True Tears 7: Confessions
I don’t know what you’re conspiring either…
That was most impressive I could not but help to find Noe’s response to Shin-chan’s confessions to absolutely adorable. Now that the bomb shell has been dropped it was time for Noe to shine and Aiko to start the long awaited offensive. While Shin-chan is as clueless as ever Nobuse withdrew with dignity and Jun is making sure that Shin-chan is going to dance to his tune. So Shin is still smarting from the possibility that Hiromi is his half sister, and to be honest they really don’t look alike since Hiromi definitely does not look like a scoundrel. While he had the right idea Hiromi was never one to make faces… Still I can’t believe he just doesn’t straight out and ask his parents for the truth. Nevertheless his mom is definitely plotting something. Giving up on Hiromi Shin-chan decides to go with Noe…
Noe is a bento fishing master. Most creative use of belt ever.
Right now I wish that this was a yuri series. Noe feeding Hiromi…how lovely it would have been to see it up close.
Unfortunately Noe had other plans for the short term and her use of bento lure was most impressive. Sadly while Noe is familiar with the feelings of others she doesn’t quite understand her own; good thing Jun nii is there to set things in motion for her. I really think that had Shin been killed that Noe and Hiromi would have been best of friends perhaps even lovers as the Noe feeding Hiromi went. It was cute though it ended tragically. Though Noe was most lacking in diplomacy she was right that Hiromi was keeping a lot of secrets and that Noe being the curious otome that she wants to know precisely the nature of why Hiromi blasted Shin-chan down to the ground. I hope the make nice since Hiromi is going to be a future sister in law either way. Still I hope Jun is going to make Noe and Hiromi apologize to one another since Shin-chan is a clueless bint. It was good to see that Hiromi’s friends did not go hostile when Noe was locked in combat with Hiromi, if only Shin-chan were not a factor then Noe would have many more friends…stupid Shinichiro.
Friends don’t fight. Can’t you both be friends? T_T
He knows, he knows Noe…
It was so adorable to see flustered Noe when confronted with the idea that she was in love with Shin-chan. Her subsequent evasion tactics were most brilliantly executed. I would rank having Shin-chan write it out on the ground with Stereo Gambit from “Say Anything.” While it was cute, I have say that rather than using proxy love as Stripey would like to believe I think that somewhere Shin-chan does care about Noe, he did after all keep his chicken feed, a rather odd if uniquely Noe memento. So perhaps Shin-chan was feeling something from the relentless urgings from Noe to carry on Raigomaru’s will. Noe looked most lovely and sad in the pale moon light when Jun found her one the verge of crying. I must say that Jun would make a fine partner for Hiromi if he just opened up like he does for Noe. Isurugi nii is by far more perceptive that Shin-chan and knows how to comfort those in need. Hardened by many winters he is undeniably wiser and can see through people just as well if not better than Noe, as amply demonstrated by his blunting of Aiko’s initial sweater gambit. Hopefully the whole writing of “I Like Noe” was incomplete not because he loved Noe less but that Shin-chan will take some time to appreciate glorious Noe.
He speaks the truth.
That’s why this is so hard. Honor and blood, Nobuse, honor and blood for Aiko-s heart.
Aiko’s long awaited attempt to crush Nobuse’s heart finally came about, but Nobuse delayed brilliantly. Nobuse has been Shin-chan’s friend for a long time and he undoubtedly knows that Shin-cahn is very much in love with Hiromi and beginning to feel the first pangs of infatuation for Noe. Given that Shin-chan doesn’t even consider Aiko as a girl much less a woman; Nobuse knows that Aiko is doomed to fail. His efforts to appeal to Aiko’s heart while derided as self serving, is not exclusively to Nobuse’s benefit. He had already gathered that Aiko was feeling something but as the years went by and Aiko did nothing while Shin-chan fell in love he stuck by her side.
Where a lesser man would have long ago assaulted Aiko for her faithlessness he stuck by her offering a refuge. Though in the end it was in vain He probably imparted to Aiko that he would still love her no matter what. Aiko’s designated meeting place probably did not escape him and his painful façade of optimism was probably meant to spare Aiko the guilt of having to reject him. When Aiko clicked her boots he knew that it was over and dictated how it would end, short, simple, and quite. He even took her home thus negating any possibility that Aiko would even see him break down, and to make sure that Aiko would not runabout aimlessly if she tried to backpedal. Thus Nobuse made sure that since Aiko made her decision that there was no going back. If Aiko wants to pursue Shin-chan she will do so on her own strength. He left behind no trace of wrath and went to his heart crushing with only a smile. Unfettered by guilt it was his sincerest hope that Aiko would move forward with only Shin-chan on her mind. Though it will be painful for Nobuse he will wait. Wherever she goes, whatever she does he will be right there waiting for her. Whatever it takes or how much his heart breaks he’ll be right there waiting for her.
O_o
Go ahead and cry its only gonna get worse Aiko…
Nobuse kept his wrath in check and for that he should be commended. He bore no ill will towards Aiko or Shin-chan and simply just kept out of sight and avoided contact so that he would no longer be a third wheel. Aiko’s doom was already written and her last ditch attempt to force Shin-chan to look at her is not going to end well. Shin-chan’s ensuing confusion will make things harder for him. If Aiko tries anything I am sure that Isurugi nii will be there to blunt her advances. No doubt being the thorough and meticulous man that he is Jun has already plotted out all possible courses of actions for Aiko. Like Shin-chan, Aiko is going to have to deal with this on her own. While a few would decry Nobuse for cowardice, however for the sake of Aiko’s conscience discretion was the better part of valor. Considering how Nobuse could have gone bat shit insane over this I have to disagree with Kurogane that the lack of Hiromi invited a lack of tension and drama, Nobuse’s ignominious defeat was a dramatic moment, he could have been packing heat. You can’t help but feel sorry for Nobuse he did his best and now has resigned himself to let his beloved Aiko march off to her doom, I reiterate that while he has been shafted by Aiko, Nobuse is a real man and by letting her go he has proved that he would bear any pain for Aiko’s sake. Contrast this with the unscrupulous nature of the hated Eater of Raigomaru who would have jumped on Aiko because she was just that cute, and once can plainly see how gracefully Nobuse has bowed out for now.
Since Aiko simply jumped on Shin-chan I guess Nobuse can claim that his mission was accomplished. Still Aiko is going to fail miserably, and without Nobuse or Shin-chan it will be a spectacle to see how far Aiko can get on her own or if she will be more stronger for it.
As do the rest of us. Down Stripey down, don’t you think of jumping on Noe…cuteness is not an excuse!
Embarrassed Noe is fine too.
I have to admit my tolerance for Shin is kind of wearing thin, and it’s not because he is clueless, but because he is the apple of Hiromi, Noe, and Aiko eye that poor Nobuse and Jun have to let the ones they love go. Where Nobuse has adopted a policy of non-interference in regards to Aiko’s attempts, Jun has taken a proactive approach that will surely shut down Aiko in short order while he and Hiromi get to know each other better. Whatever the out come I hope that Aiko will come back to Nobuse since I am sure that such a man would take her back because he has no other choice, he’ in love and Aiko is the only one for him. Hopefully Jun will be able to let Noe go with grace and see to Hiromi’s broken heart. Unless Noe is a non-blood related sister I don’t think that Jun is the kind of guy to make good on his feelings of sis-con.
We commend Ba’chan’s soul to Sto-Vo-Kor.
Called life.
Well I can’t wait to see what happens next and want to see what pathetic excuse Mrs. Nakagami has to defend her contemptible actions thus far. Next time Hiromi and probably Jun will get some screen time together so we can see if there is any real chemistry between them or if they will form a Sibling Lovers Support Group. Now if you will excuse me I need to run a bento fishing experiment…
Well with a face like that its a miracle you grabbed any man at all…Mrs. Nakagami.
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Wow! I’m impressed that you understand Jun’s character so much, It never entered my mind that he might try to love-block out Aiko from that single meeting they had. Yet it all fits into his character.
Sieg Zeon!
You know, Aiko is really giving me a huge bad taste in my mouth. You can argue how she is cute and all that, but all I see is a girl who made used of another guy as a proxy. I am always disgusted by anyone who ever uses a relationship as a proxy, since that shows a lack of respect for the person you accepted as your boyfriend/girlfriend.
I know I might be going to incur the wrath of many Ai-chan fans, but I really wish her heart will be broken to a million pieces and Nobuse finally withdraws his great love for Ai-chan. I want her to be demolished, destroyed mentally and then die by the loss of blood after I cut her limb by limb….
Ok, that was too violent but I really dislike Ai now. That said, the Noe x Shin is doomed to failure if it follows the standard story board. It is clear that Shin is just trying to justify his actions. I am very annoyed at him and I do not give him any relief at all for this.
ARGHHH!
When this all started, Miyokichi was the most annoying of all the characters, and at this point I find him to be the most sympathetic. Shin missed a golden opportunity to interrogate his dad in this episode, but here at ep 7 I guess it’s a bit early for the definitive reveal. It seems all the pairinggs right now are all love-by-proxy which means that there are going to be some epic breakdowns coming since ShinxHiromi has been obvious to me since ep 1, and even now Shin’s heart is still focused on Hiromi even though he is forcing himself to consider the possibility of Noe.
While I agree that Noe and Hiromi feel like they could be friends without Shin around, I don’t think they would have any reason to be friends without Shin. Both of them are using the other primarily to get closer to Shin. I don’t think Noe would get involved with ground-dwelling Hiromi if not for her own quest to understand Shin; Hiromi quite consciously reached out to Noe explicitly to get close to Shin. Though I do feel some dread that a catastrophic event may occur (ie bodies hitting the ground) and that the tears that Noe will retreive will be from an unexpected source, possibly Hiromi’s. This show has, after all, become Sad Girls (and Boys) in the Snow.
@Gravmech
Indeed, behold the awesome powers of Isurugi nii, defender of Noe. He is far more dangerous than Shin realizes…Noe doesn’t call him cool for no reason yes?
@Impz
There there, Aiko will be broken into a million pieces but Nobuse will be there to lovingly put her back together. If Shin breaks Noe’s heart Jun nii will set him straight…
@John
I am sure that without Shin-chan Hiromi would have been head over heels for Isurugi nii. Besides Hiromi can fly its just that the cruel stpe mother clipped her wings, now if Jun nii can work his patent magic I am sure that Hiromi’s wings would grow back.
What I never understood is – when Jun threated that he would not date Hiromi if Shin did not start dating Noe – why wasn’t Shin jumping for joy? Shin and Jun never wanted to date the women they’re dating right now, right? Wouldn’t Shin be HAPPY that Jun offered to get out of this mess? Besides – if Hiromi is going to be a little upset at Jun’s coldness, it would be perfect timing for Shin to “step in and save the day”, right? And why didn’t Shin tell his friend to keep chasing Aiko because he doesn’t like her? That way, it would be better for both him and his friends, right? These boys are so retarded. And I still do not understand why Noe doesn’t figure her feelings until after Shin suggested going out… she’s so… slow.
@asdf
Lots of reasons, starting with Shin thinks Hiromi likes Jun and ending with Shin thinks Hiromi is his sister.
Also, Shin was not aware of Ai and Nobuse’s relationship problems until Ai kissed him, so he wasn’t in a position to tell his buddy anything. Prior to that kiss, Shin has been looking at Ai as more of a boy than a girl.
@Crusader
I’m not sure that Hiromi was interested at all in Jun, and there’s no reason whatsoever to think Jun would be intersted in Hiromi without Shin. Other than being mezmerized by his words (words that would have no effect on Hiromi if not for Hiromi’s relationship with Shin), I don’t think Hiromi is falling for Jun at all. As far as Hiromi flying, I agree that her messed up homelife is the reason why she’s ground bound for the moment.
I feel for Ai-chan I really do. The most heartbreaking thing is how inevitable her crushing is. Some say she deserves it, and I don’t necessarily disagree with them, they have valid points, but even so I’d do anything to save her heartache.
Even so, I wouldn’t want Shin to go out with her if he feels nothing for her, because that can have no happy ending(some would say it’s poetic justice).
And unless she comes to love Nobuse, I don’t want her to go back to him just to ease her heartache, because that’s as unfair to both of them as the original relationship was.
For the same reason, if Shin is just confessing to Noe as some kind of rebound because he now sees Hiromi as out of the running for whatever reason, then he is unforgivable.
My guess, we’re heading for a Hiromi x Shin ending or an ending where no one ends up with anybody.
Stay strong Ai-chan, you’re in for some major heartbreak, but accept the pain and become a better person in the end.
John: “Lots of reasons, starting with Shin thinks Hiromi likes Jun and ending with Shin thinks Hiromi is his sister.”
I don’t think that’s true – when Shin talked to Hiromi in her room about dating Jun, Hiromi’s angry reactions were obvious. Shin should have at least gotten a hint about her not liking Jun as a lover. If he hasn’t then he’s apparently retarded. So either he simply ignored that whole conversation (seriously, how can ever ignore something like that), or he’s retarded.
“Shin was not aware of Ai and Nobuse’s relationship problems until Ai kissed him, so he wasn’t in a position to tell his buddy anything.”
Wait – so that whole “’sit down!’ and ‘my sewing is done only for you!’ and ‘don’t open the door!’ and Nobuse’s ‘if she fell for you then I’m fine.’” did not leave anything on Shin? You’re telling me that he’s NOT AWARE of Ai’s feelings until she kissed him? Yep – that just proved to all of us that he needs some mental help. Oh, but chotto matte – this is a harem anime, isn’t it? Guess I shouldn’t have expected too much.
@Dirian:
I don’t think Shinichiro is confessing to Noe only, or even mainly, out of rebound. I see it more as an action under duress thanks to Jun and his threat to break up with Hiromi, and his thoughts about how he may not have noticed Noe due to all his care for Hiromi was just to serve as his affirmation. He is hardly happy about it, the fact that he went to Aiko after that (almost surely meaning to confide in her) shows how he thinks of it as a problem rather than a happy occurence.
Ai-chan really needs to see what Nobuse is putting up with for an unrequited love. I may have doubts about him not allowing Aiko to say the parting words, but not going beserk on Shinichiro shows his worth as a man and a loyal friend. Shinichiro would do well to return the favour and gently, yet firmly, turn down Aiko.
@asdf
Yeah Shin is that thick…he would not know a clue if it bit him in ass and kicked him into the street.
@John
I think that Hiromi’s choice of Jun as her alleged boyfriend was no accident, he clearly has made enough of an impression to go on a first date with the guy. I do think that if Shin were never in the picture then Hiromi and Jun would have met through basketball any way. Besides Hiromi was somewhat flustered when on her first date, and she did not slap Jun when he caressed her face and stroked her hair…
I think that there is some hope yet.
@Dirian
Hopefully with Nobuse gone for a while Aiko will realize just how much she misses him. People never really appreciate something until its gone, I hope that is the case with Aiko.
@Cipher
Aiko will learn the hard way.
Still I agree that Shin-chan is probably motivated by Jun nii’s prodding.
I somewhat agree with Impz (though not to such a violent extent), that I hate when people use a relationship to ease their unrequited love. It sours me to the characters no matter how attractive and sympathetic I found them before. In my opinion, Nobuse is too good for Aiko- even if I want them to end up together because I want Nobuse to be happy.
I feel sorry for Hiromi’s circumstances; Shin’s mother is a demon to put up with. However, I don’t particularly like Hiromi because her personality is sort of.. eh. She’s deceptive and reminds me of Kotonoha from School Days.. just a horrifying combination in my opinion.
A part of me wants Shinichiro to find happiness with Noe because she’s the cutest, sweetest, most genki character in the show. However, a part of me feels that Shin is a loser who ought to end up with Hiromi because they feel more right together. This part of me would like Noe to end up with her newly-discovered non-biological Isurugi nii-chan who could care for her in a way that Shin could not. Ah. .if only harems ended the way I wanted them to end.
At least Kotonoha was a pretty decent and just a normal shy girl before all the traumas. Hiromi just comes off as a recluse through and through. She has no business thinking about romance with that kind of attitude, but neither does every other character it seems.
@Crusader
Of course her choice of Jun was no accident – Jun is Noe’s brother, Noe was her pathway to Shin, but when confronted by Shin, she couldn’t go out and say “yeah I am targeting you” so she latched on to the next thing she could think of. I think she went on that first date because of the “tangled webs” principle (she didn’t want to get caught in her lie).
@People who don’t like Hiromi
Hiromi isn’t really reclusive. The first couple episodes really focused on how she has lots of friends at school and seems to be quite popular and outgoing. The only person she is reclusive around is Shin, for what should be obvious reasons. The problem between Shin and Hiromi is that they fell in love first and found out they were related later, when it was already too late to shut down their feelings. Hiromi is desperately trying to supress her feelings for Shin, so it makes perfect sense that she acts coldly towards him.
I didn’t mean that Hiromi was a full, true blue recluse as in not having external friends, but she never seems to open up even to her friends it seems. There’s something to be said that you can put up that facade and still remain a bit of a recluse. Romantically-wise, it doesn’t help Hiromi either.
It’s as if all the romantically involved charas have a knock on their heads.
@Shippoyasha
To be fair, her problems are of a greater magnitude than those which can be shared normally with a friend of any degree. I highly doubt any one of us around here would be open about our family problems with our friends (of course if you are then that’s an enviable privilege), much less when it’s a family problem intertwined with romance. And speaking of romance, I disagree with your view that she has no business to think about romance. It’s pretty much anyone’s right to think about romance, no matter what their perspective or approach on it. To disagree with her approach is fine, but to deem it unworthy is not. There is no ‘absolutely right’ approach to love, after all.
@spring_rain
Hm, deceptive…? I suppose so, but not maliciously or even with bad intent, definitely? In fact, the one moment when she actually was truthful to Shinichiro pretty much wrecked Shinichiro upside down (the garden scene in ep6). If it’s about Isurugi Jun, she can’t be expected to confess her love to Shinichiro when she had been overheard telling another person that she likes Jun. In fact, she even tried to repair that situation with the beach walk, a subtle yet sure hint of her affection for him, showing how she yearns to be truthful to Shinichiro. She may be deceptive, but it is more forced on her than of her own free will, and for that I do not raise my hand against her.
@Cipher:
One could argue that Ai-chan knows all about unrequited love which is why she’s sick of sitting on the sidelines lying to herself and Nobuse when he’s not the one she likes, and when the one she DOES like is as thick as a post. She’s letting him in know in no uncertain terms her feelings, and whether out of desperation or not, she’s currently the only one(excluding the lovely Noe) whose being honest with herself about her own feelings and acting on it.
I agree that it isn’t entirely a rebound move to confess to Noe, but it does seem like that’s at least part of it in the sense that in his shock of losing any real chance with Hiromi due to the whole sister thing, he’s latching onto someone else who he knows is interested in him. Confessing to her when he doesn’t mean it is worse than anything Ai-chan did(since it’s not like Ai-chan deliberately sought out a relationship with Nobuse. The girl just needs to learn to say no). If Hiromi turns out to not be his sister and he immediately returns to her full force with no regard for Noe, then he deserves to be crushed utterly.
@Crusader: I hope so too, for both their sakes, and you’re right, sometimes you never appreciate what you have and how much it means to you until you lose it, but time will tell, and I just wish the best for her regardless.
I can sympathize with Hiromi and her situation, but her dishonesty, especially to herself, makes it hard for me personally to get behind her as long as she persists in this dishonesty. I’ll see how I feel about her if/when she comes clean, and the circumstances surrounding it.
Hm, well I think that yes, he will return to Hiromi, but he is not a heartless Makoto-incarnate and I think he will surely feel guilty and sad if/when he breaks up with Noe. Moreover, should he have to break up with Noe, I wish for a clean and complete break, as lovers. It would be unsightly to see him meander between his feelings for Hiromi and his commitment to Noe, for neither girl deserves half-hearted attention. In that sense, I don’t mind him going ‘full force’ back to Hiromi so long as he has the humanity in him to at least feel guilty for the proxy love. Some may say that it is his responsibility to clean up the mess he’s made, but I think that he may not be in the position to do so, even if he wanted to. If he devotes himself to Noe, he is denying his love for Hiromi, which may end up jeopardising his relationship with Noe. If he goes back to Hiromi, he will break Noe’s heart. Either way, the mess isn’t solved.
Interestingly, I note that in all this, no one has said how they would despise Jun with similar measure if he decides to ditch Hiromi. If anything, Jun is the one more likely to be indifferent when he abandons his proxy love. To excuse that possible action of his due to his love for Noe would mean that Shinichiro too can be pardoned due to his love for Hiromi.
@Cipher
I didn’t really get into how Hiromi having feelings is correct or ‘right’. It’s just that she is doing this via subversion and the cloak and dagger approach and it’s just not working. Noe’s brother basically blackmailing everyone, Noe forcing Shin to play along with a game (I seriously doubt the relationship potential is there. It’s like a play-date. I had those with girls in the past but it never got serious) and of course, Ai just losing it and confessing almost too outright.
It’s just that whatever these girls are feeling, they’re just making it hard on themselves. Either that, or they are confused as to what exactly they are aiming for. If that all leads to Shin, then oh boy..
Hiromi’s feelings isn’t really ‘right’ or ‘wrong’. It’s not a matter of whether it is correct for her to have feelings or not anyway, it doesn’t change the fact that she does have those feelings and thoughts. My point about disagreeing with her ‘not having any business to think about romance’ is that it is fundamentally similar in saying a particular person has ‘no business possessing basic human rights’. It is impossible to limit a person’s emotions and thoughts, so discussing whether they have the right to have them is, to me, irrelevant.
As for her methods, well again, disagreeing with her approach is fine, since it’s a matter of personal opinion. I just don’t agree with people who outright state that she’s wrong in her approach, because there is no ‘100% correct’ approach in love, and without that, it is impossible to judge whether her actions are right or wrong. (Yeah, to me, “I disagree with her feelings” and “Her feelings are wrong” are two different statements.)
In some ways I don’t disagree with you Cipher about Jun’s actions being cold/calculating, but there are two points to consider in that regard:
1) We’re all assuming Hiromi’s supposed love for Jun is a smokescreen to hide from her real feelings for Shin. Given that, the effect of Jun abandoning her should Shin abandon his part of the deal, while cold and heartless, isn’t going to have the same devastating impact on Hiromi as Shin’s abandonment will have on Noe. Still wrong, but impact wise I almost can’t fault Jun for abandoning a relationship where NEITHER party feels anything real as opposed to Shin breaking Noe’s heart the second his “first choice” suddenly becomes viable again.
I mean logically of course you’re entirely right, Jun being willing to dump Hiromi in a heartbeat as if it means nothing is as bad as what we all suppose Shin is going to do, but this is not just a matter of logic, and deep down I find Shin’s abandonment the worse act(assuming it happens full force with no second thoughts like I said.
2) Given how I’m sorta thinking it might play out, Hiromi would leave Jun and confess full fledged to Shin the second she finds out they aren’t related or just plain can’t stand to see him with someone else anymore(ala Mao). In that case, if they both just abandon their respective Isuragis in a headlong rush for each other, then however much we might despise Jun for being capable of abandoning Hiromi like it’s nothing, if he doesn’t actually do it, while Shin does, then the one whose more in the wrong here is clear.
But again, this is all assuming that it basically plays out like “Shin dates Noe for awhile because Hiromi is out of contention, finds out she’s attainable and dumps Noe like the consolation prize she was and rushes headlong into Hiromi’s waiting incestuous(?) arms for FILTHY UNCHRISTIAN SEX”, which is totally probable and if it goes down like that then I don’t care what his feelings are, his actions would be unforgivable, and the only thing that makes him better than Makoto is that I’d at least believe his feelings for Hiromi were legit as opposed to Makoto who just let his dick do the leading and went where ever he thought he could score(and to be fair, that’s a pretty large distinction. Going out with a girl as a rebound and then abandoning her for your true love as opposed to sleeping with anything that moves is an entire world of difference).
But you know what? This show is a great mix of both the predictable and the unpredictable elements, and while it’s possible it could play out exactly like that, I think it’s a worse case scenario and I’m probably giving everyone involved way too little credit(and completely discounting how the Ai-chan scenario will play out).
But even then, if Shin has any real feelings for Noe at all, then I don’t see how he can help being conflicted if/when Hiromi suddenly becomes available again. I agree it’s unfair to both of them to be half-hearted in his attentions, and certainly unsightly, but well again that’s a logical judgment and matters of the heart are rarely completely(or even mostly) logical. If he does like Noe, or truly come to like/lover her, then it would be just as logical to tell Hiromi that while he loves her she waited too long and he’s in a relationship with someone he likes so too bad so sad for Hiromi. That would be the best outcome(purely from my perspective), but if he DOES end up with Hiromi, and yet develops real feelings for Noe, then to just suddenly switch like that would either prove he never had feelings for her at all(contradiction with what I just said) or be rather unrealistic in a series that has been noted by a few for it’s more accurate than usual portrayal of young love. Even if he chooses Noe I’d think he’ll be more than a tad rocked whenever Hiromi comes clean.
But then let’s look at how the Ai-chan thing plays out(I don’t want to place any bets on this one. Even if I think she sadly has no chance, how this scenario is going to play out is really and truly up in the air). I would wager that finding out Hiromi likes him will be at least as huge a shock as finding out Ai-chan likes him, so I would guess he’ll probably react somewhat similarly when the time comes, and can at the least provide some good foreshadowing and give a true test of Shin’s character.
Of course he could turn Ai-chan down in an instant cause he doesn’t really like her romantically(ah but will her confession awaken feelings?), and therefore it bears not at all on how he’ll react should Hiromi come clean, but then maybe it will give a good bit of foreshadowing.
Much as I want to peg a Shin x Hiromi ending right now, even though it’s not the ending I’d prefer, everything is still very much up in the air and well, the last time I thought I had an ending pegged I was sure the Patriots were going to blow the Giants out of the water and that didn’t end like I expected it either.
I still disagree Cipher. It’s not about some human rights or anything like that. No need to get condescending here.
Like I said, if Hiromi is just going to act disingenuous about everything and expect things to actually work out, then I only think there’s going to be trouble. Then again, her half-sibling status with Shin naturally complicates things and that’s okay. But what’s not okay is how she is using Jun (you can argue it’s the vice versa) as a proxy and it just isn’t playing out right. Yes, I am complaining about her method, but that tends to bleed into the true intentions no matter how pure they can get. And let’s not get into whether I actually believe it’s ‘right’ or not. You convince me how this isn’t only complicating things and actually helping her. The show isn’t doing that either so I guess I’m right as far as I’m concerned from the way I see it.
And as far as I’m concerned, Hiromi would probably be better off staying away from this trainwreck of a romantic development. And I would rather not get lectured on how I’m being a Nazi about this, Cipher. I get it.
@Dirian
Good points. Things still need to happen in True Tears before anything gets anywhere at the moment, so I suppose I might have been too hasty in commenting over Jun. And yeah, Shin has set himself up for the internal conflict that will come out if/when he has to choose between Hiromi and Noe. I was just extrapolating from the developments so far into what I thought was the most viable ending, but for him to turn down Hiromi for Noe might not be that impossible after all. I still think chances are higher for Jun to initiate the break than Hiromi, but well, I’ll wait and see.
@Shippoyasha
Er, I didn’t mean to be condescending. There wasn’t much of another way that I could put what I meant to say, or at least, at the time when I was writing the reply. And well, I suppose if you think that it’s not about human rights then yeah, that’s your opinion too, nothing wrong with that. I do think it is more of Jun using Hiromi than otherwise, but to each their own. I’d rather not convince you about how her methods work and their effects, because in the end it still boils down to our difference in opinion, and as it would seem, we disagree on many points already (perhaps this being the only agreeable point so far lol), so it isn’t my place to do so.
Again, I did not mean to be condescending, nor did I mean to lecture anyone. Just trying to point out my own thoughts and discuss them in relation to other people’s thoughts. I’m sorry if I have offended you, or anyone else, while trying to discuss your opinions in relation to mine. And before Celesti… I mean, Crusader, intervenes, I will stop here for this matter, having said enough on my part.
Well, it all depends on how it ends. Really, Shinichiro can only get one girl so there will be two big losers. And looking at how Noe, Ai and Hiromi are going at it in weird tangents, at least one or two of them probably will get burnt out by the end. I just don’t think it’s all that realistic for Hiromi if it weren’t for the weird/lackadaisical way the other girls are going at it too.