The reason to hate on Suzaku is that he isn’t a stable character. He’s awesome to watch, for some, but he’s not realistic. If he wants to thwart Lelouch’s plans simply because he thinks Lelouch is an idealist nut, then by all means go ahead. Whoever’s side you pick is simply an opinion, so it doesn’t matter. Instead, he claims to be righteous, but also striving to help Japan, and uses underhanded ways to achieve this, making him a hypocrite. If it’s possible to question people’s faith in Lelouch, then it’s seriously also possible to question one’s faith in Suzaku. Does he really believe he can just rise to the top and save everyone? He wants to make peace with both Britannia AND Japan. All on his own. Isn’t he a bit of an idealist himself?

Basically, this whole series is based on hope and ideals, and whichever side you pick, the other is your enemy. There’s only a slight tip of the scale. I think Lelouch-supporters either prefer the idea of rebellion and violence (and not to get politcal, I think we’re all aware that this is a FICTIONAL STORY), or fall prey to the fact that the story is generally presented from Lelouch’s point of view, making him seem like “the good guy”.

Don’t hate; just my two cents.

1st season was the very evidence we need: once Zero was gone from the battlefield, his “comrades” gave up and lost.

People keep hating on Suzaku, and I will never understand that. Look at that whore Karen, she is being used by Lelouch and she does not have her own opinion, she is weak, naive and stupid. And so, even though she keeps fighting for her country’s “freedom” which will never be achieved, she is more pathetic than Suzaku.
Suzaku used Nunally. Oh NOOOOOES, HOW COULD HE USE A CRIPPLED, BLIND GIRL!!! POOR THING! AWWW…It’s not like Nunally minds apparently. She seemed fine to me, sitting in the middle of some fancy garden. As far as I remember, Lelouch was ready to kill his siblings with no hesitation. F***, he manipulates every single person out there - a Japanese, a Britannian, he does not care. Isn’t it pathetic and retarded? And all I see in Lelouch is revenge. All he wants is to avenge his mother’s death, and he is ready to use anyone to achieve that.

As I said, Tamaki couldn’t help but respond to that - she probably just gave him a small smile and he felt compelled, or was eager, to offer her a dance. Lulu needs to take lessons in blackmail from her; the way he approached Viletta could’ve been finessed a lot more if he’d been able to pull tricks from Millay’s book.

Kanokon episode 5 actually had significantly less fanservice than the other episodes this season, especially 1-3.

@Bianktia

Next week looks to fulfill all of your desires. Lloyd and Cecile, as well as plenty of NPCs guaranteed to be kicking the bucket in combat episodes.

@Natasha

Plot device? I mean Suzaku is pretty oblivious to the real workings of the world if all of this is to be believed. But these types of characters are par for the course in Sunrise shows, they drive the plot. I mean, I hate Spinzaku with a fiery passion, but the plot wouldn’t be as interesting without him. I suppose you need someone to hate and generate rants like my own =) Makes rooting for Lelouch much much easier.

@Haesslich

Yeah she does have the onee-sama/ojou-sama vibe going on, I’ll grant that. I find those characters decent, but unless they are stumbling tsunderes like Takako from Otoboku they won’t rise to the top for me. And yes I was definitely surprised he pulled away from his skinship with Suzaku to dance with her.

@Zamses

Suzaku didn’t kill his father to save Lelouch and Nunally, he killed him because as Prime Minister of Japan he refused to surrender to Brittania. Suzaku wanted him to give up rather than adopt a do-or-die resistance. He does feel massively guilty over it, and for good reason. And his whole relationship with Euphie is both silly and screwed up, so I really try to avoid going into too much analysis of it. I gave my view in simple terms up with the episode commentary.

Natasha: See Quisling, Vidkun for a definition of what Suzaku’s doing.

–S: Hey Kallen, still want to resurect Japan regardless of means, probablity of ultimate success, or consequences?
–K: Yup.
–S: Congratulations, it’s yours. I’m going to be laughing at you from the corner here, but don’t read anything into that. On an unrelated note do you have life-insurance?

And I guess Episode 5 is the new fanservice episode in anime and not episode 8. All the episode 5’s I’ve seen this week seem to dish out the fanservice. Actually….well actually I’m not following To Love-Ru and Kanokon at all, but I assume it’s par for the course this week for those series.

Alright, I’ll buy that it was a box with C.C.’s cheese-kun, I shouldn’t put too much stock in what Rivalz says then :p

@Onizuka

Poor guy! His brilliant plan to save the Japanese people that he worked so hard on, why won’t they accept it and lavish love on him?!

@Caraniel

Yeah and that’s what makes Suzaku’s actions so bad, she’s a freaking crippled, blind girl that’s supposed to be his friend. How could you use such a sweet girl as your bait like that if you were supposed to be the good guy? Pretty disgusting.

Yay for C.C. getting her Cheese-kun back, I LOLd when Lulu chucked her into the tomatoes!

Quite like Gino - although too much of him may be irritating. He seems to be rather impulsive, something that may possibly interfer with Suzaku’s plans. Anya didnt make much of an impact and her recording of things reminds me of Ritsuka from Loveless! :p

I can’t believe that Suzaku has sunk to the level of using Nunally as a pawn in his revenge on Lulu for getting the Pretty Pink Princess killed - thats just low. Nunally has done nothing to warrant being used in such a manner.

Looking forward to the next few eps, can’t wait to see Loyd back on screen. Nina is due for a comeback too I’d say, want to see just how nuts she really is! Psycho-Rolo needs to comeback - this watery emotional version is not fun.