuff and is done with his son, who he already got C.C.’s code from.

23. Ryuua August 10th, 2008 8:03 pm

    Oh Wtf? Whats with Suzaku firing at the government building to “Live On”? It makes no sense. ” Lets go bomb my allies instead of the giant KMFs in front of me”

24. cj August 10th, 2008 8:04 pm

    @Calawain
    True Suzaku’s plot armor is indesctructible or strong enough to get him into the last 2 episodes

    Dam it after each episode of Code Geass I just want to see the next one but that just means getting closer to the end T-T

    @Ryuua
    Lol good point how is shooting randomly in the air live on, they just had to make a way for Suzaku’s geass to cause major chaos (still don’t belive nunally’s dead though).

25. Halcyon August 10th, 2008 8:16 pm

    @Calawain

    I suspect Taniguchi will wind up trying to pull a Hideki Anno and leave Geass with some retarded open-ended conclusion that doesn’t really resolve anything and leaves the “ending” up to the viewer’s interpretation.

26. lelangir August 10th, 2008 8:26 pm

    Kallen was awesome but Orange-kun had even more awesome.

27. XXX August 10th, 2008 8:40 pm

    Calawain: Agreed then.

    Halcyon: What I’ve seen of Taniguchi’s work doesn’t support that conclusion very much.

    Maybe there will be a few subplots that won’t be resolved, but I do think the main plot, the major subplots and the fates of the main characters will get some closure and the ending won’t leave the overall story hanging.

28. westrim August 10th, 2008 10:58 pm

    Well gee, Luciano’s dead. Now that’s just a damn shame (not). But so’s Guilford, which IS a shame (Lemon-kun!). But most importantly:
    Flunkie: Mindf**k cannnon ready to fire, captain.
    Capatain: Very well, commence fire on target #1.
    Suzaku: No! Instead of dying and finally getting the hell out of the way, I must BLOW UP TOKYO!!! (as though we weren’t already expecting that).

    HAHA! As if that jerk Suzaku didn’t have enough on his chest already, now he’s committed a little mass slaughter- but no biggie, I’m sure the Euphienator would approve.

    Every time I see someone note his ‘live’ geass, I think its along the lines of “Live from New York, it’s Saturday Night!”. Which would be pretty damn funny, if he broke out into comedy skits every time it activated.

29. Eirias August 10th, 2008 11:12 pm

    Kira “Jesus” Yamato. I’d forgotten just how much I disliked him. Good times.

30. ans August 10th, 2008 11:24 pm

    Nina’s a racist because she got scared by some Elevens who were thugs when she was little. I’m pretty sure she had a flashback in the last season that showed this.

31. Omisyth August 10th, 2008 11:54 pm

    If they bring Nunally back through some supernatural crap, I’ll just be pissed off. It’s actually a great plot advancement (we’ve finally gotton away from Lulu focusing on her) and mybe now things’ll REALLY get going.

32. Miran August 11th, 2008 12:12 am

    It’s probably enough for plot advancement for all parties involved to believe that Nunnally is dead, regardless of her actual status. The non-confirmable (by anime standards) “death” by the bomb may well have saved her from Rolo (the stupidest idea Lelouch has ever had, including “hey if I ordered you to kill Japanese”).

    After Euphemia, Darlton, and Guilford, I hope the series ends with Cornelia beating Lelouch senseless with a shovel.

33. jp_zer0 August 11th, 2008 1:34 am

    “Airdate of this episode, August 10, 2008…Nagasaki a-bomb dropped, August 9, 1945″

    Ha! nice observation!

34. Ominae August 11th, 2008 2:14 am

    @ans
    - Was there? I probably didn’t notice.

    Anyway:

    Lulu: Rage! (Throws Rolo’s mobile on the ground.) Show me your rage!

35. Coaxen August 11th, 2008 2:15 am

    Zetsubou shita! Cry me a river, mutt.
    Well, if Rolo, they guy who cannot defy physics(as mentioned earlier) survived, then MAYBE our l33t ninja Sayoko and Nunnally are still alive. Just maybe.

    For the time being, let me shed a tear for the lack of Nunnally and the huge plot-assfuck for the Black Knights. They should really win, you know.

    Another think

36. C.I. August 11th, 2008 7:46 am

    I AM NINA, I DROP BOMBS LIKE HIROSHIMA?

37. cj August 11th, 2008 9:01 am

    @Calawain
    “I can’t wait until you get your new space mecha that’s shown in the OP.” I’m sorry to tell you but if you look closely at this mecha and the one in the op they’re the same it’s just that in the op it has no colors so that the viewer couldn’t tell it was going to be Orange-kun’s

    @Crusader
    I see so you do want to have little table children with Nina and create a nuclear holocaust, that would be fun because all tactics and even mecha deus ex machinima would go down the toilet the rest of the show would be Zero and whatever he will call his new army considering the black knights are about to abandon him and britania just bombing the hell out of each other with a bomb that’s worse than an atomic bomb.

38. Halcyon August 11th, 2008 10:29 am

    HAHAHAH I just checked the Geass official website and Milly’s the only one of the “victims” not listed as “missing”. Her giant rack must’ve protected her from FLEIA by absorbing the shock of the impact. LOLOLOL

    Shirley’s been permanently deleted from the correlative tho

    The only one really listed as “dead” is Luciano, Knight of 10. IDK how the Glaston Knights arent listed as “dead” when Kallen was owning the shit out of every mech in the air at that time.

    lol Poor Rivals looks so ronery being the only one at Ashford now. Maybe he can console himself with Miya.

    Still waiting on the remaining 2 female Knight of Rounds to make an appearance. Maybe with Cornelia returning to Britannia next week one of them might rear their bishoujo heads for some yuri fanservice.

39. skoll August 11th, 2008 10:30 am

    Schniezel is a cunt. What the fuck was up with that snarky smile after the Britannian headquarters building, primarily quartered by…. Britannians got vaporized.

    As another note, the FREIA detonation produced a vacuum aftereffect that was shockingly similar to the Xam’d Humanform Weapon vacuum lasers. I wonder if that kind of energy weapon suddenly got popular or something.

40. Crusader August 11th, 2008 11:58 am

    @cj
    There are no tactics in Geass, R1 had a smattering but if you consider beam spam and “I have new suit hax” as tactics then you are a tosser. Worse than the atomic bomb you say? Well shit you hardly know anything about why atomic bombs are bad. You see anything with in a certain radius dies, instantly vaporized, but those on the outskirts they get something called radiation sickness and have all sort of nasty burns, terminal illnesses, and if pregnant might get still birth or irradiated infants with all sorts of interesting new features. Nina’s little weapon killed everything nearly instantly there was not long term effects other than the crater. Hell there isn’t any fall out that is carried over distances by the wind. Nina’s weapon is a vacuum bomb it is incapable of causing the long term death that is a nuclear winter.

    So before you mouth off about it being worse do some research you beforehand otherwise you just made its sound as if a bunch of fictional characters had it worse that the poor bastards who survived the real blast. The cast is too large as it is since no one is Ali-class we need huge explosions to cull the useless.

    Such ignorance about the bomb and military principles these days is appalling to say the least don’t they teach you anything at school anymore or is it just day care and play time these days?

41. Kabitzin August 11th, 2008 12:26 pm

    But there’s no sense crying over every big mess,
    I’ll just keep on humping till I run out of desks.

    If it was up to Nina, she’d start launching FLEIA warheads all over the place so that she could feel superior to all foreigners. I am ready for Nina to fall in love again with a girl, only to find out that the girl is half-Japanese (e.g. Kallen). That or she will hump a bamboo table only to find out that the bamboo was grown in Japan ZOMG!

42. Goob August 11th, 2008 12:47 pm

    Calawain, you made a HUGE mistake.

    The Tokyo Settlement is populated mainly by Britannians, not Elevens (as evident by the fact that Area 11’s Britannian government is practically set up there), so Suzaku managed to kill millions of Britannians and maybe a good chunk of the blue collar labor force (elevens) there. There is no irony other than the sad unfortunate chain reaction that started with Lelouch geassing him to live.

    Suzaku won’t even remember nuking Tokyo.

    @Halycon
    “Uhh, last I checked there are still 1 Million people on that island alive and well thanks to Lelouch/Zero as opposed to the millions dead thanks to Suzaku/Freia.”

    Blaming Suzaku for the millions dead is RIDICULOUS. He was under the control of the geass, which practically means it’s Lelouch’s fault. Don’t make up some BS excuse that “he could have disabled it” to circumvent that. This isn’t what Sunrise wants you to think, otherwise the situation wouldn’t be full of irony and reminiscent of Lelouch geassing Euphemia. Or are you sick enough to blame Euphemia for what happened?

    This whole thing is Lelouch’s fault, though granted, if he hadn’t geassed Suzaku, he wouldn’t even be alive. So technically, it’s an incredibly unfortunate event.

43. Halcyon August 11th, 2008 1:22 pm

    @Goob

    Blaming Suzaku for the millions dead is RIDICULOUS. He was under the control of the geass, which practically means it’s Lelouch’s fault. Don’t make up some BS excuse that “he could have disabled it” to circumvent that. This isn’t what Sunrise wants you to think, otherwise the situation wouldn’t be full of irony and reminiscent of Lelouch geassing Euphemia. Or are you sick enough to blame Euphemia for what happened?

    This is very different from the incident with Euphemia. Lelouch had ACTUALLY Geass’d Euphemia to kill the Japanese. The only effect the Geass had on Suzaku was to “live on”, not to “kill millions of Japanese AND Britannians”.

    Suzaku could’ve accomplished that in one of three ways:

    1. Eject his cockpit. There was no damage shown to his cockpit, in fact, he still was able to maneuver AROUND Kallen’s Gurren and aim DIRECTLY at the Government Center. If he wanted to “live on” he should’ve aimed straight ahead at Lelouch’s forces, instead of his own.

    2. Run away! This worked fabulously in Season One when Suzaku had Lelouch at Gunpoint and Lelouch first applied the Geass. His Lancelot was rendered immobile and because of the oncoming bombardment from Britannia, what did Suzaku do to satisfy the conditions of his Geass control? He ran away.

    3. Surrender! While Lelouch is all for eliminating his threats, I don’t think Kallen would’ve fried him with her radioactive arm if he offered to surrender, considering the shape his Lancelot was in this could’ve been an effective strategy.

    The fact of the matter is Suzaku wanted to die. This is not the first time we’ve seen Suzaku try to martyr himself to atone for his past sins. Suzaku was also aware of the fact that he had been Geass’d to live. His said as much in the last episode, asking Lelouch why Lelouch Geass’d him.

    Again, he didn’t have to kill ANYONE in order to “live on”, there were alternatives to satisfy his Geass’d command other than wiping out a large chunk of his own forces and innocent civilians.

    This whole thing is Lelouch’s fault, though granted, if he hadn’t geassed Suzaku, he wouldn’t even be alive. So technically, it’s an incredibly unfortunate event.

    Lelouch didn’t pull the trigger on an atomic bomb. Again, Lelouch’s only command was for Suzaku to live. Lelouch didn’t compel Suzaku to kill. Suzaku chose that route all on his own. Suzaku knew the destructive power of the bomb beforehand. He tried to use the power of the bomb to intimidate Lelouch earlier on in the battle, only to be ignored by Lelouch as a liar and a traitor (which Suzaku is). Nina was egging Suzaku on during the entire battle to PUSH THE BUTTON!!!!! because “it can save you!!!” so that must have been in his subconscious at the time he actually fired.

    So, you can’t blame Lelouch’s “live” Geass for spurring Suzaku to kill his own people. Where’s the logic in that? “Oh, I have to live and the only way to do that is to wipe out the building I’m protecting along with the majority of my allies defending the building”.

    It’s more ironic that Suzaku has posed a greater danger to his allies than Lelouch/Zero did and that the supposed “protector” of Nunnally and the Japanese became their eventual murderor. Of course, this comes as no surprise to those of us who have known that Suzaku was a murdering scumbag from the onset of Geass, since he killed his own dad and joined the enemy of the Japanese.

44. bearzerger August 11th, 2008 1:41 pm

    Of course Suzaku has part of the blame. He knows that he’s under a Geass, so he should have fled like Lloyd told him once he realised Kallen’s superiority. Instead he wanted to commit suicide out of sheer stupidity.
    Naturally Lelouche is hardly innocent and a big part of the blame also goes to Nina and Schneizel. Those four are the ones responsible for the F-bomb. One built it, the other bought it, the next aimed the gun and the last pulled the trigger. They are all equally guilty.
    BTW did you guys see those specs of the F-Bomb? Three zones of destruction. The blast kills everything within 1500m, the slipstream pulls in everything inside of 3km and a third zone which isn’t explained further but which reaches up to 5-8km. That’s even more ridiculous than Gurren Seiten’s abilities.

45. Calawain August 11th, 2008 2:52 pm

    @Ryuua

    A weapon like that requires little aim, he just knew in order to live he had to fire it somewhere nearby to blow up all of the attackers.

    @Halcyon

    I really don’t think so, like XXX mentions, if you go to Wikipedia and look up Taniguchi and Ichiro Okouchi (they came up with the story together, and Okouchi is the head writer), you will find that the works which they had lead roles on were not left up in the air like that, or with mindfuck Anno endings.

    @Eirias

    My apologies for bringing up bad memories

    @Ans

    That’s possible, but I don’t recall it. One day the season 1 DVDs I ordered will arrive and I’ll rewatch the first season, then I may pick it out~

    @Miran

    You can join Crusader in that wish, although I’m sure his version would be much more violent and bloody.

    @Coaxen

    Do not underestimate the hax of the Shinozaki ninja clan! I hope she survives, this show needs supameido =(

    @C.I.

    I admit, I laughed.

    @CJ

    Mmmmmm they do look pretty similar. Well, I can’t wait until he goes in space and starts kicking ass, how about that? =)

    @Halcyon

    Yeah I saw that today, all the people who are shown getting nuked are listed as “missing.” Also, if you look really close at the Engrish of the FREIA status screen, it says something like step 5- Sessrumnir Sphere Reduction and Vanished (Space Transfer). So don’t be surprised if those “missing” somehow survive and are just somewhere else.

    Millay I had just guessed at because I saw her running around in Tokyo and then soon after the bomb went off. She wasn’t shown in the explosion scene though.

    @Skoll

    Schniezel is a nasty guy who smiles when he first meets you while plotting the best way to use you and get rid of you. He’s shaping up to be a harsh villain to deal with.

    @Kabitzin

    You have one twisted mind, I like it.

    @Goob

    Ummm, no I don’t think so. If you look at all of the shots in and around Tokyo through both season the area is predominately populated by Japanese rather than Brittanians. Sure, there are quite a few of them there, but they don’t move 10 million Britannians into Tokyo in just 8 years, it’s mostly Japanese.

    @Bearzerger

    I don’t think there is any one person to blame for the bomb going off either. As you mention, many different characters had their hand in it.

46. Halcyon August 11th, 2008 3:07 pm

    @Calawain

    I really don’t think so, like XXX mentions, if you go to Wikipedia and look up Taniguchi and Ichiro Okouchi (they came up with the story together, and Okouchi is the head writer), you will find that the works which they had lead roles on were not left up in the air like that, or with mindfuck Anno endings.

    I definitely wouldn’t rule it out. Primarily, because at this point the only way to bring those “missing” characters back would be through a WTF plothax involving the Sword of Akasha or Ragnarok and that would be ridiculously cheesy even for Code Geass.

    If they’ve been teleported anywhere it’s been to Planet Cybertron as Cybertron is one of the planets shown in the OP with the Geass Cult. I predict an epic battle between the Autobots and Black Knights vs Britannia and the Decepticons.

    Lelouch uses his Geass in Conjunction with the Autobot Matrix of Leadership for a wtfhax victory over Charles and Schneizel. Both sides abandon their stupid KnightMare Frames to become HeadMasters. Lelouch becomes Zero Prime and Charles becomes Charles vi Megatronnia. Schneizel merges with Starscream to become Schneizelscream.

47. cj August 11th, 2008 3:43 pm

    Dam english dubs to hell, I convinced a friend to watch code geass and he’s watching the dubs of the first season to wait for season 2 to be over (he doesn’t want to wait a week for each episode instead watch them all in a marathon) well point is that I watched the episode when C.C. killed Mao and she says “wait for me in the world of C” Now I’m too lazy too look up what she said in the japanese but if it’s the same thing that means that people who die go to the world of C? so maybe Nunally still lives and she’s just trapped there or maybe dubs suck the wolrd will have to wait untill someone is responsible enough to look it up, I’m too lazy good luck.

    @Halycon
    Lol That be unfair transformers don’t have WMD’S so nina would just nuke their asses and end of story XP unless merging with Charles and Shneizel and Lelouch also gave them their plot armor and allowed them to escape. Just like Rolo who should’ve been in Freias blast radius but his plot armor allowed him to make a sutherland fly faster than ever before DEATH TO ROLO!!!!!!!

48. jack August 11th, 2008 3:53 pm

    With the glorious deatomization of the thong-wearing meido supercommando, Code Geass is Serious Business can be put into effect allowing among other things the education of the ignorant and the making of posts that can be summerized as “is not!” in answer to “is too!”, as well as adopting tones of unwarrented beligerancy. To hell with syntax and spellchecking.

    @Calawain

    The Grand Duchy of Warsaw. The Second and Third Partitions of Poland. One suspects that fact that there can be even glimmers of good feeling for Lulu at this point is enough of the audience are about as forarmed to his ways as a Han peasent was to the Little Red Book. I blame the gumb’nint.

    In 1806 there was a popular uprising in the country that had been previously been made to cease to exist by its imperial neighbors, gaurenteed by at the time internationally recognized friend of the common man, human dignity, free nations everywhere and the concept of universal manhood sufferage to whom the Lives of Millions are So Much Shit (phrase trademarked by Napoleon Bonaparte), Napoleon Bonaparte. It brought a tear to many an eye to see the triumph of the human spirit in such form as a country rising against all odds from the the ashes and oblivion itself, but the cruel reality recognized in hindsight was their liberator was a monster solipsist possessing fathomless ambition and his only interest in their self determination was that they enthusiastically served his own ends of their own volition with the propper amount of behind the scenes tweaking and his only interest in their hapiness was their graditude made them more willing battlefodder less likely to question his will. And battles did they feed. And battles did they feed (twice for effect).

    @Halcyon

    He freaking filled out his army with them and uses the rest of them as a totally secure base of operations and manpower pool!

    Sunrise deigned to show us a man psyching himself up to die, with grit, determination, and actively trying to convince his subconscious that this was good and proper and served his best interests, that the digusting compulsion forced on him by the moral dwarf with beliefs as small and pathetic as that honor is a lie for fools and the greatest end is your own continued existence could be overcome. Euphie had delayed the Geass on her so that they could share their last moments together and indeed all he had to do was hold it off a few moments for Kallen to stop showboating and end it already. A man who goes into battle speaking of requiring moral courage as well as physical to be an effective soldier. Truely the freya was best entrusted to him, magic mindcontrol and all because with him there remained a chance it would not be used against the certainty it would be should it be left in Britannian hands or fall into Lulus. Any simple code to disable could be simply re-enabled nor could he let it out of his sight lest less morally-upright mere warriors (which is to say, every-freaking-body else there not a pudding eating earl and his lovely assistant) set their victory-blinded eyes upon it and put it into their hands. Alas he did not prevail, but at least he probably won’t take what he sees as his failure to surmount the insurmountable out on the little people that are utterly emotionally dependant on him.

    To suggest such a man would take an avenue of survival that caused the deaths of millions when magically forced to take an avenue of survival while other methods were available is ludicrous, ludicrous and dishonest that he could run from Revolutionary Guard-chan and not be cut down or survive ejection and not be blasted helpless or surrender and not be killed for the attempt indeed Lulu was gleefully during the battle spamming his forces to kill Kururugi Suzaku with steadily increasing tones of derangement that he and his sisters love would suffer no further obstacles oh how I wish I was making that up and yet I am not. Truely Halcyon your lawyerly ways had gotten the best of you and made you a soldier of The Lie, Yazatas have mercy upon you. You are also a monday morning quarterback and the Great Lombardi will curse you with visions, see if he doesn’t.

49. Halcyon August 11th, 2008 4:27 pm

    @jack

    He freaking filled out his army with them and uses the rest of them as a totally secure base of operations and manpower pool!

    Really? You’ve seen 1 Million people aboard the Ikaruga have you? Because I assure you, his “army” is not 1 Million Strong. His “Army” at best may be a couple of thousand. Lelouch does not have the resources or the command structure to mobilize one million troops on his own. Hence why he set up strategic allegiances with the Chinese Federation and the EU via the UFN.

    Sunrise deigned to show us a man psyching himself up to die, with grit, determination, and actively trying to convince his subconscious that this was good and proper and served his best interests, that the digusting compulsion forced on him by the moral dwarf with beliefs as small and pathetic as that honor is a lie for fools and the greatest end is your own continued existence could be overcome.

    This is patently false. It’s been discussed in Season One, that the entire reason for Suzaku’s “selflessness” is subconscious guilt from murdering his father. Suzaku’s “morality” is nothing more than an idealistic way for him to escape the reality of being a cold-blooded murderer.

    With this latest development, Suzaku will be unable to run from away from his sins by attempting to die vaingloriously on the battlefield. As shown on the extended preview, Suzaku will be just as emotionally broken/devastated as Lelouch which is a delicious parallel.

    Euphie had delayed the Geass on her so that they could share their last moments together and indeed all he had to do was hold it off a few moments for Kallen to stop showboating and end it already.

    Euphie had delayed Geass because deep down her true nature contradicted her Geass Order. Euphie was a pacifist and she was struggling against her Geass to the very end. Suzaku’s Geass was to “Live on”, self-preservation is a basic instinct of all animals, and he had no real true inner nature to contradict his Geass command. Hence, he took the course that he felt would fulfill his Geass command: Kill everyone else in order to live on.

    Delicious Irony? Yes, especially coming from the White Knight: Suzaku. Who, by now, has earned his Season One nickname of the “White Reaper”.

    A man who goes into battle speaking of requiring moral courage as well as physical to be an effective soldier. Truely the freya was best entrusted to him, magic mindcontrol and all because with him there remained a chance it would not be used against the certainty it would be should it be left in Britannian hands or fall into Lulus. Any simple code to disable could be simply re-enabled nor could he let it out of his sight lest less morally-upright mere warriors (which is to say, every-freaking-body else there not a pudding eating earl and his lovely assistant) set their victory-blinded eyes upon it and put it into their hands. Alas he did not prevail, but at least he probably won’t take what he sees as his failure to surmount the insurmountable out on the little people that are utterly emotionally dependant on him.

    Suzaku was not mentally prepared to handle the responsibility of handling the FLEIA. Truly, last episode he was more than ready to make-up with Lelouch until Kanon came in with the Gestapo to arrest him. It was irresponsible to send someone who is already psychologically damaged and emotionally frayed into battle against his former best friend armed with a WMD. Furthermore, even without a “cancel code”, Suzaku could’ve smashed the controls to prevent him from launching FLEIA.

    Your ability to rationalize away Suzaku’s blatant perpetration of mass murder is awe-inspiring.

    To suggest such a man would take an avenue of survival that caused the deaths of millions when magically forced to take an avenue of survival while other methods were available is ludicrous, ludicrous and dishonest that he could run from Revolutionary Guard-chan and not be cut down or survive ejection and not be blasted helpless or surrender and not be killed for the attempt indeed Lulu was gleefully during the battle spamming his forces to kill Kururugi Suzaku with steadily increasing tones of derangement that he and his sisters love would suffer no further obstacles oh how I wish I was making that up and yet I am not.

    Suzaku was not alone on the battlefield. If he wanted to withdraw(as he had been advised to earlier by Lloyd and Cecile), he could’ve requested backup from the Gareth forces, the Mordred, or the Tristan which could’ve disengaged from his battle with the Seigfreid to assist in recovering Suzaku’s cockpit (if ejecting the cockpit was his chosen alternative).

    I believe, what led Suzaku to choosing to detonate a bomb (in the direction of his own base lolnice aiming Suzaku) was Nina’s last minute advice that using the “FLEIA” would “save him”.

    But again, Lelouch’s only command was for Suzaku to live, not to murder millions of people. You can’t extrapolate a “live” command, into “kill tons of people” and lay the blame at Lelouch’s feet for HOW Suzaku chose to live, because ultimately it was a choice by Suzaku.

    Furthermore, I’m not sure why you find it so unbelievable that a man who murdered his own father in cold-blood would be able to murder others he is completely unrelated to.

    Truely Halcyon your lawyerly ways had gotten the best of you and made you a soldier of The Lie, Yazatas have mercy upon you. You are also a monday morning quarterback and the Great Lombardi will curse you with visions, see if he doesn’t.

    Here is a fact you cannot escape:

    Suzaku has now murdered (that’s right, murdered as in willfully and intentionally using a weapon of mass destruction) more innocent civilians and Britannian forces than Lelouch has in two Seasons.

    This is irrefutable. You can try to spin events all you want but ultimate responsibility lies in the man who AIMED and pulled the trigger. No matter what kind of “Nuremburg Defense” you might use it does not absolve personal responsibility on the battlefield.

    Euphie was able to resist her Geass Command (to an extent) because she found it apalling. Suzaku should have had the same fortitude, but apparently, killing millions of people wasn’t all that abhorrent to Suzaku that he, you know, might’ve struggled, just a little bit, when pulling that trigger.

50. Halcyon August 11th, 2008 4:46 pm

    @cj

    Rolo has been deathflagged since Lelouch got his memories back. There’s no way he’s going to survive to the end.

    Both V.V. and Lelouch have deathflagged Rolo in Turn 14: Geass Hunt. His plot armor is as thin as Shirley’s.

51. cj August 11th, 2008 4:53 pm

    @Halcyon
    Wow long post first of all Unfortanetely Lancelot doesn’t have an ejection seat so even if he tried to eject yeah…..

    Secondly ever since Season 1 He’s been trying to atone for his “sins” by putting himself in danger or in the edge of death. Basically he’s an emo who’s too afraid too kill himself and just looks for an alternate way to do it which is the reason for his “moral”.

    And the reason he shoots freia to “live on” is because the shiny light from the bomb would’ve distracted them long enough for him to escape, and it did let’s all look at the light and ignore the fleeing KNF) if he had tried to escape normally Guren’s speed would’ve been too much. It was his only option XP (P.S. I tried to put logic into the joke)

    I know he’s been deathflagged I just wish SPOILER::::::: That he would save lelouch (wikipedia nuff said) and die already he’s annoying NIIIIIIIII SAMA I’m going to kill nunally so I don’t have to share you NIIIIIII SAMA and so he annoy’s me

52. Halcyon August 11th, 2008 5:05 pm

    @cj

    what I’m saying is, Suzaku should’ve withdrawn when he was told to by Cecile and Lloyd and, if anything, LOL he didn’t have to point his MASSIVE BOMB at his own Government Center. If you’re going to point it at ANYBODY, point it at Lelouch at least THAT WAY, the only people who would’ve died/gotten hurt would’ve been the Black Knight enemy forces and not the civvies who were just trying to escape from the battlefield.

    Suzaku is just a suicidal moron of epic proportions.

53. cj August 11th, 2008 5:21 pm

    @Halcyon
    Yeah I get it it’s just funny if he shot the bomb for the reason I pointed out I mean you have to admit it does make for a good distraction everyone stopped doing what they where doing just to look at the shininess I understood what you were saying.

    And I agreee with you he is a suicidal moron.

54. jack August 11th, 2008 5:28 pm

    @Halcyon
    Really? You’ve seen 1 Million people aboard the Ikaruga have you? Because I assure you, his “army” is not 1 Million Strong. His “Army” at best may be a couple of thousand. Lelouch does not have the resources or the command structure to mobilize one million troops on his own. Hence why he set up strategic allegiances with the Chinese Federation and the EU via the UFN.

    To re-iterate, “He freaking filled out his army with them and uses the rest of them as a totally secure base of operations and manpower pool!”. Friend of lies that you are that you seek to make this mean he took one million people out of Zero uniforms and put them in black knight uniforms, he did exactly what I said he did, filled out his org structure and with the untold chaff that did not possess skills he desired founded a city he uses as his own private country where he is the God-King Zero.

    This is patently false. It’s been discussed in Season One, that the entire reason for Suzaku’s “selflessness” is subconscious guilt from murdering his father. Suzaku’s “morality” is nothing more than an idealistic way for him to escape the reality of being a cold-blooded murderer.
    With this latest development, Suzaku will be unable to run from away from his sins by attempting to die vaingloriously on the battlefield. As shown on the extended preview, Suzaku will be just as emotionally broken/devastated as Lelouch which is a delicious parallel.

    Indeed Suzaku’s re-invention of himself from thoughtless bully steeped in unearned pride into a selfless soldier was caused by his subconscious guilt at murdering his father. Suzaku’s morality is derived from the perspective his mistakes have earned him. They are the result of it, they are not the manifestation of it. With Euphies help he came to terms with himself, and happily remained who he was.

    Millions have died at his hand. He should perchance be joyful? Or seeing that some hours would have gone by since then argue that it is the past and thus irrelevant?

    Euphie had delayed Geass because deep down her true nature contradicted her Geass Order. Euphie was a pacifist and she was struggling against her Geass to the very end. Suzaku’s Geass was to “Live on”, self-preservation is a basic instinct of all animals, and he had no real true inner nature to contradict his Geass command. Hence, he took the course that he felt would fulfill his Geass command: Kill everyone else in order to live on.

    Delicious Irony? Yes, especially coming from the White Knight: Suzaku. Who, by now, has earned his Season One nickname of the “White Reaper”.

    Indeed he failed, Vernor Vinges “A Fire Upon the Deep” reference, a suicide pact is not the firmest ground for an alliance with ones subconscious. ‘Tis tragic that his best endeavors were not sufficient, but indeed they were his best endeavors honestly made.

    And they call Lulu a liberator and the UFN a hope for the future. PR is everything and people are at times fuckwits, ‘ere they with horror see the truth.

    Suzaku was not mentally prepared to handle the responsibility of handling the FLEIA. Truly, last episode he was more than ready to make-up with Lelouch until Kanon came in with the Gestapo to arrest him. It was irresponsible to send someone who is already psychologically damaged and emotionally frayed into battle against his former best friend armed with a WMD. Furthermore, even without a “cancel code”, Suzaku could’ve smashed the controls to prevent him from launching FLEIA.

    Your ability to rationalize away Suzaku’s blatant perpetration of mass murder is awe-inspiring.

    In recognizing that the one who bore freya into battle must with the courage to use it possess the courage to not use it Suzaku said the words that indicated him the most worthy prospective candidate to shoulder its responsibility. When he accepted death rather than employ it to save his own life he lived those words and proved himself most worthy. Such convictions can not be tritely swept aside no matter how deeply you wish they could be, his soul is Great and Good.

    Last Episode, Lulu Went Bad. Lulu at the start if episode 17 wasn’t Lulu at the end of it. This Lulu needs to be put down.

    And caused a mislaunch. Or succeeded, and had to hot-wire it in a flurry of geass activity. Monday morning quarterbacking again.

    By his hand are millions dead. Directly against his manifested will. By Lulu’s will are millions dead. That’s magical mindcontrol in the hands of a self-righteous teenager for you. If only CC hadn’t come along and let Lulu go on a shooting spree at Ashford in six months like he was probably going to.

    Suzaku was not alone on the battlefield. If he wanted to withdraw(as he had been advised to earlier by Lloyd and Cecile), he could’ve requested backup from the Gareth forces, the Mordred, or the Tristan which could’ve disengaged from his battle with the Seigfreid to assist in recovering Suzaku’s cockpit (if ejecting the cockpit was his chosen alternative).

    I believe, what led Suzaku to choosing to detonate a bomb (in the direction of his own base lolnice aiming Suzaku) was Nina’s last minute advice that using the “FLEIA” would “save him”.

    But again, Lelouch’s only command was for Suzaku to live, not to murder millions of people. You can’t extrapolate a “live” command, into “kill tons of people” and lay the blame at Lelouch’s feet for HOW Suzaku chose to live, because ultimately it was a choice by Suzaku.

    Furthermore, I’m not sure why you find it so unbelievable that a man who murdered his own father in cold-blood would be able to murder others he is completely unrelated to.

    This is dishonest farce and lies. He couldn’t run without being cut down. He couldn’t eject without being picked off. He couldn’t surrender without being cut down. Nobody could stand up to Guren. One path remained, and when a path was required it was employed.

    That one enamoured of Lulu can not see how evil and disgust the irresistible compulsion to personal survival is is not surprising. In all circumstances, Suzaku must in direct contradiction of his beliefs place his own life paramount to all other concerns. Children screaming for help in a building engulfed in flames? Screw ‘em. Maniac gunning down the defenseless and him an unarmed bystander? Tough luck. Racial purists frame him for regicide in order to wipe away all internal progress his ethnicity have made in a hostile system and the only way to counter it is to man up and go “Dreyfus”? Screw that, he’s running.
    Don’t have to take this on faith, Sunrise deigns to show. Fuck that, they then take the time to explain. Suzaku Kururugi is convert to morality, he’s walking the walk. He’s freakn’ Saul of Tarsus and watching what happened after he killed his dad was his Road to Damascus.

    Here is a fact you cannot escape:
    Suzaku has now murdered (that’s right, murdered as in willfully and intentionally using a weapon of mass destruction) more innocent civilians and Britannian forces than Lelouch has in two Seasons.
    This is irrefutable. You can try to spin events all you want but ultimate responsibility lies in the man who AIMED and pulled the trigger. No matter what kind of “Nuremburg Defense” you might use it does not absolve personal responsibility on the battlefield.
    Euphie was able to resist her Geass Command (to an extent) because she found it apalling. Suzaku should have had the same fortitude, but apparently, killing millions of people wasn’t all that abhorrent to Suzaku that he, you know, might’ve struggled, just a little bit, when pulling that trigger.

    He tried. He failed. There is no intent when ones actions were dictated by maliscious employment magical powers by a hostile party. This is the ‘witchcraft’ defense, somewhat older but not without successful precedent.

55. Haesslich August 11th, 2008 6:16 pm

    I will say one thing, jack: “Intent” doesn’t matter much to the victims or their families. Suzaku fired the bomb, even if Lulu was the one who gave him the “live” Geass. He could’ve run, but apparently didn’t think he could and went for the bomb. Lulu has his part to blame in this (the initial Live Geass, and not ordering Orange-kun to un-Geass Suzaku) as does Kallen (if she’d killed him faster, this wouldn’t be an issue… and she had the power to do so in the new Guren Seiten). But Suzaku will have to bear his own cross as well, given that there were many opportunities to end this – he could’ve killed Zero way back when, several times, so this situation wouldn’t have come around. He could’ve refused to carry the nuke, or taken Guren Seitan into battle since the OS had been broken open enough to let Cecile add pretty pictures to the OS. He also could’ve ordered someone to kill him indirectly, if he was truly intent on suicide.

    In the end, ten million people suffered for the ‘oops’ with the bomb. And, as far as the Elevens are concerned, Suzaku fired the bomb willingly on his own people – whether he ‘wanted’ to or not doesn’t matter; the only difference here is whether he goes emo over killing everyone in Tokyo or goes emo because he’s busy blaming Lulu for what he did.

56. Maipeisu August 11th, 2008 7:00 pm

    Attempting neither to defend or condemn Bombzaku, allow me to point out that the ‘command’ geass appears to function by rearranging a person’s neural pathways, not by rewriting them entirely. Note the brain-through-the-iris animation sequences. Lulu’s geass cannot force a person to perform an action that is beyond their capability or conceptualization. To my knowledge, no such attempt has ever been made in the series, save for Lulu’s command to a dying Shirley, which, ruling out the potentially nullifying effects of the geass canceler, likely failed because it was an impossible instruction to fulfill. This implies that Suzuka was not stretching his imagination when he opted to deploy FLEIA as a last resort. To him, it was a possibility, and a viable one at that. I do not subscribe to the Power of Suggestion (courtesy of Ms. Batshit) argument, because Suzuka had a good long while to contemplate the detonation of the warhead and its consequences for the Tokyo Settlement’s denizens. The point here is that he considered it as a possible solution to his dilemma, weighing the lives of millions against the opportunity capture/punish/kill Zero in one fell swoop. That, more than anything else, vividly portrays Suzaku’s unstable mentality.

    What I am really curious about here is how geass’ origins and the Black Knights’ battle for supremacy will plot-converge in the end. Lulu seems so obsessed with retrieving Nunnally that I cannot imagine how his efforts will ultimately position him to deal with Charles. Furthermore, I would like to know the true origins of geass and the reason why geass propagation cults were formed in the first place. There are still many, many questions left to be answered.

57. Halcyon August 11th, 2008 7:39 pm

    @Jack

    To re-iterate, “He freaking filled out his army with them and uses the rest of them as a totally secure base of operations and manpower pool!”. Friend of lies that you are that you seek to make this mean he took one million people out of Zero uniforms and put them in black knight uniforms, he did exactly what I said he did, filled out his org structure and with the untold chaff that did not possess skills he desired founded a city he uses as his own private country where he is the God-King Zero.

    There is no evidence to support your wild unsubstantiated theory. The 1 Million Japanese people are, for all intents and purposes, living free and independent lives on a nice artificial island off the coast of China until proven otherwise.

    Indeed Suzaku’s re-invention of himself from thoughtless bully steeped in unearned pride into a selfless soldier was caused by his subconscious guilt at murdering his father. Suzaku’s morality is derived from the perspective his mistakes have earned him. They are the result of it, they are not the manifestation of it. With Euphies help he came to terms with himself, and happily remained who he was.

    Uhhhhhhhh, Suzaku isn’t being “selfless”, he’s being “selfish”, his actions aren’t motivated by altruism towards others. His actions are motivated by his own desire to exercise himself of his own guilt. The heroism is a byproduct, not an end goal for Suzakul. Ultimately, it’s just another coping mechanism for killing his own father.

    In effect, Suzaku is attempting to absolve himself through suicide. That is not courage, that is the very definition of cowardice. If he really wanted to become a “hero”, he would first do so by taking responsibility for murdering his father which he has yet to do. In fact, he did the very opposite by running towards his father’s enemy, Britannia, to lose himself.

    In recognizing that the one who bore freya into battle must with the courage to use it possess the courage to not use it Suzaku said the words that indicated him the most worthy prospective candidate to shoulder its responsibility. When he accepted death rather than employ it to save his own life he lived those words and proved himself most worthy. Such convictions can not be tritely swept aside no matter how deeply you wish they could be, his soul is Great and Good.

    This is where you are tragically mistaken. Suzaku has not only accepted death but embraced it wholeheartedly. He has been seeking it out ever since Season One.

    Last Episode, Lulu Went Bad. Lulu at the start if episode 17 wasn’t Lulu at the end of it. This Lulu needs to be put down.

    Went bad? What show have YOU been watching? Lelouch has “been bad” ever since he got his Geass. He’s only now becoming worse because of the constant betrayals by those he seems to trust/reach out to.

    If anything, this Lelouch needs to cut loose and be true to his “Demon King” persona. Enough with the kid gloves, he needs to play hardball. That is the only way his revolution will succeed.

    And caused a mislaunch. Or succeeded, and had to hot-wire it in a flurry of geass activity. Monday morning quarterbacking again.

    Any attempt to actually render the WMD inoperable is certainly more preferable to keeping it active, then firing it on non-combatants.

    By his hand are millions dead. Directly against his manifested will. By Lulu’s will are millions dead. That’s magical mindcontrol in the hands of a self-righteous teenager for you. If only CC hadn’t come along and let Lulu go on a shooting spree at Ashford in six months like he was probably going to.

    By his hand? How again, do you rationalize a “LIVE” Geass, translating into killing tens of millions of people? Please explain that one to me.
    Because again, if Suizaku has been seeking death since Season One and was even willing to allow Kallen to fry him, then even attempting to escape and failing to escape would’ve fulfilled his most earnest desire to die on the battlefield instead of killing his own troops.

    Again, your Nuremburg Defense of “someone told me to do it” fails the test as Lelouch’s Geass Command is the very opposite of what Suzaku did. Live =/= Kill.

    This is dishonest farce and lies. He couldn’t run without being cut down. He couldn’t eject without being picked off. He couldn’t surrender without being cut down. Nobody could stand up to Guren. One path remained, and when a path was required it was employed.

    This is simply not true.
    Firstly, Suzaku had back up in the form of TWO Knight of Rounds in the Area which could’ve been called in for assistance.
    Secondly, Suzaku had already wanted to die, thinking his death would atone for his earlier murder of his father and possible betrayal (twice) of his so-called friend.

    By Suzaku’s OWN ACTIONS, getting cut down would’ve been preferable to his subsequent action of murdering masses of Japanese and Britannians. Your logic simply fails to acknowledge this simple simple fact.

    That one enamoured of Lulu can not see how evil and disgust the irresistible compulsion to personal survival is is not surprising.

    I’ve made many post acknowledging Lelouch’s amoral behavior. It’s not being “enamoured” of him. It’s simply accepting his character as intended, as written by Sunrise for the show.

    Lelouch is a far more interesting and controversial character as he is now than he would be if Sunrise made him into a pathetic weak ineffectual Suzaku clone.
    For all of Suzaku’s claims of changing Britannia from within, he has become part of the problem, not the solution. This episode only further illustrates that Suzaku acts in lockstep with whatever orders he’s given by his Britannian Masters, no matter how morally ambiguous those orders may be.

    In all circumstances, Suzaku must in direct contradiction of his beliefs place his own life paramount to all other concerns.

    Self-preservation is a basic response of every animal. That cannot be disputed. If you wish to attempt to, please speak with your nearest anthropologist

    Children screaming for help in a building engulfed in flames? Screw ‘em. Maniac gunning down the defenseless and him an unarmed bystander? Tough luck. Racial purists frame him for regicide in order to wipe away all internal progress his ethnicity have made in a hostile system and the only way to counter it is to man up and go “Dreyfus”? Screw that, he’s running.

    Millions of people running to escape from a battlezone? Nuke ‘em! Because that’s much better than running away!

    Suzaku Kururugi is convert to morality, he’s walking the walk. He’s freakn’ Saul of Tarsus and watching what happened after he killed his dad was his Road to Damascus.

    If he was walking the walk, he never would’ve agreed to sortie with FLEIA attached to Lancelot. You don’t walk into a firefight with a loaded gun without any intentions of using it. He gambled that Lelouch would be intimidated by his bomhax and failed and now has to bear the additional burden of his carelessness.

    He tried. He failed.

    There was no indication that he struggled with his Geass Command in the same way Euphie did. In fact, he embraced it wholeheartedly and fired without a second’s pause. He did not “try”, he simply took the course of action that Nina had been suggesting without thinking of the consequences.

    What’s even more absurd was that he fired in the direction of his OWN base. That’s just inexcusable.

    There is no intent when ones actions were dictated by maliscious employment magical powers by a hostile party. This is the ‘witchcraft’ defense, somewhat older but not without successful precedent.

    Funny, “Live” means “Kill” in your logic, right? Your argument, unfortunately, simply holds no water when presented against the facts of Lelouch’s actual Geass command.

    @Haesslich

    We may have our differences but I agree with a few of the things you posted.

    Suzaku fired the bomb, even if Lulu was the one who gave him the “live” Geass.

    Right on the money. Ultimate responsibility lies with he who pulls the trigger. Not he who gives the command to pull the trigger. Well played.

    He could’ve run, but apparently didn’t think he could and went for the bomb.

    My point exactly.

    He could’ve refused to carry the nuke, or taken Guren Seitan into battle since the OS had been broken open enough to let Cecile add pretty pictures to the OS. He also could’ve ordered someone to kill him indirectly, if he was truly intent on suicide.

    Also valid input. He walked out with a loaded WMD, if he was really morally opposed to killing, he could’ve sortied without it.

    In the end, ten million people suffered for the ‘oops’ with the bomb. And, as far as the Elevens are concerned, Suzaku fired the bomb willingly on his own people – whether he ‘wanted’ to or not doesn’t matter; the only difference here is whether he goes emo over killing everyone in Tokyo or goes emo because he’s busy blaming Lulu for what he did.

    Great insight. Especially the end bit.

    @Maipeisu

    Attempting neither to defend or condemn Bombzaku, allow me to point out that the ‘command’ geass appears to function by rearranging a person’s neural pathways, not by rewriting them entirely. Note the brain-through-the-iris animation sequences. Lulu’s geass cannot force a person to perform an action that is beyond their capability or conceptualization. To my knowledge, no such attempt has ever been made in the series, save for Lulu’s command to a dying Shirley, which, ruling out the potentially nullifying effects of the geass canceler, likely failed because it was an impossible instruction to fulfill. This implies that Suzuka was not stretching his imagination when he opted to deploy FLEIA as a last resort. To him, it was a possibility, and a viable one at that. I do not subscribe to the Power of Suggestion (courtesy of Ms. Batshit) argument, because Suzuka had a good long while to contemplate the detonation of the warhead and its consequences for the Tokyo Settlement’s denizens. The point here is that he considered it as a possible solution to his dilemma, weighing the lives of millions against the opportunity capture/punish/kill Zero in one fell swoop. That, more than anything else, vividly portrays Suzaku’s unstable mentality.

    Incredible. Absolutely incredible viewpoint. I’ll be looking at your posts more closely from now on. You raise a valid point that the Geass doesn’t force you to do something you simply cannot do.

    It’s ironic how no one brings up the point that Suzaku brought out a WMD in the middle of a fight that was bordering an active city. That alone should tell you what his character is. Sunrise has recently been flirting with the idea of Suzaku being as morally ambiguous as Lelouch, treading down that pathway slowly and I think this exemplifies it perfectly.

    What I am really curious about here is how geass’ origins and the Black Knights’ battle for supremacy will plot-converge in the end. Lulu seems so obsessed with retrieving Nunnally that I cannot imagine how his efforts will ultimately position him to deal with Charles.

    I think Nunnally’s removal from the CG world really frees Lelouch to act as viciously as he wants to. All his efforts to topple Britannia up til now have been hampered by Lelouch’s concern for Nunnally’s safety. With Nunnally out of the way we’re going to see a whole new Lelouch that might actually be on par with Charles and may even exceed Schneizel on the battlefield.

    That’s what I’m looking forward to. How the “new” Lelouch will far against his final boss father. The only possible impediment to Lelouch embracing his darker nature may be Kallen as his emotional connection to her may serve as a lingering anchor keeping him from descending into despotic megalomania.

58. cj August 11th, 2008 9:03 pm

    @the last few posts regarding bombzaku (too lazy too look for quotes you’ll know what I’m talking about)

    Ok it’s Suzaku’s fault for one simple reason you don’t go into battle with a weapon you say you’re not going to use, but he couldn’t leave it on the ship the ship you have to consider Nina which is why Suzaku took it to keep it away from Nina (that’s what I think it’s the only logical thing I can think of) But his mistake was not defusing it knowing that his geass to live on could’ve activated so you see it’s really Suzaku’s fault for being a retard and not taking into consideration the posible outcomes of battle like Lelouch, Lelouch only does something after analyzing every other posible choice unlike Suzaku who’s plot armor allows him to go into a gun fight with a tiny knife and come out alive, that’s Jesus powers to ya.

    There is no posible way you can blame this on Lelouch I mean really how the hell was he suppose to know a year ago that Suzaku would hold a nuke and in his last moments fire it because of that command really????? Besides he considered Suzaku’s move a bluff (which it was but he didn’t know that there really was a Nuke).

    Many of you have already said it but Suzaku is just an emo who can’t kill himself that’s all and all he wants is to leave this world to atone for his “sins” which is stupid because it doesn’t resolve anything. Yet another thing wrong with Suzaku is his idea that he can actually make a difference from withing please so what you’re going to save a thousand people after Britannia makes you kill Millions of others? Remember a whole year passed Suzaku running wild in the world in his inmorortal Lancelot kicking whoevers ass was crazy enough to fight Britania (we all know only Zero can do it)

    So whoever of you who was defending Suzaku tell me how has he not earned one of these nicknames:
    Drugzaku, Spinzaku, Moralfagzaku, Bombzaku, Masacrezaku, Emozaku, Idiotzaku, Fagzaku, If I’m missing one I’m sorry I’m tired I will post tommorrow if anyone posts.

    Also this will be in everyone of my posts until it happens
    DEATH TO ROLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    cuz I really hate him

59. Haesslich August 11th, 2008 9:49 pm

    cj: Some responsibility rests on Lulu’s shoulders because he had several opportunities to take care of the “live” Geass… and he has had access to Orange-kun’s Geass Canceller for several episodes. If he was wanting Suzaku to die, he could’ve arranged for it by allowing Rolo to do away with Suzaku way back when. If he wanted to remove the Geass, he could’ve done so even during this episode. Plus there’s the whole ‘Suzaku blames Lulu for Euphie’s death’ thing to deal with… and knowing that Suzaku had willingly murdered his dad to end the Britannia/Japan war would suggest that Suzaku could do something rather… bad. Even if he didn’t know about FLEIJA, he knew Suzaku well enough to have gambled on the One Million Zeroes tactic working. That, and for setting up the battle to happen where it did also meant that lives were being put at risk.

    Suzaku was the guy who, in the end, pulled the trigger. But Lulu has had chances to stop Suzaku before the bomb was pulled… and didn’t, because he believed in his friendship with Suzaku as well as the latter’s decency. Unfortunately, Suzaku’s instability and the “live” Geass overrode those other factors, resulting in him detonating the FREIJA bomb practically in Nunnally’s face. However, Lulu was also STUPID enough to send Rolo-the-Unstable-Killer to rescue his sister, so obviously his judgement has been suffering for the past few episodes anyways.

    But, at least Suzaku’s lived up to the Massacre Princess’ legacy – she only managed to kill a few thousand Elevens, and he topped that easy.

60. westrim August 11th, 2008 9:51 pm

    Wow. You all need to get a grip and remember that this is JUST FICTION (and I edit its articles on wikipedia, but geez, we don’t write essays back and forth during a disagreement). The main point to remember always is that events happen only because the writers want them to. Yes, he could have not fired the bomb, but that wouldn’t have been nearly as exciting, would it? We all knew as soon as she entrusted it to him that this would happen, yet you’re all writing essays back and forth about why it shouldn’t have. Get a grip, and try directing that energy into the schoolwork that statistically most of you have.

61. xrampage August 11th, 2008 10:05 pm

    Sayokooooooooooooooooo!!! T_T
    ok, sorry, but I just love her, she’s so damn sexy xD

62. Code Geass R2 18: A Letter To Crusader And Some Afterthoughts « The Blue Fox Alley August 11th, 2008 11:22 pm

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63. SlothMaster August 12th, 2008 5:16 am

    I’m just worried Kallen will go over to Gino … that would suck bigtime

64. Goob August 12th, 2008 8:06 am

    Sorry Halycon and Cj, but you two are just fucking crazy. Blaming Suzaku even though HE WAS UNDER CONTROL OF THE GEASS (hence Lelouch’s fault) is beyond retarded.

    I’ve never seen such blind fanboys with the most stupid, illogical arguments ever made.

65. lilu August 12th, 2008 8:26 am

    Who’s fault?

    Lelouch
    Nina
    Suzaku
    Kallen
    Brittania
    Black knights
    Nana-chan

66. Halcyon August 12th, 2008 8:46 am

    @goob

    Sorry Halycon and Cj, but you two are just fucking crazy. Blaming Suzaku even though HE WAS UNDER CONTROL OF THE GEASS (hence Lelouch’s fault) is beyond retarded.

    Read Maipeisu’s reply as it nullifies any argument that Lelouch could be at fault for Suzaku’s actions.

    Firstly, The Geass Command cannot force you to do something you’re incapable of doing. Suzaku was capable of vaporizing millions of people, hence he did so.
    Secondly, the Geass Command was for Suzaku to survive, not to kill.
    Thirdly, it was Suzaku’s own choice to go out to war, in the middle of a city, armed with a WMD.
    Fourthly, Suzaku pulled the trigger, not Lelouch!

    That whole Nuremburg Defense (as I’ve stated earlier) does not hold up because of the simple fact that his Geass Command did not force him to kill anyone, unlike Euphie’s Command. His Geass Command only forces him to save himself, it doesn’t make a choice of how he should accomplish that. That is up to Suzaku.

    I’ve never seen such blind fanboys with the most stupid, illogical arguments ever made.

    I’ve yet to see anyone point out a single flaw in my statement.

    Your only rebuttals thus far have been “but..but… he was Geass’d!! The Geass told him to kill millions of his own people”.

    To which I have replied (with facts) that no, his Geass commands him to Survive, not to kill.

    At any rate, was it his Geass that forced Suzaku to take AIM at the government center in the direction of his own troops instead of Zero or the Ikaruga?

    No, that was pure Suzaku baby.

    For all “OMG GEASS MADE HIM DO IT” arguments, please read Maipeisu’s post as it is the most brilliantly constructed reply on this topic.

67. Kobukson August 12th, 2008 11:15 am

    And so we finally have the Nuke Episode! So who’s to blame? Both of them like always.

    Suzaku: Pulled the tigger, wasn’t able to fight the Geass like his precious Euphy, didn’t refuse the mission on principle, didn’t figure out a way to fire the nuke off into the ocean as a warning against the Black Knights or something

    Lulu: Geassed Mr. Suicidal to live thus causing many of these issues, wrote Suzaku’s threat off and didn’t take it seriously, told Kallen to have at him despite knowing about the Live On Geass

    On Lulu, those last two, I would argue, make Lulu just as responsible. I mean, Lulu knows that Suzaku would do anything to stay alive due to the Live Geass, was told by Suzaku he had a friggin’ nuke, and despite all that ordered Kallen to create such a situation as to lead Suzaku to pull the trigger against his better judgement. His strategy abilities must have been set to Off this episode not only to send Rollo in for Nunally but to ignore the White Reaper’s nuke talk.

    But darn it Suzaku! Learn from Lulu and try and THINK THING THROUGH!

    Anyways, poor Kallen. Complete loyalty, awesome piloting, and snapping Lulu in line occasionally leads only to being Priority #3 -.-

68. cj August 12th, 2008 3:31 pm

    @everyone against me and Halcyon
    Firsto of all I’m am no Lelouch fanboy, he’s just the only character that has (I believe) the best plan of action in the series. I still believe that other things should be done before going for an all out rebellion which really only causes more chaos but I’m not going to explain my theory right now. I agree with what Halcyon said I mean really how the hell is LIVE ON mean shoot a bomb in the middle of the air and run away it was far more easier to just run PERIOD why did he need to fire the bomb then? Becuase by his retarded logic the bomb increases his chances of survival -_- really shooting bombs close too you allows you to survive more? That is really interesting now I know what to do if I go to war just throw granades around and run because the grenade draws the attention away from me …….. Also you really can’t say that because of live on Suzaku would react like that I mean that means he’s inmortal because the geass will save his life every time WRONG the Geass can’t make you do something that you aren’t physically able to do which means that it wasn’t the geass that saved him but Suzaku’s Jesus powers and ability to bend physics in a way that makes his knightmare faster and stronger than eveyone else’s. I mean the broken KNF was still faster than Kallen which doesn’t make sense because a few seconds ago it was getting badly owned. Lelouch knows the geass is in effect but still believed kallen was good enough a pilot to defeat his Jesus powers. You can say that it was a miscalculation on Lelouch’s part and he tends to make them when all emo and demonic (and all around sentimental) but most of the fault lies with Suzaku’s lack of planning I mean (dare I say it) he’s very close to reaching Tamaki’s level of being able to plan things out.

    @westrim
    I know that the real ones at fault are the writers but writing these essays is just the thing to kill boredom it’s quite enjoyable after a while; at first I was like you ^.^

69. Haesslich August 12th, 2008 3:40 pm

    Thinking things over, Suzaku probably COULDN’T have run – or at least, not run and escaped Guren Seitan thanks to its Wings of Light. Of course, Kallen’s now got to bear the guilt for merely playing with Suzaku instead of killing him immediately the way she could’ve with her flying radiation fist or other weapons. Of course, now everything with 8000m/5 miles of the government building’s been bombed… even if the bomb only took a 1300m-radius circle around the government building, due to the ‘up to 3000m super blast from void drag’ effect’ and the unspecified 5000m-8000m effect radius.

70. code_geass August 12th, 2008 8:54 pm

    I think if Nunnally dies, I hope she dies in the hands of Suzaku… but I don’t want her to die.

    Lol Those acronyms are made up anyways… right?

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