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		<title>By: emmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>emmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 02:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally watched this series... I HATE suzaku, I can't explain how much I hate him now, he stepped on Lulu like... he is---

For some reason I like Lulu more after this epi, how can he put his pride on line for his sister. He didn't try to defend him, he didn't use geass on Euphy on purpose and Shirley was not killed by him, ughhh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally watched this series&#8230; I HATE suzaku, I can&#8217;t explain how much I hate him now, he stepped on Lulu like&#8230; he is&#8212;</p>
<p>For some reason I like Lulu more after this epi, how can he put his pride on line for his sister. He didn&#8217;t try to defend him, he didn&#8217;t use geass on Euphy on purpose and Shirley was not killed by him, ughhh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ixbite</title>
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		<dc:creator>ixbite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a prediction: everything is going to fall apart in the end for Lelouch and everyone is going to die. Lovely isn't it? And the Emperor is totally getting ready to blow up the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a prediction: everything is going to fall apart in the end for Lelouch and everyone is going to die. Lovely isn&#8217;t it? And the Emperor is totally getting ready to blow up the world.</p>
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		<title>By: C.I.</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never did think mechs in Geass retained their "killer machine that kills everything status" for more than about...5 episodes at best?</description>
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		<title>By: skoll</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/08/03/code-geass-r2-episode-17-a-taste-of-soil/#comment-257105</link>
		<dc:creator>skoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More unbelievable than an eye that shoots mind-control lasers? Aside from that, it seemed to me like Suzaku read Leleouch on several of those lies. A more plausible explanation would be that he wants (?) Suzaku to blame him for some reason and gives him what he wants. 

Anyway, I wouldn't have jumped to conclusions once Britannian mecha started popping up out of nowhere. Speaking of which, one has to wonder how such enormous mecha sneak up on people such that they can get RIGHT OVER them and form a ring. Puzzling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More unbelievable than an eye that shoots mind-control lasers? Aside from that, it seemed to me like Suzaku read Leleouch on several of those lies. A more plausible explanation would be that he wants (?) Suzaku to blame him for some reason and gives him what he wants. </p>
<p>Anyway, I wouldn&#8217;t have jumped to conclusions once Britannian mecha started popping up out of nowhere. Speaking of which, one has to wonder how such enormous mecha sneak up on people such that they can get RIGHT OVER them and form a ring. Puzzling.</p>
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		<title>By: BLU</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe one day,those 3(lelouch,suzaku&#38;nunally)will be back again together before the last episode comes.</description>
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		<title>By: Calawain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calawain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Halycon

No they haven't been shown yet.  One of them is supposed to have a connection with Cornelia, so we may see her when Cornelia appears more.  But the last boy and girl have yet to appear more than in passing.

Yes they will get around to it, probably the very last couple of episodes.

@Skoll

Once again, not really believable for Suzaku most likely.

@CJ

That would be awesome, go Kallen =)

@Halycon

Like CJ said, he wanted her code.  Whether it gives him any extra benefit since he already has VV's code we don't know.  Whether it's super ultra immortality, or just to piss Lelouch off...

@Jeph

For the most part he's going to use Rolo to his advantage because he said he's becoming more cold and calculated.  Killing him over Shirley would not be in line with his new "demon king" personality.

@Emmi

Suzaku has multiple types of plot armor, so I wouldn't be surprised if he got nice in the ending =/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Halycon</p>
<p>No they haven&#8217;t been shown yet.  One of them is supposed to have a connection with Cornelia, so we may see her when Cornelia appears more.  But the last boy and girl have yet to appear more than in passing.</p>
<p>Yes they will get around to it, probably the very last couple of episodes.</p>
<p>@Skoll</p>
<p>Once again, not really believable for Suzaku most likely.</p>
<p>@CJ</p>
<p>That would be awesome, go Kallen =)</p>
<p>@Halycon</p>
<p>Like CJ said, he wanted her code.  Whether it gives him any extra benefit since he already has VV&#8217;s code we don&#8217;t know.  Whether it&#8217;s super ultra immortality, or just to piss Lelouch off&#8230;</p>
<p>@Jeph</p>
<p>For the most part he&#8217;s going to use Rolo to his advantage because he said he&#8217;s becoming more cold and calculated.  Killing him over Shirley would not be in line with his new &#8220;demon king&#8221; personality.</p>
<p>@Emmi</p>
<p>Suzaku has multiple types of plot armor, so I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if he got nice in the ending =/</p>
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		<title>By: emmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>emmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get the feeling that Sunrise is trying to make Suzaku look more innocent for the ending... I don't know how it's coming up, did it really seem like Suzaku would be pittied.

And after what he done to Lulu now (intentionally or unintentionally..I agrre with u, calawain)he is more on my bad side now!!!
Suzaku's betrayal was the last nothing Lulu needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the feeling that Sunrise is trying to make Suzaku look more innocent for the ending&#8230; I don&#8217;t know how it&#8217;s coming up, did it really seem like Suzaku would be pittied.</p>
<p>And after what he done to Lulu now (intentionally or unintentionally..I agrre with u, calawain)he is more on my bad side now!!!<br />
Suzaku&#8217;s betrayal was the last nothing Lulu needed.</p>
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		<title>By: jeph</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lelouch probably sent Rolo into the middle of the freakin barracks or somewhere where's he equally likely to get shot like seventy bigillion times.  Or more likely, he'll get a kuni between the third and fourth spinal discs with a note attached that says "from your friendly neighborhood supermaid".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lelouch probably sent Rolo into the middle of the freakin barracks or somewhere where&#8217;s he equally likely to get shot like seventy bigillion times.  Or more likely, he&#8217;ll get a kuni between the third and fourth spinal discs with a note attached that says &#8220;from your friendly neighborhood supermaid&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: cj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Halycon
He wanted C.C. for her code that's why he needed to catch her. He ended up taking V.V.'S cuz he lied to him but I wonder if he could have 2 codes cuz apparently he took C2's as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Halycon<br />
He wanted C.C. for her code that&#8217;s why he needed to catch her. He ended up taking V.V.&#8217;S cuz he lied to him but I wonder if he could have 2 codes cuz apparently he took C2&#8217;s as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Halcyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halcyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@skoll

Think about that for a minute. How believable would it be for Lelouch to say "Whoops, my Geass went off by accident! I didn't mean to command her to kill thousands of Japanese in the stadium" or "Hey, you know your own Intelligence Division Office who's supposed to be keeping an eye on me for Britannia? Yeah, he's the one who killed Shirley, not me".

From Suzaku's perspective, the truth is more unbelievable than the lie. Suzaku doesn't know that the Geass can grow to the point where it goes out of control. Suzaku also doesn't know that Rolo has betrayed Britannia and switched to Lelouch's side or that Rolo has a Geass.

And even still, Lelouch's point to meeting with Suzaku wasn't to make up it was to get Suzaku to save Nunnally. He doesn't care if Suzaku hates him as long as he promised to save Nunnally.


IMO, Suzaku really dropped the ball on this episode by not trying to explain himself to Lelouch when Lelouch was detained in the SUV. He had a chance to minimize the fallout and he kind of let Lelouch fall by the wayside. From Lelouch's perspective it really does look like Scumzaku sold him out...AGAIN.

That plus the writing on this show is just plain terrible. Remember when the Emperor let Lelouch go just so they could catch C.C in Ep 1? Then we find out C.C just wants to die... WTF was the point of catching her then? It had absolutely nothing to do with the Emperor's plan to use Ragnarok to slay the gods.

This show is written by monkeys. But I'll keep tuning in until the fanservice/drama/mecha battles stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@skoll</p>
<p>Think about that for a minute. How believable would it be for Lelouch to say &#8220;Whoops, my Geass went off by accident! I didn&#8217;t mean to command her to kill thousands of Japanese in the stadium&#8221; or &#8220;Hey, you know your own Intelligence Division Office who&#8217;s supposed to be keeping an eye on me for Britannia? Yeah, he&#8217;s the one who killed Shirley, not me&#8221;.</p>
<p>From Suzaku&#8217;s perspective, the truth is more unbelievable than the lie. Suzaku doesn&#8217;t know that the Geass can grow to the point where it goes out of control. Suzaku also doesn&#8217;t know that Rolo has betrayed Britannia and switched to Lelouch&#8217;s side or that Rolo has a Geass.</p>
<p>And even still, Lelouch&#8217;s point to meeting with Suzaku wasn&#8217;t to make up it was to get Suzaku to save Nunnally. He doesn&#8217;t care if Suzaku hates him as long as he promised to save Nunnally.</p>
<p>IMO, Suzaku really dropped the ball on this episode by not trying to explain himself to Lelouch when Lelouch was detained in the SUV. He had a chance to minimize the fallout and he kind of let Lelouch fall by the wayside. From Lelouch&#8217;s perspective it really does look like Scumzaku sold him out&#8230;AGAIN.</p>
<p>That plus the writing on this show is just plain terrible. Remember when the Emperor let Lelouch go just so they could catch C.C in Ep 1? Then we find out C.C just wants to die&#8230; WTF was the point of catching her then? It had absolutely nothing to do with the Emperor&#8217;s plan to use Ragnarok to slay the gods.</p>
<p>This show is written by monkeys. But I&#8217;ll keep tuning in until the fanservice/drama/mecha battles stop.</p>
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		<title>By: cj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@skoll
Sunrise probably didn't do that cuz Suzaku would've joined lulu and really the rest of the plot would've been a failure considering suzaku is Jesus in code geass and with lulu just as planned plans it would've been too easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@skoll<br />
Sunrise probably didn&#8217;t do that cuz Suzaku would&#8217;ve joined lulu and really the rest of the plot would&#8217;ve been a failure considering suzaku is Jesus in code geass and with lulu just as planned plans it would&#8217;ve been too easy.</p>
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		<title>By: cj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Calawain
Yeah you're right he doesn't know that he killed shirley because she mentioned nunally but still even I know that sending traumatized "little brothers" to save your sister spells disaster. But I think super maido is with him due to the preview  so I think lulu told her to kill him if things got out of hands. Also watching the preview again I noticed, now, that lancelot is infront of the shinkirou so I'm guessing that something like this will happen
Kallen: "sure I'll join you"
Gino: "yay here you go super guren"
Kallen: "thanks now explode"
Gino: "what?"
*boom*
XP
Kallen: "now to save zero"
OMGWTFBBQ HAX KNF TOO POWERFULL CAN SHOOT SUPER MEGA LASAH 
yay black knights win next episode but the episode later
Shneizel: "just as planned" *reveals plan*
so that's what I think but it's still a work in progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Calawain<br />
Yeah you&#8217;re right he doesn&#8217;t know that he killed shirley because she mentioned nunally but still even I know that sending traumatized &#8220;little brothers&#8221; to save your sister spells disaster. But I think super maido is with him due to the preview  so I think lulu told her to kill him if things got out of hands. Also watching the preview again I noticed, now, that lancelot is infront of the shinkirou so I&#8217;m guessing that something like this will happen<br />
Kallen: &#8220;sure I&#8217;ll join you&#8221;<br />
Gino: &#8220;yay here you go super guren&#8221;<br />
Kallen: &#8220;thanks now explode&#8221;<br />
Gino: &#8220;what?&#8221;<br />
*boom*<br />
XP<br />
Kallen: &#8220;now to save zero&#8221;<br />
OMGWTFBBQ HAX KNF TOO POWERFULL CAN SHOOT SUPER MEGA LASAH<br />
yay black knights win next episode but the episode later<br />
Shneizel: &#8220;just as planned&#8221; *reveals plan*<br />
so that&#8217;s what I think but it&#8217;s still a work in progress.</p>
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		<title>By: skoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>skoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I REALLY don't get why Lelouch didn't go, 'Oh hey, Euphemia? Not my fault. That was a joke. Her fault for taking it so seriously.' or, 'Shirley? Psycho gay-brother, not me.'

I get more and more reluctant to watch Geass everytime, not because it's bad but because every episode I have a foreboding feeling that someone I like will get shafted in the next episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I REALLY don&#8217;t get why Lelouch didn&#8217;t go, &#8216;Oh hey, Euphemia? Not my fault. That was a joke. Her fault for taking it so seriously.&#8217; or, &#8216;Shirley? Psycho gay-brother, not me.&#8217;</p>
<p>I get more and more reluctant to watch Geass everytime, not because it&#8217;s bad but because every episode I have a foreboding feeling that someone I like will get shafted in the next episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Halcyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halcyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Calawain

Did they ever show what happened to the remaining female Knights of Round? Are they being dispatched against the UN from the western flank? I don't even think they ever got a proper introduction yet. I think they got maybe 1 or 2 lines as background characters in 1 episode and haven't been seen since. 

The other thing is, with Lelouch's renewed determination and, frankly, psychotic break, do you think Sunrise will ever get around to answering what exactly happened to Marianne? Who really was behind her assassination (Perhaps Charles?)? At first, it looked like V.V. might be behind it (V.V. seemed really pissed @ Lelouch for being a 'child of Marianne' and equally pissed @ Orange-kun for his loyalty to Marianne) but he got killed off before we could get a definitive answer.

With the next few episodes being battle-heavy (17-20 at the very least), and the end approaching fast (I figure ep 23-24 to set up the end for 25-26), there's not really much room to wrap up remaining plot threads. Marianne's unusual death was one of Lelouch's primary motivations in Season 1. It seems they've kind of downplayed that a lot during this season.

Also, it doesn't look like C2 will be regaining her memories at all. They've kinda pushed her character into the background as well unless there's an upcoming plothax we're unaware of. From what I can tell it looks like it's going to be LelouchxKallen for the next few episodes followed by the Search for Nunnally followed by stopping the Emperor's Ragnarok. For as much screen time as Schneizel has had this season he really doesn't seem to contribute much to the overall plot of CG. 

I hope we get to see the space battles foretold in the opening sequence!!! Otherwise, it'll be a major slap in teh face.</description>
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<p>Did they ever show what happened to the remaining female Knights of Round? Are they being dispatched against the UN from the western flank? I don&#8217;t even think they ever got a proper introduction yet. I think they got maybe 1 or 2 lines as background characters in 1 episode and haven&#8217;t been seen since. </p>
<p>The other thing is, with Lelouch&#8217;s renewed determination and, frankly, psychotic break, do you think Sunrise will ever get around to answering what exactly happened to Marianne? Who really was behind her assassination (Perhaps Charles?)? At first, it looked like V.V. might be behind it (V.V. seemed really pissed @ Lelouch for being a &#8216;child of Marianne&#8217; and equally pissed @ Orange-kun for his loyalty to Marianne) but he got killed off before we could get a definitive answer.</p>
<p>With the next few episodes being battle-heavy (17-20 at the very least), and the end approaching fast (I figure ep 23-24 to set up the end for 25-26), there&#8217;s not really much room to wrap up remaining plot threads. Marianne&#8217;s unusual death was one of Lelouch&#8217;s primary motivations in Season 1. It seems they&#8217;ve kind of downplayed that a lot during this season.</p>
<p>Also, it doesn&#8217;t look like C2 will be regaining her memories at all. They&#8217;ve kinda pushed her character into the background as well unless there&#8217;s an upcoming plothax we&#8217;re unaware of. From what I can tell it looks like it&#8217;s going to be LelouchxKallen for the next few episodes followed by the Search for Nunnally followed by stopping the Emperor&#8217;s Ragnarok. For as much screen time as Schneizel has had this season he really doesn&#8217;t seem to contribute much to the overall plot of CG. </p>
<p>I hope we get to see the space battles foretold in the opening sequence!!! Otherwise, it&#8217;ll be a major slap in teh face.</p>
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		<title>By: Calawain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calawain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jack

But by complaining about the unrealistic nature of the invasion you are doing exactly that, treating it with serious business.  It's not serious, it's an entertainment TV show.

@CJ

Yeah, I just rephrased it a bit differently, I read what you wrote :p

And I don't think Lelouch knows Rolo killed Shirley partially because she dropped Nunally's name, just that he killed her to protect Lelouch's identity.

@Hyzen

Ali is much, much more charming then Bradley.  He has a certain flare and enjoyment of battle rather than just bloodlust and stereotypical evil.

@Jackdaniels

Oh it's going to go off somehow, whether that's Schniezel/Nina setting it off remotely or an enraged Suzaku dropping it on Lelouch.

@Justam

Mmmm I suppose that's one way to do it, although I don't think Lelouch possesses a KMF that could defeat the Lancelot unless Kallen escapes in the super Guren.

@Omisyth

The cast is way too large, we need to start culling the herd next episode.  Hopefully it's mostly people we hate =)

@Ruk

I don't think Suzaku would have bought the real story, thinking Lelouch was just making it up to save himself.  Instead he just assumed blame hoping Suzaku would agree to save Nunally.

@Halycon

Suzaku being a moron explains most of your observations, heh.  

Mmmm Ougi being just a lovesick puppy, I like that characterization.

While Schniezel is using the same methods as Lelouch, don't forget how different their goals are.  Schniezel wants to be emperor for his own power while Lelouch is doing it for his own justice and to save Nunally.

Yeah I think the band-aid/ring imagery was intentional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jack</p>
<p>But by complaining about the unrealistic nature of the invasion you are doing exactly that, treating it with serious business.  It&#8217;s not serious, it&#8217;s an entertainment TV show.</p>
<p>@CJ</p>
<p>Yeah, I just rephrased it a bit differently, I read what you wrote :p</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think Lelouch knows Rolo killed Shirley partially because she dropped Nunally&#8217;s name, just that he killed her to protect Lelouch&#8217;s identity.</p>
<p>@Hyzen</p>
<p>Ali is much, much more charming then Bradley.  He has a certain flare and enjoyment of battle rather than just bloodlust and stereotypical evil.</p>
<p>@Jackdaniels</p>
<p>Oh it&#8217;s going to go off somehow, whether that&#8217;s Schniezel/Nina setting it off remotely or an enraged Suzaku dropping it on Lelouch.</p>
<p>@Justam</p>
<p>Mmmm I suppose that&#8217;s one way to do it, although I don&#8217;t think Lelouch possesses a KMF that could defeat the Lancelot unless Kallen escapes in the super Guren.</p>
<p>@Omisyth</p>
<p>The cast is way too large, we need to start culling the herd next episode.  Hopefully it&#8217;s mostly people we hate =)</p>
<p>@Ruk</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Suzaku would have bought the real story, thinking Lelouch was just making it up to save himself.  Instead he just assumed blame hoping Suzaku would agree to save Nunally.</p>
<p>@Halycon</p>
<p>Suzaku being a moron explains most of your observations, heh.  </p>
<p>Mmmm Ougi being just a lovesick puppy, I like that characterization.</p>
<p>While Schniezel is using the same methods as Lelouch, don&#8217;t forget how different their goals are.  Schniezel wants to be emperor for his own power while Lelouch is doing it for his own justice and to save Nunally.</p>
<p>Yeah I think the band-aid/ring imagery was intentional.</p>
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