Well personaly I didn’t quite like this episode. I mean yeah they set things up and yeah Kallen beat him … though I still don’t know how they got in that situation, they skipped scenes like crazy … Lord Bradley magically poofed in the prisoners chamber … I’m loosing focus here, SO : bottom line is I don’t like where this Lulu begging Drugzaku storyline is going at all … and C.C. - Lulu inter-relations need some work… and a condom…. ignore those last words. A dissapointing episode… and on my birthday too !!! P.S. @ MechaLolicon Extrange : LOL true.

The Producers, Crusader? Somehow, I had a feeling that it would come to this ever since the Heart episode of CG.

BTW, I am sad to say that I live in the middle of Dumbfuckistan. My Oklahoman pride wishes that it wasn’t located there.

Seriously, Kallen beat up Suzaku?!… can’t believe it, must see it!!!! Did Lulu really begged Suzaku for Nunnaly’s safety? but wasn’t he planning something, either way he should do it himself. ~ I think Cornelia will join Lulu.

@Crusader: Lulu doesn’t hate women, at least I don’t think so…

Kallen beating Suzaku had me screaming “Street Fighter!!!” with the “Shoryuken!” or perhaps “FINISH HIM!”

OMG! The Philippines is under the UFN. Looks like me countrymen are safe. XP

Crusader, I love you like the little sister I never had, but if you keep up the Lulu bashing, well, then I’ll have to destroy you. You’ll be the Spanish Armada. I’m the hurricane. Enjoy the scenic coasts of Ireland.

All this is the death of irony…

Confederate States of Lulu.

wait… Honolulu? LOL!

Wait, I’m being uncharitable…

Lelouch realized that the only person left in the entire world he could possibly consider a friend or rely on to do something for him without having to decieve them is Suzaku Kururugi, also known as the guy willing to without pause, allies, or expectation of victory keep fighting him tooth and nail until Lulu’s achieved world domination and beyond, even as things stand now. Truly that is made of win and awesome.

Half the world is being danced to a pipers tune at hard men holding an isolated outpost who put nukes on their mecha. The battle scenes to come will be epic. The River Wesser has nothing on all this.

They showed that Tainzi had to be fed her lines, kept near Kaguya, and faced forward by a behind-the-scenes crew of cajolers. These are no shining Lolis of epic will like the great Nunnally vi Britannia.

They’ve shown the death of loyalty. Lulu can fool people, but it’s been established that’s what he’s doing- fooling people.

Faith in Sunrise restored. Heh, something tells me it’s gonna be a /long/ night in area eleven when this show gets on the road.

Just saw the episode… and true, the best 20 seconds of Code Geass R2.
But one of the things I didn’t like is that Lulu begging Suzaku, he should go and save his sister himself. C.C like that is cute and it shows Lulu’s nicer side more, I like that ^^

I think Cornelia should join Lulu and help him beat the emperor along the way. Another thing, I am waiting for is Kallen’s rescue…

Uh, I’d at least like to point out about everyones criticism about Lelouch going to Suzaku for help… we already kind of saw him try to come up with every possible alternative he could think of, and none of them really worked. So him being pathetic here is forgivable in my view because at this point its his only option >_>

Eirias added these pithy words on Jul 27 08 at 6:27 pm

Crusader, I love you like the little sister I never had, but if you keep up the Lulu bashing, well, then I’ll have to destroy you. You’ll be the Spanish Armada. I’m the hurricane. Enjoy the scenic coasts of Ireland.

I’m with you, minus the sister thing of course, maybe an anoying dog of some form instead, or a smelly rat

@Rayndog
I’ve heard worse, thanks for playing. Your sis-con license is in the mail as is your wife beater. Please specify your location with Lulu’s newly created Dumbfuckistan.
So sad to see that so many are taking the side of Lulu as he beats poor defenseless C2…

Drugzaku getting beat up is fun to watch to bad the only reason he is not fighting back is bec he felt sorry for what he almost did last ep

Psycho Nina finally puts the bomb on Lancelot worst of all Bombzaku even knows its a weapon to his merit he does not know what type weapon it is oh yes why not try it out and find out i can almost smell the “living hell” event

@Calawain
The magazine preview cam out this week for ep 18 to 20 pretty much collaborates some of what was written on the “Korean spoiler” looks like the sked is

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@Crusader

LOL Why do you keep saying Lelouch “beat” CC? He slapped her once and he didn’t even hit HER, he hit a plate and then he quickly realized his mistake and went to her aid. It was obviously an emotional outburst but it’s not like he was standing over her with his fists clenched beating her face in. Lelouch’s hand never physically touched CC’s body! That does not qualify as beating!

I’ve included the definition of beat below for your quick reference

beat Audio Help /bit/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[beet] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, beat, beat·en or beat, beat·ing, noun, adjective
–verb (used with object)
1. to strike violently or forcefully and repeatedly

The keyword being repeatedly.

Lashing out at someone, accidentally, is not the same as beating. Please see the above-listed definition.

@Crusader
@Halcyon
1. Because I can
2. Your nitpicking and have clearly missed the point of a drunken rant

LOL I think we’ve all gotten the point that you hate Lelouch with a burning passion, regardless of CONTEXT
3. It’s not what happened that is important is is what a jury will believe. Sorry but violently slapping your kidnapped medieval peasant girl is still a matter that the police are called upon to intervene. I saw blood and I saw C2 fly across the room hitting the floor with significant force. Sorry but the “I was only angry and it was an accident” bullshit will not get an offender off scott free in most of the free world. However Since you love this universe so much I suppose you are right beating women is perfectly in line with Eleven moral values not quite unlike those of the original Area 11.

It’s not what you believe, it’s what you can prove in court. Without evidence, you cannot secure a conviction. The “blood” that you’re speaking about was a small thin, papercut on her ring finger. That’s not enough to get anyone convicted of Assault.

As someone who has been the victim of assault and gone to an Assistant District Attorney to press my case, no prosecutor in a court of law could make the case that C.C. was abused. Trust me, I know from experience. And what I suffered, personally, was far more damage than what C.C. got.

4. Clearly you are a supporter of hitting women while under the influence of emotions. I know that the lulution supports such such things as part of Lulu’s new family program where the old way of treating women and running a family are the norm in Dumbfuckistan. I tell you that one slap is more than enough to get a man arrested for the night, you are more than welcome to try and slap your wife and let her call the cops just to be sure.

I’m a supporter of facts, logic and context. One slap will not get you arrested, unless there is a mark left behind. I can guarantee you, from experience, that without PHYSICAL EVIDENCE in the form of a mark or bruise no charges can be pressed.

5. I don’t care about your semantics or Lulu’s excuses. Sorry but your bullshit would still get you arrested. Sorry thanks for playing though I am sure the officer of the law who has to baby sit you after you hit your woman will be most amused at your pathetic pleas of innocence, as she trembles in fear at your mere shadow.

It’s not “Semantics”. It’s fact. You misused a word to blow the situation out of proportion. I clearly listed the definition for you!

Not without proof or evidence. You can slap as many people as you want as long as there is no evidence or witnesses to corroborate said case. If you slap a woman, it’s her word against yours, unless she has a mark. Then there’s proof that an assault occurred. IF THERE IS NO PROOF, THERE IS NO CRIME. Believe me, I’ve gone through this many, many times in court. Heresay, does not get someone arrested. There’s this little thing you may not know of called “probable cause” which is the basis for all arrests. Without “probable cause”, you cannot arrest someone, legally.

Now if you need further help, I’d be happy to list the legal definition of First and Second Degree Assault for you as well. =P

6. You lose. Good Day.

lol When it comes to Law, I never lose.

@Crusader
Excellent choice of songs, any chance we’ll see a yuri version?

@Halcyon: lol, so as long as I do it smartly, I can whack you over the head with my cousin’s hockey stick as often as I like, and nothing will happen to me? Alright then

Also, I’m so looking forward to hail Dumbfuckistan and it’s King, the terrorist Lulu, who has decided that walking in the shoes of Chag Wufei is a good idea, for some reason I can’t quite fathom xD
Not.
All hail Brittania!

C.C is so moe :/ !

Man, Halycon by his defintions is receiving a beating and hes just standing back up and asking to be hit again.

Facts are that Lulu could of easily hurt C.C. when he swung at her because he wasn’t aiming and he did do it with alot of force. The fact that she didn’t sustain a heavy injury really doesn’t excuse it. C.C. at her current present state has alot of emotional scars, at the start of the episode she would recoil in fear just from Lulu walking in her direction. Backtrack like 15 minutes back in the episode and you will see Lulu promise to “never hurt her”, so there goes any trust she would be able to develop in him as his promise really won’t last the day’s length. In alot of ways just the very act of aggression in her direction caused about as much damage as if he had physically connected because it caused the emotional damage and subjugation of her spirit, rousing a fear that hits her to her core.

When I heard Christian Bale was recently arrested in London for assaulting his mother and sister I thought it was rather serious and of course it made all the headlines. That was till I heard it turned out to be an accusation of “verbal assault”. Lawsuits go out all the time claiming “emotional trauma” and “mental anguish”. As silly as the Bale one would be to most logical people, abuse and assault isn’t limited to only physical, there are damages that leave scars on the inside.

Linking Brittania to racism/naizism, thats quite overplayed and really very erroneous. Brittania rewards strength and is just an issue of survival of the fittest and offers Citizenship access. Calling the conquered Japanese elevens isn’t very different from how Americans treated the Japanese in interment camps during WWII. The prevailing prejudice displayed isn’t racism or sexism but rather an issue of class, something that is experienced in every single sort of organization in every single part of the world.

Lulu;s little UFN is probably worse and has closer ties to Naizism. He who controls the military controls the power, that list that was displayed with positions for the Black Knights was the list of his ruling royal family in the UFN, mostly made up of Japanese and the Chinese generals. Just like Hitler advocated blonde hair and blue eyes while he himself had dark eyes and dark hair, Lulu is a Brittanian advocating war on Brittanians. That is why at the end of the episode he realizes just how truly alone he is. Like Hitler, Lulu’s greatest strength is as an Orator as he rouses his mob to begin a war while he thinks that “Dad is gone its safe”, quickly to recoil in fear upon seeing Charles on the big screen, to go emo and bring harm to C.C.

@Zanshun

oh man, looks like I’m going to have to correct some more mischaracterizations.

Facts are that Lulu could of easily hurt C.C. when he swung at her because he wasn’t aiming and he did do it with alot of force. The fact that she didn’t sustain a heavy injury really doesn’t excuse it. C.C. at her current present state has alot of emotional scars, at the start of the episode she would recoil in fear just from Lulu walking in her direction.

That makes Lelouch an asshole, not a “woman beater”. Please read and recognize the crux of the argument before you engage. You know what they say about “assumptions”, don’t you?

Backtrack like 15 minutes back in the episode and you will see Lulu promise to “never hurt her”, so there goes any trust she would be able to develop in him as his promise really won’t last the day’s length.

Her trust will be regained when C.C. gets her memories back.
/end debate

C2 as she is now, is just a shell of her former self. If you watched the entire episode, you’ll realize that C2 admitted she’s gotten far worse previously and in comparison what Lelouch -accidentally- did was really nothing.

And again, if you look at the ENTIRE episode, instead of the convenient little cherries here and there, Lelouch has been taking care of C2 ever since she lost her memories. Even ordering her favourite food for her and trying to care for her as best as he could.

In alot of ways just the very act of aggression in her direction caused about as much damage as if he had physically connected because it caused the emotional damage and subjugation of her spirit, rousing a fear that hits her to her core.

This is almost too laughable to respond to. There are so many misconceptions and distortions here, I wouldn’t even know where to begin.

Again, rewatch the ENTIRE episode, especially the part AFTER he breaks the dish and see if C2 is “cowering in fear” after Lelouch applies the bandaid to her ZOMG PAPERCUTZ injury.

When I heard Christian Bale was recently arrested in London for assaulting his mother and sister I thought it was rather serious and of course it made all the headlines. That was till I heard it turned out to be an accusation of “verbal assault”. Lawsuits go out all the time claiming “emotional trauma” and “mental anguish”. As silly as the Bale one would be to most logical people, abuse and assault isn’t limited to only physical, there are damages that leave scars on the inside.

Funny, how people automatically assumed Bale physically assault his own mother without any shred of evidence. That, right there, only illustrates your own personal bias’.

The man had done nothing legally wrong but was crucified by the media and in blogs as a monster before the facts of the case were even established.

Evidence, lads, before opinion. Not the other way around. I, unlike many of you, withhold my judgment of individuals and events until the full facts are displayed in the proper context.

Knee-jerk emotional reactions (like what many of you are guilty of) will only lead to the downfall of an orderly civilized society built upon rational, objective, logical processes.

Linking Brittania to racism/naizism, thats quite overplayed and really very erroneous. Brittania rewards strength and is just an issue of survival of the fittest and offers Citizenship access.

Apparently, you missed the episode where Emperor Charles’ espoused a country built on social darwinism, which, if you’ve paid attention in history class is what many of Nazi Germany’s propoganda machine were advocating at the time.

Lulu;s little UFN is probably worse and has closer ties to Naizism.

lol wut? This can’t possibly be serious. A coalition of willing countries with autonomous governments is similar to a fascist government built on racism and systematic genocide? Are you serious?

He who controls the military controls the power, that list that was displayed with positions for the Black Knights was the list of his ruling royal family in the UFN, mostly made up of Japanese and the Chinese generals.

Or, you know, mostly made up of people who were IN the Black Knights. The only non-asian in the BK are Lelouch himself, and Laksharta and her team. Additionally, the reason WHY Lelouch has been given military authority is because HE IS THE ONLY ONE who has won decisive victories against Britannia. Who ELSE would they give military control over to? The EU? Which as lost half of its territories? The Chinese Federation? Which almost lost half of its territories? Or the Australians? Whose awesome army of kangaroos and koalas poses a major threat to the Britannian hegemony.

The only person who can stand up to Britannia is Lelouch. If you can’t see that by now, you need to rewatch Seasons 1 and 2.

Just like Hitler advocated blonde hair and blue eyes while he himself had dark eyes and dark hair, Lulu is a Brittanian advocating war on Brittanians.

How does that even make sense? Did you conveniently forget that the resistance forces Lelouch now controls (as the Black Knights) were already fighting against Britannia before he took control? Did you forget that the EU was ALREADY FIGHTING A WAR against Britannia and has lost half of its territories? Did you forget that in Season 1, the Chinese Federation, supported the JLF (a terrorist group) in attempting a Coup d’etat in Japan?

Are you seriously just not paying attention?
Did you also, similarly, not pay attention when Charles basically challenged Lelouch to fight against him on the JUMBO screen TV?

What show are you watching?

That is why at the end of the episode he realizes just how truly alone he is.

It’s his destiny to be alone. C.C. stated that in episode one. And, if you count C.C., he’s not really “alone”.

Like Hitler, Lulu’s greatest strength is as an Orator as he rouses his mob to begin a war while he thinks that “Dad is gone its safe”, quickly to recoil in fear upon seeing Charles on the big screen, to go emo and bring harm to C.C.

Lelouch’s greatest strength is as a strategist, which is why he was winning battles against the likes of Cornelia and exterminating the Geass Cult. He is a talented orator that can inspire but that’s not his ‘greatest strength’. Words alone do not win battles or wars. As for “recoiling in fear”, of course he would. His greatest threat, someone who is IMMORTAL and IMMUNE to Geass is now back in the picture. Not only that, but he holds control of Nunnally and now knows that Lelouch is Zero.

Lelouch is at a serious disadvantage against Charles and he knows it, which is why the first thing you see is Lelouch trying to come up with different strategies to disable Charles at the end of the episode. His frustration at Nunnally now being in danger and his inability to save her is what caused him to lash out at C.C. Lelouch is cornered and he knows it. Suzaku is his last hope for protecting Nunnally, now that Charles has re-emerged from the Thought Elevator.

Simple Logic, lads.

Let me re-iterate, I don’t approve of Lelouch taking his anger out on C.C., especially when she’s all Moe, Moe but what he did does NOT constitute “woman beating”.

Fix your logic, then get back to me.
In summation, Yes I agree Lelouch is an asshole. No, I disagree that he’s a woman beater.

If you can come up with another instance of him pounding a female in Geass, feel free to launch a counterattack on my flawless impregnable defense.

@Crusader

It’s not gender bias its about separating two supposed adults form doing something they might regret, that’s why you do not try and fight the cops when they come.

It’s gender-bias when you automatically assume a woman is more believable or credible simply because of her gender.

If a woman accusses a man of rape, no one will question the woman’s credibility or ask for evidence. Generally, people will assume the man is a rapist until he can prove himself innocent by some means. That is gender-based discrimination and it happens all too often that solely by their gender, women are given a ‘pass’ on having to produce evidence of a crime.

Most wife beaters do resist arrest instead of going along quietly hence the get arrested though the charges may later be dropped for abuse but not for disrespecting an officer of the law.

That’s a separate issue. Resisting arrest is usually an additional compiled charge on top of what they’re originally getting arrested for. If they have nothing to arrest you for to begin with (i.e. no probable cause for assault) then they can’t get you for resisting either.

Much as you would like to have evidence come first that is not always the case and the ideal will never become reality for humans are prone to sympathies.

Evidence HAS to come first. That’s the law. An officer is only able to detain a suspect for up to 24 hours, but the officer would still need probable cause to justify the arrest, otherwise you and your department are civilly liable for a wrongful arrest lawsuit. And that’s the last thing any municipality wants.

Cops have seen husbands destroy their families and to be honest they do what they can to avert such tragedies. Question is whether or not you would allow it to escalate to the point that the next set of evidence is a beaten corpse?

Like I said before, how do you KNOW a woman is being truthful when making an accusation and just not trying to screw some guy over without having at least SOME facts first? Without evidence, how can I, as an individual, know that a person or family is in danger? I can’t just assume based upon my own experience that a person is in physical danger without examining the facts first.

I’ll let you in on a little secret, it’s exactly those kinds of police officers which are responsible for shooting a groom 46 times on the day before his wedding, simply because they went on their “gut instincts” without confirming the facts first.

There are tons of cases, here alone, where police officers are responsible for wrongful deaths and families have been destroyed because they didn’t THINK before they acted. In making any intelligent decision in life, you have to evaluate the situation first, judge based on the facts and then make a determination.

I, myself, was once a candidate for the police academy and let me tell you, there are strict and thorough guidelines that dictate what police officers are allowed to do in various situations. Their ability to make judgments in the field is severely limited to the scope of department approved procedure. Acting outside of procedure or without justification makes you both criminally and civilly liable.

Hey have fun its pretty much a pointless cause Halcyon is the resident Lulu apologist with evasive cunning of a lawyer.

I take that as a compliment

Additionally, I don’t grant Lelouch immunity for his actions but dammit, someone has to defend the defenseless against baseless accusations! I think Lelouch is as much of an asshole as everyone else, but someone has to provide a counterbalance to all the vitriol Lelouch endures on the internet and frankly, from what I’ve seen on other boards, I do it as good or better than most

As for the charge of woman beating, If the definition doesn’t fit, you must acquit!

Halcyon and Crusader- While it’s kind of amusing to a degree watching you guys write essays back and forth, you may want to exchange IM info or phone numbers and just go out on a date already.

@Crusader

Halcyon is a dude…

So am I. And there is still two “i”s in the name.

Citing all Hannibal? Try some diversity. Hannibal couldn’t strategize his way out of a paper bag. He probably liked artillery too… (fool).

@Crusader

Just because we can’t charge a person with the suspected crime does not mean we cannot find justice through other means. Al Capone was able to evade arrest precisely because he could afford the lawyers who knew how to skirt the law.

Al Capone avoided arrest not because of his lawyers. He avoided arrest because he had judges and policemen on his payroll. Not to mention most of the witnesses against him either recanted their testimony or met an untimely end.

We got him for tax evasion, not murder, not extortion, not racketeering, and not for violating prohibition.

And a damned lucky break that was too. If Eliot Ness hadn’t gotten the EVIDENCE, which was the journal ledgers reporting Capone’s actual income, versus his stated income on his taxes, he would’ve never been convicted.

No matter what crime you’re charged with, you’re going to need EVIDENCE to secure a conviction.

Just because we cannot prove a man beat his wife does not mean we cannot make an arrest for assaulting an officer of the law.

He has to assault an officer FIRST before he can be arrested for assault. You can’t just make up a charge of “assaulting an officer” just because you think the guy is a wife-beater. Once again, you’d need probable cause.

Same with O.J. Simpson you seem to hold evidence up to high standards that is fine however again the best evidence can be subverted by the same slimy lawyerly interpretation that you so often use.

Our justice system doesn’t work without evidence. Without evidence, we might as well be living in Iran.

All to often those who can afford to subvert the law can. You seem to be green with this issue as tragic as things may turn out a police officer has one of the toughest jobs out there he/she has put their life on the line and play by rules of engagement that would make sane people gag.

I’m not green on the issue. I worked in Corrections for 4 years. While a police officer gets to deal with criminals, he gets generally gets a break. Those of us who have the unfortunate task of working in a correctional facility get to deal with the worst criminals, child rapists and murderers for 8 to 16 hours a day, depending on shifts. You want to know about tough jobs? Try separating a few 200lb+ guys running a train on a new inmate during the first week of orientation.

You don’t need to break the law in order to protect people, you see you automatically assume that force is always used. If you had been in the field long enough you would know the tricks of the trade to stay on the right side of the law and still protect and serve.

Any “trick” that evades the legal process is nothing more than an elaborate play at vigilantism, which according to you, you do not support.

You only saw what they taught you in the class room that is fine, but out there the rules become more elastic most cops worth their salt are smarter than you think, they can be quite cunning. Probable cause can be flexible given the right conditions.

Flexibility is limited according to police procedure. This is to limit the amount of lawsuits cities and police departments have to face. Also for the officer’s own safety as more often than not, their jobs and livelihoods are at stake when they commit to an action that is not within the scope of their duty.

The last thing you want is Internal Affairs digging into your cases because you used questionable methods to secure an arrest.

In Lulu’s case it was clear that he swung with great force and great anger, the two would have needed to be separated at that point regardless of physical contact due to a potentially hostile environment.

C2 was in no danger, as evidence by her docile demeanor immediately following Lelouch’s act. Lelouch applied a band-aid and all was good.

In a real-life situation, if that were to occur, C2 would’ve told the cops that everything was fine and the police would’ve gone home with nary a worry.

Remember, C2 is a slave and she’s used to worse treatment than that. The fact that Lelouch shows great care in tending to her afterwards is more than she could’ve ever hoped for or imagined for in her previous life. Lelouch has promised “never to hurt her” and has even offered her pizza.
For an abused slave, she’s getting really good treatment and without Lelouch to take care of her, where would she go? Remember also, she’s wanted by Britannia. As soon as she steps out of Black Knight territory she’d be in a padded cell getting poked and prodded by Nina and/or some other mad scientist.

IMO, Lelouch didn’t “hit” (I use hit in quotations because he never actually made contact with any part of C2’s body) her out of malice. He struck out without thinking. Yes, it was wrong but it doesn’t make him a “woman beater” for lashing out during an emotional low point. Especially since he has never struck C2 before and has gone out of his way to show great concern for not only C2 but Kallen and Nunnally as well. AND, if the previews are correct, he doesn’t strike C2 after that either.

In this particular case, C2 would not have pressed charges against Lelouch and with only a small bandaid covering her finger, the police would have no justification to assume that Lelouch was a further threat to C2s safety and security.

Judging by the level of fear any officer would have been justified in separating Lulu from C2, if Lulu resists then he is liable for arrest. Lulu can try and file a civil suit if he wants, but he will have to pay for the lawyer and make his case to a jury of his peers. Let’s be honest now an officer’s testimony is still pretty powerful in the event that there is an accused criminal whose victim trembles so much at the very sight of him. Again in my experience it is what a jury will believe, so tell me if you were asked to decide a case between a man who swung with enough force to break a plate and send a woman flying and the testimony of a woman visibly frightened by the defendant who would you believe? Honestly if it weren’t Lulu you’d probably ding the guy who was doing the swinging. For you see not all people behave logically human history has proved that time and again. Is it fair? No but it is about as fair as we can get. The letter of the law is not important its how you can interpret it.

See above.

@Calawain
I thought you’d be happy! Between myself and Crusader, we’re definitely boosting you up and above the ranks in July’s Battle Royale
After Code Geass ends, we’re going to need a new battlefield to settle the score!!!!

“Crusader, I love you like the little sister I never had,”

xcuseme is there any way to erase that sentence from my brain…

@Halcyon
The events of what happened will be decided by a jury, all the cops can do is produce evidence of what was left over at the scene. It is possible to argue that the cops got there just in time before things escalated. Was there too much bleeding was there too little, is for a jury to decide, however given how this was still a fight the two must be separated. I never said that this was the sole basis for hauling Lulu off, but you would be surprised at how hostile people can get at the mere suggestion that they might get arrested. There was a fight of some sort and given how one is a moe blob that can barely defend herself and the other is a strapping lad who smashes dinner plates in anger when the cause of his anger is certainly not the one he struck this is not exactly a peaceful environment. Is it hostile? We’ll let a jury decide that but in the immediate aftermath isolating the two would be ideal and in some counties standard operating procedure. Sure there will be some paper work but if it really was nothing they can file a complaint if they wish, if they want to file a civil suit it will have to be of some merit so the judge will not just throw it out. The judicial system is overburdened as it already is so there is a very good chance that such a complaint will be found without merit unless the accuser can immediately demonstrate that he/she was traumatized by the police for answering a call.

However if there was something more then things get interesting. The most a cop would get even if he/she were found to be in error is a reprimand, the cop would have been well intentioned but a bit of a fatalist. The two can be separated but the DA might not take the case, what was important was that things were not allowed to escalate. Would Lulu have hurt her again? That is for a jury to decide, all the cops would have done was force them apart for 24 hours until cooler heads could prevail, that is more routine than you think. In my experience it was better to just write the report rather than have to go back out again. More over the longer the cops are around the more aggravated the wife beater gets, again the slip up is not when the cops arrive but after the suspect’s patience has run out and then he does something stupid. Here’s what you fail to understand people make mistakes under pressure they make mistakes and lose their cool. If you can keep your cool the cops will usually leave with out much fuss, but when a wife beater starts arguing with a cop over the mere possibility of separation things get heated.

Again even when following procedure suspects do not always cooperate nor do they take their right to remain silent and calm. We don’t have to haul off C2 we can haul off Lulu if he gets too combative during the investigation. Again you would be surprised to find how few people can keep their cool when cops are around, suspects get defensive too quickly and though they have the right to remain silent they often waive those rights.

Beyond a reasonable doubt is a funny thing, the LAPD was sloppy but O.J. guilt was not beyond a reasonable doubt. There is always the possibility that he did not commit the crime and that some who the stars aligned and the evidence all pointed to him. Evidence is never perfect, you make do with what you have. Also the dangers of being a cop vary with the jurisdiction. Being a cop in a suburb is fair uneventful, but not so with the inner city.

Let’s not forget this C2 is basically a blank slate who is not immortal anymore. It’s like C2 became retarded overnight, and you aren’t supposed to abuse such people.

@Halcyon
Thus proving that Lulu is a criminal. Next time sunrise needs to up the cool factor when lulu breaks the law and gets away with it like O.J.

Something like this would do:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=OYn5hxeFt10

The LAPD had to change procedure, but that was too little too late to prevent the media circus and letting O.J. escape. Even now we all know he did it and he’s laughing it up somewhere because there is no double jeopardy. God looking at the news broadcasts again I hope those O.J. is innocent people get a falcon punch to their natches.

I don’t know it was heavily implied that C2 did get her wish and Charles took her immortality. Do do hope there will be an experiment where she gets shot in the head again by Lulu the Just.

@Crusader
Thus proving that Lulu is a criminal. Next time sunrise needs to up the cool factor when lulu breaks the law and gets away with it like O.J.

We already know Lelouch is a criminal. He murdered Clovis in Season 1. But he isn’t a woman beater though!

The LAPD had to change procedure, but that was too little too late to prevent the media circus and letting O.J. escape. Even now we all know he did it and he’s laughing it up somewhere because there is no double jeopardy. God looking at the news broadcasts again I hope those O.J. is innocent people get a falcon punch to their natches.

They f*cked up. Plain and simple. Buncha morons. I hope they all got fired or demoted.

I don’t know it was heavily implied that C2 did get her wish and Charles took her immortality.

Hm idk. Didn’t Charles already take V2’s Code? Are you allowed to have 2 Codes? That wouldn’t make sense.

Do do hope there will be an experiment where she gets shot in the head again by Lulu the Just.

Lelouch would never kill her because then he’d be TRULY alone. He needs her to hold onto his humanity.

Suzaku on the other hand, has no ties to C2 and wouldn’t bat an eyelash at blowing her away.

@Zanshun

I can’t wait to see your posts when Episode 20 airs. I want to see what back-pedaling, moral-relativist excuse you’ll have then!!

Best believe I’ll be one of the first people replying when Calawain makes his entry ready to make all of you eat crow for your moral hypocrisy.

XD

@Halcyon, re: Zanshun

Suzaku covered all possible eventualities when Lelouch asked him if the Tokyo Settlement stood to be in danger. He said that was Lulu’s call to make, nobody elses. And indeed it is.

BTW? Seriously, by what messed up standard wasn’t that an act of domestic violence?

@jack

Suzaku covered all possible eventualities when Lelouch asked him if the Tokyo Settlement stood to be in danger. He said that was Lulu’s call to make, nobody elses. And indeed it is.

Yeah, I’d trust someone who killed his own father in cold blood and then forgot about it.

Totally trustworthy, that murdering Suzaku.

BTW? Seriously, by what messed up standard wasn’t that an act of domestic violence?

Papercut, Accident, Recompense.

@Crusader
It’s the LAPD what do you think happened…

The police are supposed to be professionals -_-

Also giving her code to Charles was part of C2’s plans as to being successful…

There’s no confirmation whether or not Charles received C2’s Code. That’s just an assumption people make because C2 doesn’t have her Code.

Fact is, we don’t know what happened to C2’s code. Sunrise has not revealed that information.

Leave it be comrade Halcyon is going to be the next Johnnie Cochran. For the right price he will bury the court with half truths and rhyming bull shit.
Next time we shall see Halcyon argue that Li is not a pedo and that Char was not into nubile young teenagers.

I told you, when it comes to law… ZETTAI ZETTAI MAKENAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Li’s not a loli because Sunrise hasn’t given Tianzi’s official age! There are lots of loli characters that are older than they look Ex: Miyu from They are My Noble Masters is over 20 years old but LOOKS like a loli.

And who isn’t into nubile young teenagers? I hope to be into nubile young teenagers well into my 80s, god willing!

@Crusader
Posting twice are we? I am deleting one since they are the same.

Gomen gomen. I hit enter twice because my post didn’t show up after I entered it the first time. Usually when I enter a post it shows up and allows me to edit it (within the 15 min time limit). For some reason, this time, my post wasn’t displayed. TBH, I wasn’t sure my post was going to go through after the 2nd time I posted it.

Papercut Shrapnel wound,

Shrapnel wound? Aren’t you being a tad melodramatic?

Shrapnel is the term originally applied to an anti-personnel artillery shell which carried a large number of individual bullets to the target and then ejected them forwards. Today the term is commonly used to describe the metal fragments and debris thrown out by any exploding object, be it a high explosive (HE) filled shell or a homemade bomb wrapped with nails or steel balls.

Under the above definition, a fragment of a broken plate does not qualify as a piece of “shrapnel”.

But feel free to try again!

accident assault,

Generally, the essential elements of assault consist of an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim.

Intent is an essential element of assault. In tort law, it can be specific intent—if the assailant intends to cause the apprehension of harmful or offensive contact in the victim—or general intent—if he or she intends to do the act that causes such apprehension. In addition, the intent element is satisfied if it is substantially certain, to a reasonable person, that the act will cause the result. A defendant who holds a gun to a victim’s head possesses the requisite intent, since it is substantially certain that this act will produce an apprehension in the victim. In all cases, intent to kill or harm is irrelevant.

In criminal law, the attempted battery type of assault requires a Specific Intent to commit battery. An intent to frighten will not suffice for this form of assault.

Under the above-posted definition (and I KNEW I would have to list it for you *sigh*), in order for it to be classified as assault there must be “intent” on the part of the assailant.

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