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		<title>By: Lupus</title>
		<link>http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/04/03/anime-review-dennou-coil/#comment-204292</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>– Wow - what an ignorant comment. Believe me; these physical and mental abuses happen all the time, even more so in developed Asian countries , where competition is fierce - this series is not exaggerated at all.

What I was referring to is the life and death situations that Haraken, Yasako and Isako found themselves in towards the end of the series.  I know full well what Asian primary school students are like - I grew up in Hong Kong, where the competition is as fierce as anywhere else in the world.

– Didn’t work? What do you mean? Are you suggesting that young people cannot break down after being wallowed up in isolation, sadness, and/or hate for several years? Do you not know the three stages of aftereffects after someone you deeply care for dies?

I did write that the breakdown scene of Isako was one scene that DID work for me.  What I can't take seriously is seeing these kids in situations where their lives are threatened, situations they are very often put into by a 17 year old whose motives I find cannot possibly justify the kind of insane actions he's taking.  Or how they can act the way they did in the face of death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>– Wow - what an ignorant comment. Believe me; these physical and mental abuses happen all the time, even more so in developed Asian countries , where competition is fierce - this series is not exaggerated at all.</p>
<p>What I was referring to is the life and death situations that Haraken, Yasako and Isako found themselves in towards the end of the series.  I know full well what Asian primary school students are like - I grew up in Hong Kong, where the competition is as fierce as anywhere else in the world.</p>
<p>– Didn’t work? What do you mean? Are you suggesting that young people cannot break down after being wallowed up in isolation, sadness, and/or hate for several years? Do you not know the three stages of aftereffects after someone you deeply care for dies?</p>
<p>I did write that the breakdown scene of Isako was one scene that DID work for me.  What I can&#8217;t take seriously is seeing these kids in situations where their lives are threatened, situations they are very often put into by a 17 year old whose motives I find cannot possibly justify the kind of insane actions he&#8217;s taking.  Or how they can act the way they did in the face of death.</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lupus: It was still well written, but I just can’t get over how primary school kids are having these kind of struggles.

-- Wow - what an ignorant comment. Believe me; these physical and mental abuses happen all the time, even more so in developed Asian countries , where competition is fierce - this series is not exaggerated at all


Lupus: Yet a lot of the other dramatic moments just didn’t work. Not when Yasako spent a whole episode pondering the meaning of reality after Densuke’s death, not when Isako struggled to come to grip with her betrayal...

-- Didn't work? What do you mean? Are you suggesting that young people cannot break down after being wallowed up in isolation, sadness, and/or hate for several years? Do you not know the three stages of aftereffects after someone you deeply care for dies?

Lupus: "It’s probably my pre-conceived bias of how primary school kids should act. Daisuke and Fumie are the common primary school kids I expected, and I failed to come to grip with Isako’s and Yasako’s actions and reactions."

-- Wow, you must have went to an elementary school where everyone acted bratty. There are lots of children like Yasako and Isako. Actually, even Fumie has an ambition that many children don't have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lupus: It was still well written, but I just can’t get over how primary school kids are having these kind of struggles.</p>
<p>&#8211; Wow - what an ignorant comment. Believe me; these physical and mental abuses happen all the time, even more so in developed Asian countries , where competition is fierce - this series is not exaggerated at all</p>
<p>Lupus: Yet a lot of the other dramatic moments just didn’t work. Not when Yasako spent a whole episode pondering the meaning of reality after Densuke’s death, not when Isako struggled to come to grip with her betrayal&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8211; Didn&#8217;t work? What do you mean? Are you suggesting that young people cannot break down after being wallowed up in isolation, sadness, and/or hate for several years? Do you not know the three stages of aftereffects after someone you deeply care for dies?</p>
<p>Lupus: &#8220;It’s probably my pre-conceived bias of how primary school kids should act. Daisuke and Fumie are the common primary school kids I expected, and I failed to come to grip with Isako’s and Yasako’s actions and reactions.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; Wow, you must have went to an elementary school where everyone acted bratty. There are lots of children like Yasako and Isako. Actually, even Fumie has an ambition that many children don&#8217;t have.</p>
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		<title>By: Lupus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lupus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serial: Please take your thinly veiled insults elsewhere.

I appreciate all the comments which state why they disagree with me without feeling the need to insult me on top of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serial: Please take your thinly veiled insults elsewhere.</p>
<p>I appreciate all the comments which state why they disagree with me without feeling the need to insult me on top of that.</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
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		<dc:creator>asdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The light hearted tone of the first half of the series is thrown out the window and completely forgotten in exchange for some drama that feels completely wrong and out of place for primary school students. "

I think this series was trying to make a wake-up-call to young children, and to lift them from social ignorance: playing with something that looks harmless at first can transform into something deadly. There's nothing wrong and out-of-place with teaching serious materials to a young audience. The light-heartedness at the beginning was just to get children adjusted to the characters and the future environment/tech - nothing but fillers - and that's also what's interesting; not many series use this approach. Once the young audiences get adjusted, the series transfers to a more didactic and dark tone. I think many children, both older and younger, can learn and enjoy this series at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The light hearted tone of the first half of the series is thrown out the window and completely forgotten in exchange for some drama that feels completely wrong and out of place for primary school students. &#8221;</p>
<p>I think this series was trying to make a wake-up-call to young children, and to lift them from social ignorance: playing with something that looks harmless at first can transform into something deadly. There&#8217;s nothing wrong and out-of-place with teaching serious materials to a young audience. The light-heartedness at the beginning was just to get children adjusted to the characters and the future environment/tech - nothing but fillers - and that&#8217;s also what&#8217;s interesting; not many series use this approach. Once the young audiences get adjusted, the series transfers to a more didactic and dark tone. I think many children, both older and younger, can learn and enjoy this series at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Calaveth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calaveth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about the middle episodes being both weak and pointless, and I agree about the sketchy development of the bad guys, but I never felt that it seriously detracted from the overall story. That it started out innocent and got considerably darker as the end drew closer seemed to me like a natural progression. I enjoyed Denno Coil immensely, one of my favorite shows of 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the middle episodes being both weak and pointless, and I agree about the sketchy development of the bad guys, but I never felt that it seriously detracted from the overall story. That it started out innocent and got considerably darker as the end drew closer seemed to me like a natural progression. I enjoyed Denno Coil immensely, one of my favorite shows of 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: AreNagato</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I'm not sure what's going on, but hopefully my IP at school isn't blacklisted...
THAT has been eating my comments lately - I've sent e-mails using the contact form as well as a formal e-mail; but I don't know if anyone checks those.
I hope someone can look into this, thanks. =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;m not sure what&#8217;s going on, but hopefully my IP at school isn&#8217;t blacklisted&#8230;<br />
THAT has been eating my comments lately - I&#8217;ve sent e-mails using the contact form as well as a formal e-mail; but I don&#8217;t know if anyone checks those.<br />
I hope someone can look into this, thanks. =D</p>
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		<title>By: serial</title>
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		<dc:creator>serial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which makes me wonder why it won Tokyo Anime Fair's &lt;a href="http://www.tokyoanime.jp/blog/2008/02/25/133" rel="nofollow"&gt;TV Animation of the Year 2007 award&lt;/a&gt;, along with Gurren Lagann.

OH WAIT, it's because those pacing issues are &lt;i&gt;secondary&lt;/i&gt; in comparison with the great execution of the rest of the series. There's no perfect series, but there are some series that are cut above the rest in some areas. In Dennou Coil, many of the middle episodes help with the transition between the early, more playful episodes, and the latter, serious ones. The themes in those episodes range from the childish to the more serious, right before the final run that slowly begins to reveal all of the series' mysteries.
So, yes, in some people's eyes, this show might seem like a let down, but to people who know and appreciate a good mystery, this show is &lt;i&gt;solid gold&lt;/i&gt;, all around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which makes me wonder why it won Tokyo Anime Fair&#8217;s <a href="http://www.tokyoanime.jp/blog/2008/02/25/133" rel="nofollow">TV Animation of the Year 2007 award</a>, along with Gurren Lagann.</p>
<p>OH WAIT, it&#8217;s because those pacing issues are <i>secondary</i> in comparison with the great execution of the rest of the series. There&#8217;s no perfect series, but there are some series that are cut above the rest in some areas. In Dennou Coil, many of the middle episodes help with the transition between the early, more playful episodes, and the latter, serious ones. The themes in those episodes range from the childish to the more serious, right before the final run that slowly begins to reveal all of the series&#8217; mysteries.<br />
So, yes, in some people&#8217;s eyes, this show might seem like a let down, but to people who know and appreciate a good mystery, this show is <i>solid gold</i>, all around.</p>
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		<title>By: Lupus</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand how others would like the darker tone towards the end, but to me it all felt overly melodramatic.  It was still well written, but I just can't get over how primary school kids are having these kind of struggles.  

One particular moment that stood out was when Isako broke down at Yasako's home - this young girl, who has stood on the strength of her belief for so long, has finally lost it.  It was to me a very well written moment that made her more realistic to me, and I loved it. 

Yet a lot of the other dramatic moments just didn't work.  Not when Yasako spent a whole episode pondering the meaning of reality after Densuke's death, not when Isako struggled to come to grip with her betrayal (what was that whole scene at and after the empty hospital room?  What are we watching, some conspiracy theorist spy flick?); and, most importantly, when Michiko and Yasako fought over where Isako should go.  They didn't work at all.  At least, I couldn't take them seriously.

It's probably my pre-conceived bias of how primary school kids should act.  Daisuke and Fumie are the common primary school kids I expected, and I failed to come to grip with Isako's and Yasako's actions and reactions.  I expected Miyazaki, a journey of growth and realisation (which I suppose it is, seeing how the latter half dealt with how Isako came to grip with the death of the brother she relied on), but what I got was a whole lot more melodramatic than what I was prepared to deal with.

It needn't all be light-hearted, but I certainly did not expect life-or-death struggles involving vengeful and rogue computer AI, separation of body and soul/consciousness or a ruthless murderer seeking revenge for the wrong done to his dead father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand how others would like the darker tone towards the end, but to me it all felt overly melodramatic.  It was still well written, but I just can&#8217;t get over how primary school kids are having these kind of struggles.  </p>
<p>One particular moment that stood out was when Isako broke down at Yasako&#8217;s home - this young girl, who has stood on the strength of her belief for so long, has finally lost it.  It was to me a very well written moment that made her more realistic to me, and I loved it. </p>
<p>Yet a lot of the other dramatic moments just didn&#8217;t work.  Not when Yasako spent a whole episode pondering the meaning of reality after Densuke&#8217;s death, not when Isako struggled to come to grip with her betrayal (what was that whole scene at and after the empty hospital room?  What are we watching, some conspiracy theorist spy flick?); and, most importantly, when Michiko and Yasako fought over where Isako should go.  They didn&#8217;t work at all.  At least, I couldn&#8217;t take them seriously.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably my pre-conceived bias of how primary school kids should act.  Daisuke and Fumie are the common primary school kids I expected, and I failed to come to grip with Isako&#8217;s and Yasako&#8217;s actions and reactions.  I expected Miyazaki, a journey of growth and realisation (which I suppose it is, seeing how the latter half dealt with how Isako came to grip with the death of the brother she relied on), but what I got was a whole lot more melodramatic than what I was prepared to deal with.</p>
<p>It needn&#8217;t all be light-hearted, but I certainly did not expect life-or-death struggles involving vengeful and rogue computer AI, separation of body and soul/consciousness or a ruthless murderer seeking revenge for the wrong done to his dead father.</p>
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		<title>By: rieuzedx</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Dennou Coil, and one of the things I liked about it was how the second half got darker. Granted, I had a big "WTF" for the 3-4 odd episodes in the middle, but at least they were somewhat entertaining.  Was it my favorite anime, no...but I do think it deserves a lot more credit than you gave it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Dennou Coil, and one of the things I liked about it was how the second half got darker. Granted, I had a big &#8220;WTF&#8221; for the 3-4 odd episodes in the middle, but at least they were somewhat entertaining.  Was it my favorite anime, no&#8230;but I do think it deserves a lot more credit than you gave it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan A</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The few middle episodes aside, I always felt the looming seriousness as I plowed through the series in a single day. Considering the initial tone, I'm not sure DenCo would have went anywhere, had it stayed light-hearted. It most likely would have wound up open-ended slice-of-life, or tried to make conflict points out of the relationships established early on, which may have gained it wider acceptability, but the overall impact would have been weakened.

Personally, I thought the darkness gave the series a strong finish, but I can understand that it is can be a turn-off as well. ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The few middle episodes aside, I always felt the looming seriousness as I plowed through the series in a single day. Considering the initial tone, I&#8217;m not sure DenCo would have went anywhere, had it stayed light-hearted. It most likely would have wound up open-ended slice-of-life, or tried to make conflict points out of the relationships established early on, which may have gained it wider acceptability, but the overall impact would have been weakened.</p>
<p>Personally, I thought the darkness gave the series a strong finish, but I can understand that it is can be a turn-off as well. ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Siing</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree yet disagree at the same time. The 2nd half was definitely different to the 1st, but i don't think it was a bad change, in fact, it got totally awesome in the 2nd half. I could go on saying why, but I can't be bothered. Overall, Dennou Coil was a masterpiece, and my 2nd favorite anime of 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree yet disagree at the same time. The 2nd half was definitely different to the 1st, but i don&#8217;t think it was a bad change, in fact, it got totally awesome in the 2nd half. I could go on saying why, but I can&#8217;t be bothered. Overall, Dennou Coil was a masterpiece, and my 2nd favorite anime of 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: blissmo</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I can't say much about this since I couldn't stand watching the first few minutes ... I think it's cos the pictures didn't appeal to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I can&#8217;t say much about this since I couldn&#8217;t stand watching the first few minutes &#8230; I think it&#8217;s cos the pictures didn&#8217;t appeal to me.</p>
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		<title>By: nutcase23</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed. Hacker wars and facial hair warfare FTW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed. Hacker wars and facial hair warfare FTW!</p>
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