What did Madoka tell Mai in the end that causes her to blush so badly?
I like to mislead people. For most of this episode, the mood is hardly jovial. It is just bloody and I mean it in a very literal term. Bloody.
Episode summary
Naru told everyone that Urado cannot be exorcised since he did not have any grievances like a spirit but instead simply wanted to continue living. Those things were demons or ghosts, things that no one in the room could destroy at all. Mai questioned his integrity and said that he was running away and not saving the two assistants. Naru said that they had already died. Naru did add that Urado could not kill anyone outside the mansion and a good way would be to burn the house down.
The mission given by Madoka in fact was to debunk the fake Dr Davis going around that was tricking others. Naru said he had to trick everyone about the real purpose since someone in the group could not lie which was Mai. Naru ordered everyone to pack up as Masako did not want Mai to talk to her so kindly. Masako was jealous that Naru addressed Mai specially by Mai’s name, while Ayako and Masako were called by surname. Mai saw that Masako was jealous and explained that it was her silliness that caused Naru to call her and instead said that Masako had Naru’s weakness. Masako said that Naru had great pride and hence hated her for discovering his weakness, as she went out to the corridor to get some breath and told Mai not to follow.
She ended by saying that she still hated Masako. When Ayako came out, Mai remembered Naru’s warning about Urado wanting young people, only to find Masako missing. Naru and everyone gathered together as Naru questioned why Mai allowed Masako to move alone. As they spent half the day trying to find Masako in that empty space, nothing was found as Mai felt horrible for not being assertive enough. Ayako came over and told Mai to take a rest. As she slept, she woke up to see Dream Naru, as Naru told Mai where Masako was. As she followed his directions, Mai found Masako squatting in the same room (torture room) as Masako said that Naru also came with a very warm smile and told her not to worry.
Masako said that she might already be dead without knowing, but Mai told her not to say such things and passed her a key. It was the key of her former house and told her that it was not a dream, as long as she believed that she was not dead. Mai promised to save her. Mai woke up, telling everyone that Masako was still alive as they followed Mai’s directions according to the dream where she was dragged away. They eventually found a separate house. Naru realized that the height of the modified floor was to hide this place as Mai remembered more of the dream. She then rushed out to the second storey, slipping slightly on the wet surface of the table in the room with Masako.
As Masako addressed her, she said “blood” as Mai turned around, only to see blood everywhere on the table as well as the bathtub filled with blood.A body came out saying that he did not want to die. It was Urado as Mai tried to repel him with the chant taught by Bou-san. It seemed that he was repelled as they took the chance to escape, only for a force to hold Mai back. As she was held by the spirits of the servants, bloody footsteps appeared on the ground and the bloody body of Urado came face to face with Mai.
She screamed in fear as she tried to escape with no avail. Just when Urado was about to strike, Lin came in just in time to summon some form of spirit to scare off Urado. Naru ordered everyone to escape, as Bou-san kicked through the window. Bou-san scolded Mai for being reckless again but her recklessness allowed them to find the missing people. In an adjacent room, all the bones of the victims were displayed nicely, as the blood was first drawn from their body before burning it up to be bones. The son probably built up the extra rooms to hide it.
Masako passed Mai the key in the “dream”, as Bou-san said that it was very impressive since Mai was able to get her spirit out of her body to pass Masako the key. Lin’s ability was a way to use a spirit to tangle and capture spirits when Lin explained. Masako found her comb dropping on the floor, with Mai questioning why Naru had the comb. He did not answer, as everyone teased Naru saying how worried he was for Masako. Yasuhara eventually explained to the owner about the situation and adviced him to burn the house down.
A few days later, a small news article talked about the house burning. Mai took the opportunity to ask about Naru’s parents in the office when Madoka came, since Lin and Naru were not around. Madoka said his father was a ghost hunter too, but Naru would have told her if he asked since it was nothing important but that he had something to do. Madoka then told Mai to come over, revealing that Naru and Lin were eloping causing Mai to blush. Madoka then said it would be fun if that happened as it was a joke from Madoka. Mai questioned why Naru had Masako’s comb and Madoka said that Naru was probably worried about his comrades since he was not a cold blooded man.
Probably (the probably is emphasized).
Thoughts
I think everyone will definitely agree that this arc is one of the most compelling arcs since it starts off with a very bloody and disturbing theme and maintains the tension of the arc throughout the four episodes. This is clearly the best arc in Ghost Hunt by a mile and I will like to see someone challenge this point that it is not. I also feel that this episode is good because it shows the inadequancy of the ghost hunters for the first time. If you notice, all the exorcism had been done rather successfully without any really big complexities.
This is perhaps the first case in which they did not have a true solution to solve it other than burning the house down to get rid of the spirits in the house. It has already been established that the power of Urado is only existent within the perimeter of the house within but I guess the fact that Naru admitted to having no ability to solve the situation does bring in some realism.
I actually see Mai’s point of view that she is probably shocked still that they cannot do anything but Naru and everyone else are experts at “soothing spirits”, not eliminating a demon like Urado who is only looking to extend his life by sacrificing lives. He is not one that wishes to move on, but simply wanting and yearning for eternal life, the life of a person seeking Utopia in a bloodied ritual.
I am also amazed at Mai’s growing strength. The ability to travel her soul beyond her body in the form of a “dream-like” situation and passing items such as a key to Masako in that state is just crazy. I mean, the ability to foresee the ghost fires in this episode is already crazy but to be able to travel beyond the physical boundaries of her body and passing the key. That is insane totally. To add on, it is amazing that Dream-Naru also visited Masako earlier, telling her that it was going to be fine. If someone can give me a good explanation to why Dream-Naru will also appear to Masako, I will give you a virtual cookie.
The only conclusion that I can derive from this situation is that Dream-Naru cannot be supported by the logic of Mai’s power and must be a power only from a foreign source, most likely Naru or a spirit source. I say this because Mai generally does not really conjure Dream-Naru but instead, he appeared to her mostly. I do not believe that Mai’s ability can extend to that effect and I feel that Dream Naru feels more like a manifestation of Naru’s subconscious power or something. On the other hand, if Mai does have the ability to project images and bodies to people, she is going to be crazily powerful.
I also thought about the fact of Naru’s father being a ghost hunter. It still does not eliminate the logic of Dr Davis being Naru. If you notice, Dr Davis is also considered to be one of the greatest ghost hunters. Nothing is said about her mother though and I am slightly disappointed at the lack of information.
Now on the comedy parts, Naru is evil for laughing at Mai for being incapable of lying (which is good). Masako’s blushing and jealousy of Mai is also classic but the best is still the two Masako x Naru moments, one being the sweet Naru comforting Masako and telling her that it is all right, and the second part about Naru keeping Masako’s comb and not saying anything.
See, the show proved that there is IN FACT SOMETHING with Masako and Naru. This is love totally! I also laughed crazily with Madoka’s antics about Naru x Lin eloping, as well as the “probably” at the suggestion of Naru doing it simply due to the concern of a comrade. Yami and Honeysempai, this does not give you the right to go all Yaoi-fangirl like. It’s just a joke by Madoka. A JOKE!
*turns all maniac fanboy-like with the TRUE REVELATION OF THIS EPISODE*
An excellently executed episode. I cannot wait for the last file, the cursed house!
P/s I didn’t know I rambled that much…
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I’d like to give a try for that virtual cookie, if I may. I’ve said all along that I believe that dream!Naru is not simply a manifestation of Mai’s imagination. That he has a “reality” beyond her subconsiousness. Just wanted to reiterate that fact.
Here’s a recap of some of the things we know from prior episodes. (1) Dream!Naru has some form of independent movement. He can come and go within Mai’s dreams at his own will. (2) Masako has the ability to tap into Mai’s dreams. In other words, Masako can enter into Mai’s dreams and see what Mai sees. We saw her do this in the last case when Masako witness Mai’s vision of Sachauki’s (sp?) spirit being absorbed by the dark spirit.
My theory is that while Mai was dreaming this last time, dream!Naru came into Mai’s dream as usual. Masako had been trying to protect herself with her own psychic powers and accidentally tapped into Mai’s dream just as she did in the last case. (That explains how the two girls were able to meet later on in Mai’s dream in my theory.) This means that Mai, dream!Naru, and Masako were all together in Mai’s dream. Once Masako joined Mai’s dream, dream!Naru could be seen by Masako and could talk to her just as he does with Mai.
If you want an analogy, think of Mai’s dream as if it were some online chat room. Mai’s dream created the chat room. Dream!Naru joined the chat room. Later Masako joined the chat room. Once Masako was in the chat room, dream!Naru was able to talk with her just like he can talk with Mai. Later on, Mai and Masako were able to chat as well.
Does that all make sense? Do I get my virtual cookie? 
My theory? Dream Naru is Naru-chan’s dead twin brother.
Extrange added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 7:44 amwoah.. i haven’t finished reading the comments on the last entry and you’v already done this one.. anyway, god job Impz! the two pics of bloodied urado really scare the hell of me (i’m a coward, yeah)
do you think that Naru holding Masako’s comb is actually helping the Dream Naru to enter Masako’s dream (if i’m reading what you wrote correctly) And why did Madako and Naru have to go all the way to debunk the fake Dr Davis so as to accept an assignment that may endanger their lives? It must mean that debunking him is very, very important.
oh yeah, if Dream Naru and Naru is the same person, how can the Dream Naru tell Mai where Masako is whereas Naru himself doesn’t seem to know? Somehow, the idea of Dream Naru being a different person makes sense to me. Oh, Naru and Lin eloping-lol! However, i’m for Naru x Mai faction *raise banner* >
danie added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 7:50 amLKK says: “(2) Masako has the ability to tap into Mai’s dreams. In other words, Masako can enter into Mai’s dreams and see what Mai sees. We saw her do this in the last case when Masako witness Mai’s vision of Sachauki’s (sp?) spirit being absorbed by the dark spirit.”
I have to respectfully disagree. I don’t think Masako entered Mai’s dream; I think they both witnessed a situation that happened right in front of them. So it’s more like there’s this car crash that they both “see” because it happened near them, not the fact that the car crash happened in one of them’s dreams and the other entered the dream to see it.
I do agree with the first point, though, in that Dream Naru is independent of Mai. I still think that Dream Naru is the subconscious manifestation of Real Naru (perhaps a reflection of his real powers?). Previously, Dream Naru has always CHOSEN to go to Mai’s dream. He probably has the ability to go to any sensitive medium/psychic’s dreams. It’s simply that he CHOSE to go to Mai’s dream.
Now, at this time Real Naru is worried about Masako (I give you that, Impz. But I think he’s worried about Masako as a friend, not as a crush or love interest ^_^ ). There isn’t really any doubt about that, with the evidence of the comb. So subconsciously, Dream Naru sought out Masako and appeared to her, giving her hope/moral support/whatever. This time, Dream Naru CHOSE to go to Masako, although he had never done that before (probably being he didn’t feel that it’s necessary, because after all, Mai’s the one for him 
), because Real Naru is worried and hence Dream Naru is worried as well.
Regarding Naru x Masako, I have to say that given that Dream Naru has never appeared to Masako before (and only appeared when she’s in great danger), shows that Mai is much more important in Dream Naru’s POV. And since I’m firmly of the opinion that Dream Naru equals Real Naru, Mai is more important to Real Naru as well.
I haven’t seen the episode, so all these are theories only. I do have a question though… is it ever explained why Urado didn’t kill Masako immediately?
Briar added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 7:59 am@ Briar : “I haven’t seen the episode, so all these are theories only. I do have a question though… is it ever explained why Urado didn’t kill Masako immediately?”
Until I read the translations I can’t answer for sure. But I believe she’s warding herself to some degree. Remember when Naru asked Masako in episode 20 if she could protect herself a little? He says, “If you’re even a minor psychic, you can at least protect yourself, right?” Masako answer yes.
I believe that her warding spells are sufficient to keep her safe from immediate death although not enough to help her get away.
Also, I think in the manga, Masako tells Mai that she’s been protecting herself to some degree. But I don’t have a manga translation (only someone else’s summary) to use a definitive proof on that point.
LKK added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 8:23 amgg Extrange you’ve just spoiled me :/
I shouldn’t come here and read about eps 21 after all >.
Mgz added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 8:48 am@ Mgz: spoiled? That’s just my theory. Besides, it’s so predictible will all the clues they give during the Anime. Want me to enumerate them??.
Extrange added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 8:50 ami also wondered why dream Naru could appear to Masako and did it only in this one situation. if dream Naru is indeed independent of real Naru, and he has the power to appear to sensitive mediums, why was he appearing only to Mai? since the way Masako said it, i assumed that smiling Naru appeared to her a while ago and not in the time that Mai was asleep. on the dead twin brother theory, if dream Naru is open and nice, maybe he “chose” Mai since their personalities are similar? and appeared to Masako only when she needed somebody, simply because he’s a caring person… if that’s the case, could Mai be in love with the twin and not really real Naru? which leaves real Naru for Masako? !_!
@Briar: i’m coming from the Chinese version of the manga. when Mai found Masako in the dream, she said (roughly translated), i’ve seen memories of horrible things, and i’m very tired. when Mai found her in reality, she didn’t know that there was a lot of blood in the room, and from her reactions seemingly didn’t know that Urado was in the tub. one explanation might be that once she was grabbed and dumped in this room, she set up some defensive measures (like an energy field maybe) that repelled Urado for a while. once Mai came in, she felt that everything was going to be ok, the field was broken, and Urado came after them.
another possibility is that Urado doesn’t need any new blood at the moment (two assistants in the last two days), and simply grabbed Masako because he had the chance to. supposedly, having superpowers has an extra yummy factor for man-eating demons. but Mai was going to take away his yummy prey, so he came out. Mai seems to have a lot of potential and raw power she doesn’t know how to control yet. if she’s more powerful than Masako, she’s basically yummier, which might explain why Urado went directly after her first.
noblsheep added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 9:08 am@ Extrange : I would like to hear how you developed the dead twin theory based clues from the anime even if Mgz doesn’t.
LKK added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 9:19 am@ Extrange : I would like to hear how you developed the dead twin theory based on clues from the anime even if Mgz doesn’t. (*typo correction; apologies for repost*)
LKK added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 9:21 am@Briar: there is no explanation by the anime to explain why she is not dead yet. In fact, everyone assumed to find Masako’s body until Mai had her “dream”, hence a reasonable educated guess will be Lkk’s reply that she can fend off with her power at the very least but unable to escape as she has that form of ability. In a way, no one could.
@LKK: Sounds logical but the fact that Masako has not actively tried to seek out the tapping of the dream makes me skeptical about it. It sounds plausible though, and my brain isn’t functioning too well this late in the night so I will allow myself a day to rest before answering and replying you effectively.
@Danie: I will think that the comb does not have that big a significance though you might have pointed out a thing that personal objects of a certain person can be used and tapped differently. If you remember, Dr Davis can find a person simply by touching the items of the person that the missing person held. Hence, it is possible that Naru is able to tap into that conscious ability if he is really that powerful. I believe he is. I believe that the inference makes sense since we are brought into question Dr Davis in this arc.
To answer about debunking issues, the fake Dr Davis has been going around to trick other people and scare people about spirit occurrences, earning a good amount of money from it. The rumor has spread enough to give the ghost hunters a bad name.
Remember, Naru did not do all this for free, he gets paid a good sum for it. Hence, it is lucrative to cheat and hence Madako asked Naru to find out and debunk them completely.
~I also dragged Extrange to answer the question posed by LKK~
Impz added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 10:10 am“Masako has the ability to tap into Mai’s dreams. In other words, Masako can enter into Mai’s dreams and see what Mai sees. We saw her do this in the last case when Masako witness Mai’s vision of Sachauki’s (sp?) spirit being absorbed by the dark spirit.
A chicken passeth by added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 10:16 am@LKK: several small details: things like Naru asking Mai where did she heard his nick name in ep 1, Mai asking Naru if he knew how it feels to be killed in ep 20 and his reaction, the opposite personalities of Dream and real Naru. Sorry if I can’t recall more clues atm…
Extrange added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 10:22 amFor one, it seems that unlike the usual “dreams” that Mai has, it is very different in the fact that she is able to pass physical objects belonging to her to someone else (Masako). I have a feeling that Mai actually tapped in the presence of Masako, not in a dream but rather than a “dream-like” out of soul experience.
Still following my argument?
In a way, I do agree more with AChickPass (easier to call him/her that) that it’s likely that Mai is more of a reception rather than someone who is a medium. It’s likely since Bou-san mentioned about her new ability of moving out of her soul and it must be powerful if she is able to transport a physical object to Masako, even if it is a small object like a key.
Hmmm, my mind is really failing me at this time and I should stop thinking. I think too much today with my school work already, ahaha~
Impz added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 10:31 amThey outdid themselves with this arc. I hope they keep it up with the next one.
Wait, “She ended by saying that she still hated Masako.” Who said that, Mai? Or did you mean Masako said that and meant Mai?
Do you think you could explain further what Bousan and Lin were talking about?! pretty please!
Impz, You never know if Madoka was fully joking or not… Im keeping my hopes up for LinxNaru. Its better than MasakoxNaru *runs runs runs away from a mad Impz*
Another good job on the summary!
@LKK- I guess I was somewhat right on the conversation between Mai and Masako…
@Extrange- Interesting way of coming up with your theory!
honeysempai added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 11:02 am@impz: Fine Ill let my mind wander on its own then…
This epi in general scared the blue-hell outta me! Even though I knew what was gonna happen, Urado staring at Mai freaked me out!
Mai didnt ask Masako about Naru’s weakness right? Just that Masako knows it. Man Id have jumped on that info but Mai probably figured that Masako wouldnt tell her.
Mmm… I dunno this arc was so… creepy O___O I didn’t find the scene were urado comes out of the tub that scary compared to having him face to face. Now that was scary, I started wondering what would i have done and the answer is simple I WOULD HAVE GONE INSANE so digging my own grave.
however, my question is how where they killed then, was the same chopping knife used or did Urado just devoured them right there? could someone clarify that for me?
Finally I think Masako somehow got into Mai’s dream, my opinion derives from the fact that dream-naru only shows up in Mai’s dreams, not anyone else’s. So if dream-naru was there it was most likely that masako came into Mai’s dream so allowing dream naru to come in contact with masako.
GREAT ARC!!!
oh god wt a gr8 ep. ok lsn to ths um startin to believe tht naru z dr.davis, coz one of dr.daviss’ (powers) z to know the location of a person from a subject tht he last uses, so naru took the comb trayin to reach masako, bt mai was faster than him,common impz it’s obvious tht naru feels nothin for masako, and i also believe tht masako knows naru real identity tht’s why he accepts to go out with her and stuff like tht,ths z called black male) and she herself said tht naru adresses to mai in her first name, and believe me she knows tht she’s the loser, nw if 2 grls r fighting over a guy the grl tht knows tht shes the loser will be jelous from the other one, and would keep making a big fuzz over the issue, so its obvious tht masako can see the connection between mai and naru so she’s crazy jelous, naruXmai forever
laboosh added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 12:44 pmExchange!
You stole my hypothesis! I came to the same conclusion this morning (4am local time) after seeing the anime. it was far to early for a post and I was so proud of myself and now I am scooped…!!!
Drat!
Bibliofil added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 1:19 pmOh, sorry,
I also wanted to add, Impz, great summary as always!!
Bibliofil added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 1:21 pmremember at the sakauchi episode where dream-naru warns her of those huge evil spirits? she said she was going off to warn john and yasuhara abt it and dream-naru seemed to be talking to himself after she left. i think he said “take care, be careful” or something.
i don’t think that was a manifestation of her mind. my guess is dream-naru is either naru’s twin. and i think masako would know since she’d be able to identify who the spirit is. that could be the weakness she’s talking abt. aaaaand assuming naru and masako has a thing going on, she’d probably know of his dead twin. of course, assuming he does exist in the first place.
so being an independant spirit source, dr-naru could choose whose dream to appear to. i think his role is to warn any of naru’s comrades of danger and stuff. mai would seem to “meet” him more because she’s more prone to danger.
anyway, its impossible for dr-naru to be naru. i think a person would go into some sort of trance if he tries to connect with someone telepathically and naru’s always busy when mai gets those dreams. then again, we don’t know if he does go into one of those “stare-into-empty-space’ spells when he’s away.
cat added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 1:21 pm@Impzy, see I told you, that you wouldn’t be disappointed!
I agree that the comb isn’t really a sign of Naru having any feelings for Masako other than maybe friendship. I think you’re on track with the theory he had it as a link to Masako so they could find her.
This is definetely my favourite arc of the series.
@Minerva, oh I totally agree with you, it wasn’t him coming out of the bath that was freaky, I expected that. It was him practically being in Mai’s face! I hate having people I don’t know in my personal bubble, so having a demon invade it would be especially frightening!
@achickenpasseth, LOL Mai does get in trouble a lot doesn’t she? She needs to take a container of salt with her so she can draw a circle around herself with it. Then again knowing Mai she’d just leave the circle and head right into danger. Of course I think that works mainly on evil spirits rather than demons.
Okay so this episode really does suggest that dream Naru is not a figment of Mai’s imagination. The only way that could be true, was if Mai was projecting him into Masako’s mind. That doesn’t seem very likely given that Mai also comforted Masako herself, so why do it twice over? Therefore it seems more likely as you all say that dream Naru is from a source other than Mai.
Either Naru himself subconciously or consciously. Evidence for it be a conscious effort on his part would be the comb. He needed an object of hers in order to project to her.
However this makes no sense since as Danie pointed out, Naru did not know where Masako was being held.
So this points to Dream Naru being subconcious on his part. Why then the need for the comb? Maybe Naru had obtained it, in order to give to Lin since he is an Onmyouji but never got around to it.
Or it was a conscious effort on his part, he did find Masako, but for whatever reason his dream state chose to show Mai her location rather than his concious mind.
My brain is spinning.
Or dream Naru is completely independant of Naru and is in fact the spirit of his dead twin.
Maybe he turned up to comfort Masako because Mai was upset?
Okay enough speculating for now, my brain has had enough and the doctor got more blood out of me today, I need to sleep some more.
D.J added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 1:42 pm*Impz,ok fine!I think this time you won against me and the rest of the Mai x Naru supporters bla bla!but I was very impressed by Lin-sama!wow wow wow,I may say he’s great!!!!
and I find also nice the scenery of Yasuhara,its very cute when his nodding like that hmmmm,hmmm!
*D.J,thanks for Naruto I appreciate it very much!
na2niet added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 3:08 pmOkay, let me put my spin in here…the dream Naru is the dead twin and he know that Naru has some affection for Mai (yeah NaruxMai!!!) so he watches out for her. Masako know Naru had a twin and that he died (maybe how or why)and that Naru feels guilty for this reason (weakness). Naru has some of his twin power but can’t feel his twin so is a bit lost (twins know what this feeling is - like a part of you is gone). And I agree that Masako tapped into Mai’s dream or Mai’s subconciously bespoke her worry to Naru’s twin and he went to comfort Masako till Mai got there.
Rumi added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 3:14 pmHonestly,I find really weird,the thinks of dreamnaru!I don’t think so,I don’t know!I guess that dream-naru they called is the same person as Naru itself,I think that his special ability,like Lin-sama,Mai and the rest of them!and there must be a reason why he’s keeping it that way!somebody said before,I mean in the previous episodes that Naru is protecting them?so I think this is how Naru protect the rest of them!Like Mai is starting only an ordinary teenage girl,who will know that she will have that great ESP, she can able to pass the key to Masako,while she sleeping,I guess Naru has also those kind of special ability but a different one!
but hey all of you don’t get angry of me! I was just trying to expressed my point of view regarding GH!
thanks for reading!
*13sugars:I’m waiting for your nice comments!where are you anyways?
na2niet added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 3:44 pmI want a show down bwtn Lin and Naru XD Shikigami v PK!
YamiKakyuu added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 5:01 pm@na2niet, Your welcome ^-^, there is so much more to Naruto than I put down, but I think that will give you an introduction to it. The manga is definetely worth a read. Some people dismiss it offhand, but there really is a lot of depth to it once you get into it. And if you stick to the manga you can avoid the fillers that dragged the anime down. Although Shippuden has started so now we are back to manga related anime!
Back to the topic at hand!
I agree, one thing that really struck me about this episode was WOW Lin-san is awesome!
And that is a very nice idea about dream-Naru being an extension of himself that protects those around him. ^-^
D.J added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 5:46 pmDream!Naru being Naru’s dead twin? >__
Ricaryx added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 5:50 pmSorry, something ate the rest of my post x.x again…
Dream!Naru being Naru’s dead twin? Haha Somehow, I find that highly unlikely but to each his own. 
I say…Mai and Masako have similar abilities which would explain why Masako started seeing dream! Naru as well. However, could that possibly mean that Mai’s abilities are more advanced that Masako’s? Or maybe it’s just another growth in Masako’s spiritual capabilities. Either way, I do agree with dream!Naru coming from another party. Also, I just noticed that dream!Naru appeared to Mai ever since she met Naru. I’m still not rejecting the fact that it has something to do with Naru.
Hypothesis alert!! I think Naru had something special in him and it awakened some potential powers inside Mai.
About MasakoxNaruxMai thing, Masako had episode 21, but nothing beats Mai’s episode 17 Haha
Ricaryx added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 5:51 pmI think Dream Naru is helping Mai develop her abilities, her powers i believe can more than transcend Masako as the perect medium being able to interact diferent planes.
Naru likes Mai people, she may annoy him sometimes but at the end of the day he is intrigued anddare i say find her rereshing. I so love the episode witht he quote on quote talking coin.
But i have to say, this arc was intense
Audi added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 5:55 pm*danie: doesn’t make sense if you scared by pictures alone!but if you say you have done watching it!then I would agree!me either,I can’t watched it alone!hek hek!
*D.J: you have a good idea also with the comb,yes!can be also possible!that Naru needs something from Masako to protect her!but how he protect her anyways,in what way? we seen the amazing ability of Lin-san,(Lin-sama),but I don’t see what Naru did!hmmmm (sigh)
na2niet added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 6:05 pmcome to think fo it!right now we saw that Naru enters Masako’s dream as well,like he always did it on Mai’s dream !and if Naru used the comb,to to protect Masako and enters her dream!what would Naru have from Mai? that he always manage to enter her dreams?
na2niet added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 6:14 pm…I’m not going to spoil about what I learnt about DreamNaru even before this episode. >_>
Suffice to say, DN is not a dream - he’s his own entity, and he’s probably only around because someone isn’t quite dead yet.
Masako can communicate with him easy (Oh dear. Apparently she has the power to make DN willingly leave. Naru’s weakness?
A chicken passeth by added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 6:41 pm#$%& buggy reply software.
“Mai’s receptiveness allows DN to visit and guide her.” Got eaten by Ye Pirate Muncher. -.-
A chicken passeth by added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 6:43 pm‘Suffice to say, DN is not a dream - he’s his own entity, and he’s probably only around because someone isn’t quite dead yet.’
Waaaaah, Naru’s not dying is he? Please say no, please say he has a sickly twin somewhere!
D.J added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 8:05 pmDunno about the comb thing, i have read so much about it in forums and stuff. I guess masako has a point thinking naru dislikes her because of her knowing his weakness. But hey… he still worries about her, at least we can say he maybe dislikes the blackmailing but not to the pointing of hating her. Now dream naru i go for the twin brother theory. Lin said someone said the same thing Mai said about not wanting him to hate her for being japanese. Maybe naru and his bro are originally japanese but emigrated to england. Twin is death or in a coma and comes to Mai in dreams to aid her and naru.
@DJ: Good God seems we in the same channel. I just find it freaky when creepy people come close to you in a range of 30cm… my reaction is “excuse me do i know u, do i care to know u… shoo”. Now it being a blood thirsty ghoul wanting to kill me dunno i would die of a heart attack first i guess X_X
@na2niet: Hail to Lin sama and his shiki. Man that guy is sooo cool i wonder why he doesn’t get more action screen time >_>
@audi: i think so too. Despite the cold demeanor naru has a soft spot for mai 
@MinervaArnauld, definetely on the same channel, there are a rare few who allowed within my personal bubble. And I can get very upset if people I don’t know encroach on that space. I’d say 30cm is about right, its waaaaaay too close. Men make me particularly wary but I do have a very good reason for that.
The more I see him in action the more I am in awe of Lin and his amazing abilities, he’s very easy on the eyes too!
D.J added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 8:46 pm@Honeysempai: It’s Masako who said that she just cannot like Mai at all and hated her before leaving the room. I assumed that you are talking about the convo between Lin and Bou-san near the end.
Bou-san: Talking about tricks, what is the thing you threw to save Mai and the others.
Lin: That is my specialty (I think).
Bou-san: It is a form of art/skill where he can summon and order a ghost effectively in order to capture and bind spirits.
That’s it but I am not too sure if I got it spot on since there’s a term I did not really know how to translate. I am but an amateur Chinese -> English translator after all, not a fansub level one.
@Minerva: Well, the fact is that Naru is not a cold-blooded person. He is of course more concerned about his mates and working partners rather than himself, for he looks after them too selflessly compared to his own body. It’s a very big contrast to how he presented himself as someone really stoic. He’s clearly not, if you see his expressions and his acts. They don’t correspond together.
I do wonder what the weakness is though. Any idea at all?
The Dream Naru and Naru himself possibility is one that often gets me thinking. My feeling is that it is probably a totally different persona and the logic behind the dead twin will make sense at the criticism by Mai when she said he did not know how it feels to see someone die. However, it will be interesting to explain about this dead twin…
He probably died saving Naru during ghost hunting if anything, which is probably why.
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“Bou-san: Talking about tricks, what is the thing you threw to save Mai and the others.
Lin: That is my specialty (I think).
Bou-san: It is a form of art/skill where he can summon and order a ghost effectively in order to capture and bind spirits.”
I think he said “shiki”, which is
Briar added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 10:06 pmAH! Thank you Impz!
honeysempai added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 11:01 pm*A chicken:I agree with you!I think its Naru its itself!
na2niet added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 1:33 am~Impa~ “I am also amazed at Mai’s growing strength. The ability to travel her soul beyond her body in the form of a “dream-like
ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 1:48 am@ a chicken passeth and @ na2niet: hi guys, well um still not convinced tht Dream Naru z the real naru, i mean is it possible to have the power to enter mais’ and masakos’ dreams and worn them and not being able to connect with his subconsciousness,then wts the use of havin such a power?!! and the look on DR Naru z totally different from the look on real narus’ face, if he has this gentle look then why hiding it, it doesnt make sense to me.
and theres a Q tht has been bothering me, if DR naru has the power to enter mais’ dreams then why not entering his brother head ( in assumption tht he’s his dead twin) and warn him,or to enter lin-sans’ head since those two have gr8 powers…hmmm, cn any 1 help me with ths.
also agree with u guys tht lins’ smile in the end was totally deadly ^^.
@ DJ:it’s always nice to read ur comments
@ cat: u always hv very interesting ideas
@ 13sugar: where r u? waitin for ur comments^^
um just hopin tht this time they wont cut my comments o__O.
oh yeah one last point i really hope tht they will make another season, coz i connat accept the idea tht there’s only 5 eps. left.
@ a chicken passeth and @ na2niet: hi guys, well um still not convinced tht Dream Naru z the real naru, i mean is it possible to have the power to enter mais’ and masakos’ dreams and worn them and not being able to connect with his subconsciousness,then wts the use of havin such a power?!! and the look on DR Naru z totally different from the look on real narus’ face, if he has this gentle look then why hiding it, it doesnt make sense to me.
and theres a Q tht has been bothering me, if DR naru has the power to enter mais’ dreams then why not entering his brother head ( in assumption tht he’s his dead twin) and warn him,or to enter lin-sans’ head since those two have gr8 powers…hmmm, cn any 1 help me with ths.
also agree with u guys tht lins’ smile in the end was totally deadly ^^.
@ DJ:it’s always nice to read ur comments
@ cat: u always hv very interesting ideas
@ 13sugar: hey nice to c u was waitin for ur comment, and I support u 100% ^^
um just hopin tht this time they wont cut my comments o__O.
oh yeah one last point i really hope tht they will make another season, coz i connat accept the idea tht there’s only 5 eps. left.
*13sugars:so your gonna have anime Ghost hunters babies! hahahahaha!from Lin-san!
na2niet added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 2:27 amOFF-TOPIC COMMENT
~Na2niet~ Well, I absolutely and definitely wouldn’t mind. (lol) It is so great that Lin-san IS an anime character. Because if there really is a guy like that who exists in my reality, then my heart and my virtue would really be in danger. ^^
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ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 2:45 am@13sugars: I am actually teasing about the Masako x Naru moments. Still, ignores all your claims about the non-existent pairing of Naru x Mai. ~whistles~
Actually, while 13sugars was swooning all over Lin, it triggered to my thoughts that Lin is in fact very capable of many things that I did not expect him to have. I mean, he can not only summon ghosts, detect ghosts, see ghosts but also to use ghosts to his advantage. It’s pretty scary and I finally realize why Bou-san is so impressed when they realize that Lin is an onyumji (can’t spell).
One thing about the ending really makes me wonder once again about the usefulness of Ayako. Is she nothing but a motherly figure (when she’s 23)? I have not seen her really being useful, and I really hope she can be more useful. Also, John has dropped to the extent that he becomes a helper hand rather than helping up seriously.
Quite depressing but I bet no one notices.
Impz added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 5:59 amNow that you mentioned it… John really hasn’t done anything for quite some time. Ayako, she has hope for redeeming herself, because she’s pretty much at the very bottom. I suppose even Bou-san is getting sort of not-doing-anything. Masako herself isn’t doing much either, although she’s still contributing in terms of plot and character interaction. John doesn’t do anything at all, though… he can’t go up or down. This arc is more of Lin and Mai’s powers. Maybe next arc (the last?) we’ll get to see Naru’s and Ayako’s powers, as they are the ones that have not done anything magical yet.
Briar added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 6:20 amI have a question for everyone. It’s an issue that has been puzzling me, and I can’t come up with an answer I find rational.
I believe that Naru fetched Masako’s comb in order to do a psychometric reading on it in the hopes of getting information about where Masako is located. (In other words, I think Naru did with Masako’s comb what the lady wanted the fake Davis to do with Suzuki’s contact lens case.) I suspect that Naru didn’t get much useful information from his psychometric reading because he seems to working towards finding Masako in a step-by-step methodical manner rather than someone who possesses some extra-ordinary insight into the situation.
But what I can’t figure out is this…
Why does Naru keep Masako’s comb?
I imagine things went like this. He fetches the comb from wherever he finds it (handbag, room, bedside table, whatever). He does a psychometric reading. He gets or more likely doesn’t get any relevant information. So why does he bring it with him?
You could say that he hasn’t done his reading yet and brings it with him to do later. But I’ll say, why wouldn’t he have done his reading? Why wait on doing the reading? In the Forbidden Game arc, he did psychometric readings on the desks as soon as he visited the classroom (ep 14). Why would he hold off reading Masako’s comb as soon as he fetched it? I don’t think he would wait. It doesn’t make any sense to me. So I must conclude that he did a reading as soon as he got the comb.
Which brings me back to the question I can’t come up with a rational explanation for? Why does Naru carry Masako’s comb with him?
LKK added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 8:41 am@Impz & Briar: John has had his uses (like in the Christmas special), and i guess he’s not doing much because there hasn’t been anything possessed lately. Bou-san and Ayako will be quite useful in the next arc. plenty of stuff done in the next five episodes.
i have to stop talking now because i know too much.
noblsheep added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 9:29 am“and theres a Q tht has been bothering me, if DR naru has the power to enter mais’ dreams then why not entering his brother head ( in assumption tht he’s his dead twin) and warn him,or to enter lin-sans’ head since those two have gr8 powers…hmmm, cn any 1 help me with ths.”
Think: It would be rather awkward, wouldn’t it. You figure the rest out. >_>
“Why does Naru keep Masako’s comb?
I imagine things went like this. He fetches the comb from wherever he finds it (handbag, room, bedside table, whatever). He does a psychometric reading. He gets or more likely doesn’t get any relevant information. So why does he bring it with him?”
Must be another one of those manga plotholes again. Pity I can’t seem to find book 10 in the correct language ’round here. >_>
I’d say he DID do a psychometric reading on the comb, tho - otherwise I don’t think they’d arrive in time to rescue the impulsive Mai.
But where he got the comb? Who knows - he could have found it on the floor in front of the house whilst Mai went running off.
“I think he said “shiki
A chicken passeth by added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 9:45 am@Impz, thank you for replying.. ^0^
“Hence, it is possible that Naru is able to tap into that conscious ability if he is really that powerful. I believe he is.
Oh weird, my comment was cut halfway..
@na2niet: oh pictures DO scare me. I have such a faint heart, sometime I even amaze myself how I managed to watch GH all these time. BTW, I haven’t seen any ghost movies for the past 5 years so u have it, I am such a scaredy cat >
in the end of the ep when mai was running behind naru she turns around and see something at the end of the path way, i thnk it was something white, nw is it urado? or somethn else? can u help me in ths.
laboosh added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 10:51 amWhoa Your site is great.
Well, I’m still waiting for the subs but about Naru possibily being Dr Davis, I don’t know, doesn’t Naru have that japanese eyes? I think Mai woud’ve mentioned if he was american or something else and I don’t remember her doing it. But I can always be wrong.
Bye.
Bruna added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 12:56 pmhey where r u guys? DJ? 13sugar? na2niet? cat? lkk?
wheres ur comments and theories? i need to read more^^
@ A chicken passeth : “But where he got the comb? Who knows - he could have found it on the floor in front of the house whilst Mai went running off.”
According to people who’ve read the text of manga v7, Masako says that the comb was in her handbag prior to her capture.
I believe that Naru fetched the comb immediately after the group decided to search for Masako. If you remember, Naru left the base first. John notices his departure and says something. I don’t know what. But I believe that is when Naru got her comb. In the manga, Naru and Lin leave the base together and say that they will meet up with the others in the hidden area of the house in a few minutes.
@ A chicken passeth : “In any case, Lin is more like them Taoist magicians …
The only reason why Lin is referred to as an Onmyouji is because that’s the only word the Japanese has for his family heritage. He’s otherwise descended from a family of taoist magicians, who have served in the ancient courts as astrologers. ”
I agree with you that Lin is not really an Onmyouji. Isn’t Onmy
LKK added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 2:51 pm*laboosh:thanks for asking, where are we?well as for me I’m just arrived from my work!and I’m sure 13sugars is working as well,and D.J she’s busy with her prince I think!shhhh
*laboosh :this is what you said to 13sugars “@ 13sugar: hey nice to c u was waitin for ur comment, and I support u 100% ^^”but have you done reading her last comments,like she like to bear children of Lin-san?you like to support that as well right!LOL
*danie:don’t worry your alone!but I can manage to look scary pictures!some of movies too!but at GH,I have no other choice than dragging some of my family members to give me company,but in return of that the punishment I will have!I have to do all the household chores!hehe!
now lets back to the main topic!I guess I have to re watched the GH!for me to understand the whole story!honestly some part of it,I can’t able to watched like that guy Urado in the bathtub jeez!scares me like hell!(LOL)
na2niet added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 2:53 pm~Bruna~ Wow, a new name! ^^
If I may, I’d like to offer my own conjecture about your question.
If Naru is indeed half-American or half-British, it is very possible that Mai wouldn’t have noticed it. It is actually quite common that an Asian’s genes are strong that most of the time a half-Asian person’s features are more Asian than the other half of his/her raise.
But then, it could also be the speculation that Naru was born Japanese and went overseas then just returned recently to Japan. ^^
I don’t really think Mai mentioned anything about it before probably because she isn’t certain of the things she knows of Naru
~Laboosh~ (blushes) Now I can understand Impz’s feelings of flattery. It really is pleasing to have people read your thoughts. Then have them share their own thoughts and want for more. ^^
Anyway, I also think that Mai saw Urado when she looked back because her eyes seemed to have widened in horror at the sight of that whitish-thingy.
~Danie~ I think it is very possible that the Society for Psychical Research is a non-profit organization. However, the Shibuya Psychic Research may not be the same sort of organiztion.
I’d go along on Impz’s statements that Naru is not solving the paranormal cases for free. For all that we know of Naru, President Shibuya Kazuo of Shibuya Psychic Research, I doubt he is a rich person who has tons of money to back up his research organization. Though Shibuya Psychic Research may be sponsored or funded, Naru is not the type of person who will just rely on such things.
~AChickenPasseth~ “Think: It would be rather awkward, wouldn’t it. You figure the rest out. >_>” (lol) At first I couldn’t get it, but when I did, I was crackin’ up.
I think you’re right about the proper term to call Lin-san; a “Taost master/magician,
ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 2:55 pm@ ThirteenSugars : “I’m assuming that Naru went there to get an item of Masako and decided to just take the comb along with him and go straight to looking for Masako instead of taking a full reading of the comb then go all the way back to the room to return the said item.”
Part of the problem in resolving this question is that we really don’t know how much time Naru needs in order to do a psychometric reading. I was working under the assumption that a reading is quick flash type of procedure requiring less than a minute, seconds only, to perform. That is how Naru reading the desks in the spoon-bending arc appeared to me. But I don’t know for sure.
If a reading really is a quick flash type of procedure, then Naru could have done a reading in the bedroom as soon as he touched the comb. There would have been no need to take the comb from the room in the first place as far as I can see.
However, if a reading takes longer than a few seconds to do, then Naru might have taken the comb with him in order to have it when he had more time to spend taking a reading.
LKK added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 4:03 pmFor those who like to hear from me!here I am,I have done re watched EP 21!since that I’m not really convinced that dream-naru!and I don’t see much differences between Naru-real vs.Dream-naru!except just the smile in their face,and thats all!I think that guy,you think he’s twin brother the a gr8t power of Naru!I’m sure of it!do you remember,Naru is already a Ghost before he meet Mai and the others,except Lin-san! so you mean,all the time he’s always depending of Lin-san abilities?I’m sure not!and that is he’s gr8t power!Maybe he is Dr.Davis?I don’t believed it either!jeez to be a doctor,it takes years to do that!and Naru is only 17 years old!he must be pretty genius then!
*laboosh:I think the white light you see,I think is Urado!you can hear the sound its the same of Urado’s creepy sound!
I’m also wondering why,Mai didn’t even mention to everyone that she’s dreaming of Naru!
na2niet added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 4:06 pmso Naru get the comb,and hand it over to his brother?I don’t know anymore?somebody help me!I need a doctor now!to examine my mind that turns upside down!LOL
na2niet added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 4:11 pmOFF-TOPIC COMMENT
~Impz~ “while 13sugars was swooning all over Lin,” I wasn’t swooning. I was…losing my mind? I guess that’s the right term but at least I’m happily losing my mind. (lol j/k)
~Na2niet~ (lol) I was only teasing about that. But come on, you have to admit that Lin-san is pretty cool, gorgeous and impressive. It makes me wonder what else is he good at, like, is he a good cook as well? (lol)
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~Laboosh~ “theres a Q tht has been bothering me, if DR naru has the power to enter mais’ dreams then why not entering his brother head ( in assumption tht he’s his dead twin) and warn him,or to enter lin-sans’ head since those two have gr8 powers…hmmm, cn any 1 help me with ths.
ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 4:32 pm@ ThirteenSugars : “Because I’m thinking, if Naru is Dr. Davis and his psychic abilities are as dangerous as the impression I get from Lin-san’s reactions, then using Naru’s powers as the last means would only be proper and make sense. At least to me it does. After all, with great powers come great responsibilities.”
I agree that Naru’s PK is something he doesn’t want to use for whatever reason, most likely because it’s dangerous. That’s why he asked Mai to not tell anyone especially Lin about the spoon-bending.
I’m not as sure that Naru’s psychometric powers are as equally dangerous though. He didn’t seem to hesitate to use psychometry in the spoon-bending arc. True, he was casual about it because there were all those other people around. But even making allowances for that, I didn’t get the feeling that psychometry was something he shouldn’t have been using. It just felt different than his spoon-bending demonstration.
I think we need to consider the idea that Naru’s different powers may have different consequences.
On a different note, if I were dreaming about my boss, I certainly wouldn’t want to tell anyone about it! I completely with ThirteenSugars on that.
LKK added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 5:04 pmOFF-TOPIC COMMENT
~Lkk~ (sighs) At least you’re dreaming about your boss. I, on the other hand, have been troubled by dreams of a writer I barely know! And darn it! His face is always shadowed. (lol) I can’t help myself by admire him, the guy is seriously talented in writing. (blushes)
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~Lkk~ You have a point about considering the dangers Naru’s pyschometric powers. The only guess I can give about that is; compared to the After-school Spell Caster arc, there were many people suffering while in this arc, Masako is only one person to which they’re not even sure if she is suffering. They only know that she is missing and they’re relying on her own abilities that she will be able to remain safe till they find her. I know it sounds cold but, as proven by the previous Forbidden Game arc, Naru really takes up drastic measures only when desperate times call and when many people are in dire need, and probably to him, when a certain number of people are already in danger, that’s when he really uses his powers. Probably. ^^
ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 5:30 pmCORRECTION–> “I can’t help myself but admire him,” and “You have a point about considering the dangers Naru’s pyschometric powers have.” ^^
ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 5:33 pmMan the LinFanGirls are coming out! Every new post I see on forums lately concerns someone new fangirling over Lin…honeysempai isnt gonna be happy
Ill stick with Naru ^^
@LKK: I know we’ve discussed it before in the manga thread so its nice to see other people actually put there 2 cents in on why Naru kept the comb.
@13sugars: Mai’s dreaming of Naru has changed though since she first began doing it on the first arc. Long gone are the days when she’d wake up and blush cuz she was dreaming of him again. Now it seems (well to me) that she expects him to be there or better yet its phased by it anymore. I think the best show of this was in the Prohibited Play arc when she say dream!naru and said to herself “he’s here too” kinda nonchalantly. Course Im not still surprised that she isnt telling anyone about dream!naru in particular but I am glad in this last arc she mentioned her dreams alot more then she had before…course if I had a dream where I was about to be killed Id be telling anyone who’d listen!
YamiKakyuu added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 6:04 pmLKK and A chicken passeth says: “I imagine things went like this. He fetches the comb from wherever he finds it (handbag, room, bedside table, whatever). He does a psychometric reading. He gets or more likely doesn’t get any relevant information. So why does he bring it with him?
Briar added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 7:06 pm@danie: Well, my speculation that they are getting paid is not based on any real evidence from the anime or manga (and I don’t read the manga anyway, manga freaks!). I presumed that it is likely that Naru in fact receives an amount because it will be extremely surprising with the sophistication and expensive equipment to be supported merely by funds.
Even true legitimate societies require a little fee and tons of charities to even get by, so it will really make very little sense for SPR to be a charitable organization.
That in fact is possible and I will not deny the fact that it is, but it will reduce some realism to the story. Yes, I know we are talking about an anime about ghosts, so realism should be thrown out of the window? No, ghost hunting is just that but the mechanism and how they address their people as clients does imply a bit of commercial venture and interaction.
@laboosh: I will presume that the white light that they saw before they escaped might be Urado. However, it might be one of the victims since the white spot might indicate the spirits that have died. I guess we can never make it out.
@13sugars: Actually, it will make a lot of sense for DreamNaru to tap onto Mai. Unlike Masako, who is also a receptive type of medium, Mai is perhaps a very novice ghost hunter who has no ability to technically reject or have any pre-notions of conflicting energy. In a way, think of her as a hollow body that acts as a vacuum for an analogy. No matter how much a vacuum does suck all the dirt away, the things inside will affect whatever attempts to come from the outside.
Hence, it will make sense for Dream Naru to enter Mai since she is perhaps the only person who has little to no spiritual defence, compared to the others who can at least fend their minds off. That will also prevent the attempt by Dream Naru to enter their minds. To add on, DreamNaru is able to meet up with Masako since if she is defending herself against Urado specifically, her mental strength will be weakened, hence allowing that mental fabric to be distorted.
In that case, the medium, who is Masako, is able to receive Dream Naru.
Lastly, I found the scene of Mai getting jealous at the end for the comb incident to be extremely amusing.
Mai: Why are you holding Masako’s comb?
Naru: *looks and turns away*
Mai: Not arguing or rejecting my point?!
Bou-san: Oh oh, someone is getting shy (Naru, that is)
Madoka: Oh, so someone is actually so concerned over Masako.
John: Oh, so kind of Naru.
Yasuhara: That’s such a good thing.
Mai: NOT!
Impz added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 7:25 pmThere’s too many comments that I ended up reading only a few. -_- Anyway, here’re my thoughts:
I’m leaning more and more towards Dream-Naru (DN) being a twin. As stated before, they have two different personalities, and since DN seems more friendly and outgoing, the “Naru” nickname might’ve actually started from him. ^^ (And Mai picked it up subconsciously? She is sensitive after all…)
Impz is right, in that the fact that they can’t do anything besides burn the house down adds a more realistic feel to everything. Can’t have Naru godmoding now, can we? -_-; It makes me feel kind of skittish about Urado, though. I mean, what if the house was a cage for Urado after all? It was already proven that he can’t touch anyone outside the house. Wouldn’t burning down the house free him? X( Crap, what a scary thought. But then again, his almighty tub room is gone, so there’s no place for him to bathe. o.o
I like how Mai’s power is growing, and that it’s slowly growing. Don’t want her glowing then knowing how to vanquish all evil all of a sudden. (Super Saiyan Mai! Haha! Hope I didn’t give everyone bad mental images. A muscular Mai. Geh. XP) Didn’t someone mention before that there’s a good possibility Naru kept Mai as an assistant because he recognized Mai’s abilities? Better that Naru can monitor her growth (and maybe get some use out of her at the same time ;P) than have her go rampant. Of course, this can lead to more NaruxMai situations. “No Mai, you have to do it like this.” “…Like this?” “Yes, just like that… A bit more…” Mwahahaha! (In reality: “Mai you’re like a gorilla. You need to learn control. Lin, teach her.” XP) But it is good that Mai’s growing more confident with her abilities. Besides, in life and death situations, she’d prolly do the most she can even if it’s something as “silly” as talking about her dreams. I can’t wait to see the moment Mai willingly goes to sleep with the purpose of finding out more about a case.
Why did Naru keep the comb? Let’s see… If Naru knows that DN exists, and they talk to each other in their dreams (albeit not as much as DN can talk to Mai, hence Naru not knowing where Masako is), then he’ll know to have something of Masako’s in order to have DN find her and guide them to her. That or being Dr. Davis, he’s trying to locate her himself, only Mai beat him to it. (If Naru really did have a twin, then isn’t it also possible that his twin was Dr. Davis? Seems like DN has more abilities than Naru. This would also be why they want to find out who’s been mascarading as Davis and tarnishing DN’s reputation.) And Impz, we all know you’ll only give cookies to those that say “Oh, it’s because Naru really loves Masako.” XP Nothing else can make a fanboy happy.
I really don’t think Naru feels anything resembling love towards Masako. Even Masako said so herself. Naru doesn’t like people knowing his weakness, possibly unless he told them himself. And Mai prolly gets points for not being into Naru (yet ^^). I doubt Naru’s the type to like fangirls. Plus, since Mai’s so kind to offer Masako any comfort, it makes Masako want to hate her more (although she really doesn’t).
The one thing that I really like about this episode is Mai and Masako’s relationship. (Forget Naru! Let’s go for a yuri pairing! \ ^o^ / Ehehe, jk. ^.~) Seriously, I really love the scene where Mai gives Masako her key and says “I promise I’ll come rescue you!” (or some sort) and Masako’s trust in Mai. They’ll be really good friends in the future. (Hmm… Ayako seems to have taken the role of older sister instead of the love/hate friend. Or maybe the mother role, and Bou-san’s the father? What about John? T.T John, you’re only an extra!)
Something came to me just now. Since Masako is a really good medium, and we’re assuming that DN is Naru’s twin, could she have found that out and that’s “Naru’s weakness” that she’s been talking about? I can understand why Naru would dislike her for knowing that. Twins usually have a very tightly closed relationship, forbidden to outsiders, unless one of them lets the outsider in (with permission from the other). Masako finding something like that out would put her in a very bad light. This could also be why DN was able to talk to her. Since they’ve met before, they’ve opened a connection between them that allows DN to talk to her. (Was it said before that this episode was the first time they saw each other?)
Why is everyone so surprised about Lin’s shikigami? It was revealed that he’s an onmouji right? I immediately thought “Ah, Tokyo Babylon” when I saw Lin do that. -.-
Does Naru have powers or not? He prolly does, but is not adept at controlling them (Mai: “Who’s a gorilla now? If I’m a gorilla, you’re a raging dinosaur. -_-”) and brings more harm to himself. DN (assuming he’s a twin) prolly had more control of his powers and helped a lot more with solving cases. Naru could’ve been relegated to technical support. This could be why DN died and Naru didn’t. DN was put in more danger because of his powers, and now Lin and Naru’s parents are overly protective of Naru because they don’t want him ending up like DN. Maybe.
Well. That’s all I can offer for now. More speculations added to the already heaping pile of speculations. Let’s have a potluck! \ ^o^ /
(It would prolly say: “SPAM! Please wait until the mods figure out if your comment has relevant content or is just full of SPAM! You can email them if you want, but that won’t do any good, really. XP”
Impz, I hate this comment box. -.-)
@Thirteensugars, I’m open to any and all theories on DreamNaru. I hope we get to find out by the end just what he’s all about!
@laboosh, thank you! I’ve enjoyed your insights as well. Sorry I’ve been rather busy today. Work and homelife have been hectic hehe and yes as na2niet says I have been snuggled up with my prince, its my happy place. ^-^
@LKK, the reason he still has the comb in his possession could be as simple as he never found a good time to sneak it back into her things. I don’t believe she knew he had it, and if it had not fallen out and gotten picked up, he probably would have replaced it without her knowing. He definetely didn’t want the others knowing he had I’m pretty certain on that point ^-^
As to psychometric reading, I’m not sure on how long that might take either. It could be with some that they get a flash as soon as they pick up the object, or maybe with Naru he was using it like some sort of psychic dowsing rod. That is the nearer they got to Masako the stronger the reading he would get from it. If that makes any sense.
I also agree it would be very embarrassing if one were dreaming about one’s boss. Thankfully I don’t have that problem. Considering he and hubby-sama are best friends it would be wierd. Although they do look similar actually I get teased at work that we have a thing because of that. Grrrr my heart is only for hubby-sama and hubby-sama alone. Sorry got sidetracked. I do have very vivid dreams though, they are actually quite fun, its like mini movies going off in my head every night. Although the CSI one was rather creepy and disturbing…
As for the white thing following them, it could have been Urado, or possibly perhaps a spirit, or spirits of people he had murdered. Considering they had disturbed the room their bones were being housed in, which had probably been sealed to keep them in right?
Hmm I’m partial to Lin because of his voice, but I don’t deny Naru’s yummy too! ^-^ Its funny though for all the dark haired hotties I like, I married a blonde haired blue eyed man! However I have to like Naru, because he reminds me of hubby-sama in a few respects.
@Impzy, very funny and especially nice considering the serious tone of this arc. It was nice to see Mai pull a few of her faces. ^-^
D.J added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 8:39 pmAm I the only one left who is still stubbornly clinging to the theory that Dream Naru IS Real Naru’s subconsciousness? 
And I’m going to go on clinging to it, until and unless I’m proven wrong.
Regarding MadHatter saying that Dream Naru and Real Naru has totally different personalities being the basis of them being two different entities, I have to add my two cents.
I believe that Dream Naru is the other side of Real Naru, the private Naru that he doesn’t show to everyone, the Naru that he keeps inside perhaps restrain. The fact that Dream Naru is kind, gentle, caring, and concerned are ALL sides of Real Naru that he doesn’t show to other people. ie, Real Naru is also kind, gentle, caring and concerned, but he doesn’t show it and represses it in himself. Freud would call Dream Naru “Id”. Evidence of Naru really being kind? Well, the scene where Naru and Mai fall down into the sewers is the one I have in mind. Also, the little things that Naru said during the cases that shows he is actually very concerned about people, but doesn’t (know how to?) show it.
I also believe that Dream Naru exists because of Real Naru’s powers. I hypothesize that Real Naru has powers, a lot of powers, but he doesn’t use them for some reason. In fact, he represses his powers as well. Hence Dream Naru is a manifestation of that repressed power, also exhibiting the character traits that Real Naru has repressed as well.
In short, Dream Naru is the subconscious manifestation of Naru’s power while exhibiting the traits that he does not show to the world.
Am I convincing anyone? Join my camp (with one member so far) of Dream Naru equals Real Naru!
Briar added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 10:29 pmhi Impz. may i noe where did u dl the anime with chi sub from, since i cant wait for the eng one. thanks.
~Impz~. “Mai is perhaps a very novice ghost hunter who has no ability to technically reject or have any pre-notions of conflicting energy…Hence, it will make sense for Dream Naru to enter Mai since she is perhaps the only person who has little to no spiritual defense.
ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 11:48 pm@ na2niet: yeah i read 13sugar comment, and um deffinetly gonna be happy for her and lin-san (lool), hey sugar can u ask lin if he has any brothers or cousins tht looks like him? lol, i don’t mind at all.
@ 13sugars: um with ur opinion tht its sooooo embarrassing to tell ur boss,even ur colleague,tht ur dreamin bout him (blushes)
@ DJ: in my country when someone comes from his work we say alla yateek el afia,which means( may god always give u health)^^.
i just wanna say tht i think mai knows of her feelings towards naru, bt she refuses to acknowledge them,maybe shes scared or embarrassed, bt i believe and i know tht the reveal of both naru and mais’ feelings z gonna be gr8 >
i am ashamed to call myself a fan of ghost hunt when it took me until today just to watch it! i can’t believe that i totally forgot to watch it the moment the raws came outT_T i’m feeling rather depressed at the moment to comment a lot…
altho i can say that i support i think it was @13sugars who said this but correct me if i’m wrong, that naru is dr. davis due to the fact that naru used psychometry on masako’s comb. dr. davis is known to be psychometric plus he got an honorary degree at a very young age and naru is young, smart, genius…
also i think at this point, masako would acknowledge mai’s skill as a psychic considering that they met in a dream and mai gave her that key. she might see mai as an equal more than ayako, although this doesn’t mean that their rivalry over naru would be any less. in fact i predict it’ll become even more fiery!
beingmeyuki added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 8:37 amscanning through the pics above again, i just realized that Madoka and Yasuhara look great as a couple^_^ altho he might be too young and Lin might not be too happy about that possibility either…
beingmeyuki added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 8:45 am@madhatter: I will think that the burning of the house will cause the whole place to be demolished and force the spirit to move on. In a way, fire seems to be the method of disposal. I guess the house is perhaps like a medium in which Urado uses to trap his victims. With the house burned down, everything is released. I am not sure though and I will like to see someone try and explain why the use of the burning house will be the way to get rid of the spirits.
About the secret being the twin, wah, you deserve a virtual cookie just for that thought. I never really expected it and you just gave me some wild ideas once again. Hmm, if so, it will make sense since it is a weakness and pain that he does not want to deal with, yet Masako knows it. Even if she does not want to exploit it, it is problematic since this power can be dangerous. I believe that Naru has intentions to hide any powers he wielded since the last time he did, Lin nearly went bonkers.
@Qiqilim: Even though 13sugars entertained your request, other people who are keen to find a download can email me instead at thatblog@gmail.com since we follow a strict policy not to discuss where “i can get this download” question. Thanks ^_^
@13sugars: The difference between Mai and Yasuhara is that Mai has an untapped source of ESP Abilities that allows us to receive messages, yet not being resistant over the attempt. Yasuhara for now shows no apparent ESP abilities and will not be logical as a means to convince others. The fact that Mai has powers that allows such thoughts to process in her head makes her a much better “victim” to tap on.
@Briar: convincing arguments but my head isn’t processing it for now due to my head being a little dizzy. It does make a bit of sense but the logic of the pained look will not be possible to incorporate and hence create another mystery. If I am a writer, I will try to focus a plot hole with a single focus, one fact that will bind everything together, yet a single piece will not tell much of the story. That will make people think and piece it up rather than having two pieces. That to me is one of the flaws in the deduction.
To end off with Madhatter’s quote.
“No Mai, you have to do it like this.
Impz added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 9:17 amAm I the only one left who is still stubbornly clinging to the theory that Dream Naru IS Real Naru’s subconsciousness? And I’m going to go on clinging to it, until and unless I’m proven wrong.
@Briar, you aren’t alone. But there are some reasonable arguments for an against that propostion, which is probably why it seems like you are the only one.
And I did just think of another reason for it maybe not being his subconcious. For as smart and aware as Naru is I don’t think Dream Naru would be something he is unaware of if dream Naru is a part of himself. Of course that doesn’t mean that he isn’t a part of Real Naru. Maybe Naru is very aware of Dream Naru, which would be nice since that would mean he’s CHOOSING to mainly visit Mai. ^-^
@Laboosh, I know my work day would feel better sometimes if I were greeted with that. But its not all bad, hubby lets me vent my day out and if its especially bad I get a great big hug and kiss I’ll feel down to my toes. Of course when he was wooing me I’d get roses too… But his kisses beat flowers any day of the week.
@Impzy, shame on you! Everybody we need to hold an intervention. Impzy needs help, he keeps hanging on to this delusion that Naru and Masako belong together.
Mai x Naru all the way!
D.J added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 9:54 amp.s beingmeyuki, I agree. I totally had the same thought when they were standing together. Yasuhara and Madoka are a totally cute couple. They even seem to have the same sort of humour. Given how they both like to tease! ^-^
D.J added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 9:55 amYasuhara and Madoka do look good as a couple, but I am definitely not alone on the Masako X Naru. Where are all the fans of the pairing when I need their support. Am I going to bow down to the evil forces of persuasion, coercion and conformist behavior?
NO, NEVER!
I will continue on and fight on! Masako x Naru!!!!!
@DJ: Well, if it’s his subconscious behavior, it will really not matter whether Naru is smart or dumb since the subconscious does mean that the conscious self has no idea that it’s actually happening. That will be a weak argument against that logic.
Impz added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 10:15 am@Impz, nooooo Mai x Naru forever.
Ahh, I didn’t express my thoughts well.
I just meant that given the type of person Naru is I don’t think he’d be unaware of something like that within himself. But you are right, if dream Naru is part of his subconcious then his conscious self wouldn’t have a clue. Rather like me when I used to sleepwalk! ^-^
That’s it, I need some vanilla tea, my brain is too tired, its been a long week.
D.J added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 11:13 amOFF-TOPIC COMMENT
~Laboosh~ (lol :P) I will definitely ask, Lin-sama. ^^ As for the person I’m dreaming about, he’s not my boss (I think Lkk is the one who is dreaming about her boss). I barely know who he is. I just know that I’m attracted to his writing skills and that I’m dreaming ‘bout him though it’s really annoying because I can’t seem to stop thinking ‘bout him in daytime too >_
ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 2:22 pmCORRECTION–>OFF-TOPIC COMMENT
~Laboosh~ (lol :P) I will definitely ask, Lin-sama. ^^ As for the person I’m dreaming about, he’s not my boss (I think Lkk is the one who is dreaming about her boss). I barely know who he is. I just know that I’m attracted to his writing skills and that I’m dreaming ‘bout him though it’s really annoying because I can’t seem to stop thinking ‘bout him in daytime too >_
ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 2:33 pmFor cryin’ out loud!
ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 2:34 pm~Laboosh~ Anyway, do correct me if I’m wrong but the words you said to DJ gives me the impression that you’re Lebanese. My best friend is actually Lebanese and I’ve always thought that they’re awfully pretty people. ^^ (It’s always a shot in my ego every time we go out together. She’s like this tall-super-pretty girl and I’m like the petite-don’t-even-bother-to-look-at-handmaid or something. Lol)
~Beingmeyuki~ “i am ashamed to call myself a fan of ghost hunt when it took me until today just to watch it!
ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 2:35 pm@Thirteensugars “(lol) How very true. But don’t worry. One way or another, by hook or by crook, Impz will give in. I will bet my whole sweet heart on it.”
I can only hope that you are right! They do say its the quiet ones. I bet beneath that cold exterior Lin-sama is brimming with held in passion! ^-^
“petite-don’t-even-bother-to-look-at-handmaid” Oh I felt like that all throughout highschool next to my friend who was a leggy blonde.
Turns out plenty of guys find petite irresistable too! ^-^ So don’t sell yourself short! (No pun intended).
Back on topic. About burning down the house. Pagans believe that fire has purifying properties. So burning down a place filled with spirits would cleanse it and break any residual spells. So this was probably something similar.
D.J added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 5:53 pmWhat episode are we on? 21? Was it said before that there will only be 26 episodes? God, I hope not. T.T That’ll be too sad. And then we might never find out who DreamNaru is.
About dreaming of co-workers, has anyone here gotten into a “romantic” mood (erm, not the platonic type of romance… I really don’t want to say it out right since it seems too vulgar… -_-) then suddenly an image of a gnarly ugly looking co-worker (say the muscular tattoed bald guy who works unassumingly in a corner) pops up in your mind and totally ruins the mood? T-T Goodbye lovely yuri scenes. Hello Mr. T. (”Kids, it’s bad to play with yourself!” Xc Dude, totally ruined everything…) Makes me celebate for days on end. Crappy images of co-workers…
Briar, I haven’t totally disregarded the DN=Naru theory just yet. I was actually thinking that Masako might’ve found out how powerful Naru really is (since Naru has the ability to go into dreams etc.) and that could also be the “weakness” that she’s talking about. But then, Naru can be kind and still have a different personality from DN. Let’s say their parents raised them to be decent human beings, it just turns out that Naru doesn’t act as friendly as DN. He could be the grumpy teddy bear type. Or a cat. Hmm… Naru’s really more like a cat, isn’t he? Aloof but fluffy. ^^
When I want to watch something or read something, I search as hard as I can, even going so far as to traverse the maze of a network that is IRC. I haven’t failed to find something, until now. There’s this one Rurouni Kenshin fanfic that I can’t find no matter how long I search. X/ It’s been frustrating me so much. Anyway, just google “Ghost Hunt ep __” and you’ll find what you need.
ThirteenSugars-san, no I don’t write fanfics. (I’ve written two CCS one-shots a long time ago, but those were borderline angst. ^^; ) I can’t seem to find the time. -_- But I do have tons of plot bunnies. They seem to be copulating under my bed and feeding on the dustbunnies, so I get an influx of ideas for fanfics. I’ve even got a fic idea for La Corda D’Oro, and it promises to be a very good romance/drama one. If only I can get my lazy bum to start writing… Thank you very much for the compliment, though. It made me really happy. (Yes, this is how depraved I am. -_-) I don’t know about writing comedy. I can’t write something funny consciously. ^^;; Most of the time, I mean to be sarcastic, but people start laughing instead. (This happens IRL so much, it boggles my mind. My older sister just pats me on the head and continues laughing. -.-)
I posted in episode 20 that Mai’s not the type to indulge in crushes. Despite her looks, she is actually very practical. (Supporting yourself at that age and still go to school is not easy. I know.) This is what I meant when I said she’s not into Naru yet. (Don’t believe me. I was high at the time from the cold/sniffles/headache I had. I’m just trying to squeeze my way out of this. ^^;) But Mai is the stubborn type, so I agree with what you said about Mai’s Freudian twisting. (I’m high again, so please ignore whatever nonsense I spout.) She’d prolly deny being in love with Naru until the very end. Hmm… Fanfic idea? The plot bunnies seem to be satisfied with the anime as it is. ‘Sides, I can’t imagine what the future would be like for Naru-tachi.
Frankly speaking, I don’t really much like the side of Mai that’s so fickly with her feelings for Naru. How can you be angry at someone who pays attention at another person when you’re not even acknowledging that you like them? But then again, feelings are very complicated so I’m cutting Mai some slack. (Nope, Masako’s still not suited for Naru. XP Sorry Impz.)
Beingmeyuki, I think Masako has acknowledged Mai as an equal even before (the Kokkuri-san ep, I think). It’s just that now, Masako put some trust in Mai, and they were more like friends than ever before. And proud as Masako is, I don’t think she ever considered Ayako an equal. ^^;;; A colleague maybe. But then again, they have two very different abilities, so mayhaps there was no such thing as “considering equal” at all.
MadokaxYasuhara sounds really good. ^^ I doubt Madoka’s the type to mind age differences. And sometimes, same attitudes make a relationship better. Although… AyakoxBou-san!!! Don’t their fights just scream pent-up lust? I can do a one-shot for those two, definitely. XD (Erm, Lemon anyone? But then again, I have too much La Blue Girl in my mind right now for it to be a nice romantic fanfic. It’s all those monsters, I tell you.) Hmm… Or a YasuharaxMaixNaru fic? I don’t know about Lin… He doesn’t like Japanese, right? Lin can be 13sugars-san’s instead. ^^
Impz, didn’t Naru say that they weren’t spirits so much as demons? If I was Urado, burning down my tub room would piss me off very much. I’d hold on even more, and not pass on. But then again, you said “force the spirit to move on” so if they’re forced, then I guess they can’t do anything about it, can they? DJ-san’s post made me feel safe, though. (Haha, Grudge!Urado will come get you! But seriously, doesn’t it feel somewhat like that? Except, instead of hate, it’s greed for life.) I got the virtual cookie! Yay! \ ^o^ / Cookie monster was my second favorite, right below Oscar the grouch.
Masako and Naru are both too proud to have a “learning” session. XP (Okay, reality would prolly be like this: “Mai you’re doing it wrong. Look at how Hara-san does it. …Hara-san, don’t do it too much. You’re missing the point entirely.” … “Lin, take over. I have a headache. -_-”)
Will you eventually give in, Impz? O.o Hmm. I doubt it. Fanboys are known to be stubborn. The only thing that will make you admit defeat is… when you’re faced with the truth! Mwahaha! ^o^ / NaruxMai will be cannon! (…Or the anime and manga will end up with zero pairings. X/ Hate when that happens.)
I have a question about Urado’s henchmen. How did he keep them with him? Was it a curse put on them, or did they actually like killing people as well?
Also, does anyone find the manga scary at all? Another reason why I like the anime is that the bgm allows the story to be as scary as it can be. Although, there is one manga that achieved a level of scariness. Dawn Tsumetai Te can be pretty creepy at some points. (Creepier than Ghost Hunt, definitely. But that’s prolly because there’s no comedy at all.)
That’s it for now. Let me add to Impz’ dizziness with more comments. ^^ (I’m dizzy now too…)
MadHatter added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 7:35 pm@ MadHatter : “I have a question about Urado’s henchmen. How did he keep them with him? Was it a curse put on them, or did they actually like killing people as well?”
If I understand things correctly, Urado’s 2 henchmen were the only servants who worked at the mansion for several years. I think there’s a comment made how the rest of the staff changed frequently but those two were consistent.
From that, I figure that they were helping Urado willingly. And most likely because they enjoyed helping with the murders, not just because they were being paid to do it. After their deaths, they kept on helping.
LKK added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 7:44 pm@Lkk: I was about to say the same thing to MadHatter before you gave the same answer that I wanted to say. I like to add that they might also have been promised of eternal life by Urado as well, which is perhaps why they are still around to do his bidding. Whatever it is, the two servants are perhaps as disturbing as Urado. The quest for eternal life generally leads to mere suffering. Humans are never meant to live forever.
@13sugars: I know of many guys who will think that tall women are rather intimidating. Petite girls are nice
@Madhatter: I wouldn’t say that Masako and Mai’s powers are very different. They might go through a different style, but the output is definitely the exact same way. It’s like doing two things in a different way but still in the same job scope, unlike the others whose specialization is clearly different from receptiveness and the likes.
Impz added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 8:16 pmImpz says: “@Briar: convincing arguments but my head isn’t processing it for now due to my head being a little dizzy. It does make a bit of sense but the logic of the pained look will not be possible to incorporate and hence create another mystery. If I am a writer, I will try to focus a plot hole with a single focus, one fact that will bind everything together, yet a single piece will not tell much of the story. That will make people think and piece it up rather than having two pieces. That to me is one of the flaws in the deduction.”
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Impz, can you explain what you are saying? I think my brain has been fried, because I just didn’t understand what you are saying. *embarrassed*
If someone can gather all the evidence/hypothesis of Dream Naru = Real Naru, I’ll get to work rebutting/making roadblocks immediately. I just don’t like the idea of Mai being in love/infatuation with two person at the same time. You know in Ouran High School Host Club, how Hikaru and Kaoru played a trick on some girl who was expressing her love for one of the twins (I forgot which)? It just seems to me that it’s important to establish twins as individual entities, even though they look the same. Otherwise we will be like that girl who didn’t really care which twin she wants.
I do have another question. In the preview for next week’s episode, it’s said that the next episode is the next story arc of the house thing. But on wiki it says that the next episode is a (filler?) episode called “Go Go Go Ghost Hunters” or something like that. Which is it, exactly?
Briar added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 8:17 pm“In the preview for next week’s episode, it’s said that the next episode is the next story arc of the house thing. But on wiki it says that the next episode is a (filler?) episode called “Go Go Go Ghost Hunters
beingmeyuki added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 8:57 pmThe next episode is “Go Go Go Ghost Hunters, and then File #9 Cursed House will start.
Wah, it marks the beginning of the end. (pout)
Madhatter, I’m glad my post made you feel safe. ^-^
D.J added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 8:58 pmWell, DJ, I am not sure whether it is go go go ghost hunters since the next week’s preview is File #8 cursed house. They might have omitted the go go go hunters episode for some other purpose. No idea though =3
@beingmeiyuki: Agreed, I am surprised how she has such a good view of things because I don’t think I have that form of special ability to. My brain tends to stop thinking after a while, which is always the case ;_;
Sigh ^+^
Impz added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 9:20 pm@Impz, well I guess all we can do is wait and see. Though the wait is torture!
And I have to agree with you both on ThirteenSugars, I always look forward to her posts.
*Just to make you blush even more ThirteenSugars, you just sound so cute!*
D.J added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 10:17 pmImpz, when I said maybe there wasn’t even a “considering as an equal” thing for Masako, I was talking about Masako seeing Ayako as an equal.
Hmm. I think Masako’s ability has more to do with sensing spirits, a very specific ability. Mai’s is a broader type of sensitivity. Godmode!Mai! Hah. ^^;
X/ Only 26 eps? They better be making more. It’s hard to make a fanfic of Ghost Hunt since we’re not really just after the characters and their relationships. Prolly why I’ve never had any idea for a multi-chapter fic. There’s no such thing as a purely romance fic for GH. There has to be the scare factor as well. Geh. Now what will I watch after this? Even Corda’s about to end too. (But that I can stem with HinoXLen daydreams. Nyahaha!)
Wonder what they’ll have for the ending? It’ll be pretty crappy if they really are ending it with only 26 eps. Since it’s pretty much been a “case of the day” type of anime, there wouldn’t be any closure for the characters, would there? There wasn’t even much of a build up for entire-story-plot, and since Urado-Arc has been really great, if they show a filler next, that’ll just kill the momentum of the anime. Although, they might just use the last couple of episodes for an arc that will totally leave us wanting for more. (Anyone who wants to see Naru use his power, raise their hand!)
MadHatter added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 10:49 pm~Briar~ I really doubt that Mai is infatuated with DreamNaru at all. The nice DreamNaru probably gives Mai hope, or a glimpe, that maybe RealNaru is not as aloof or as calculating as he presents himself to be to most people, including her, though we, Mai in her heart as well, know RealNaru isn’t like that at all. As far as I can tell, Mai has always been attracted to the RealNaru only, though she is struggling to completely acknowledge her feelings for him, and I actually think that DreamNaru makes Mai more attracted to RealNaru by not letting her forget that she doesn’t really know RealNaru very well yet; that Naru has a sweet and nice side un-shown to other, and that RealNaru could just be protecting his heart by being distant to others. ^^
An example would be, if I asked a question to the writer I have a crush on and he answers me with only a short reply then later on I’d dreamed that he answered my question and included a compliment and a little bit about himself, then I’m definitely going to like him more when I wake up ^^. (Hmmm, my example may not make sense to others…)
Either way, it’s always nice to read your different insight in giving support to the Mai x Naru love-love pairing supporter.
Anyway, about the next episode, someone actually told me that the Ghost Hunt episodes were cut from 26 to 25 though I’m not really sure. But when I found out about this tidbit, it actually made me feel a bit murderous. (sighs)
~DJ & Impz~ (lol) You people are very sweet, but truthfully, I like myself being petite. Only thing is, most petite girls are petite everywhere (coughflatcough)and I fall under that category :P. But I guess that fact is actually good since I’m not really interested in attracting anyone at all. ^^ As I’ve also mentioned before, I’m not really fond of standing out too much. ^^
~Madhatter~ (raises both hands up) I wanna see that!
“Although… AyakoxBou-san!!! Don’t their fights just scream pent-up lust?
ThirteenSugars added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 11:03 pmThanks 13sugars. Yeah, about that half-asian thing, I thought about it while writing. Actually I guess I didn’t mention it afraid Mai had said something about it. I have a really bad memory… ¬¬’
One thing I wonder, every case Naru gets, or at least the most important ones, we get to see John and the rest of the guys there too. Yeah sometimes they’re called to it but not everyone right? I know once John brought them to that church… But just that occasion(Is it correct? The way I wrote it? I’m Brazilian… Hence the name. I don’t like my name, although I thing 13sugars is weirder. Hahaha! I imagine what a person might give you for birthday. A 14th sugar? ….I’m so stupid. And off topic!). So… who calls all of them?
C ya.
Bruna added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 11:37 pm~Bruna~ I think Naru calls for all of them, or rather, he orders Mai to call them to help SPR solve each case. The reason that sometimes not all of them appear is because the others (Bou-san, Ayako, Masako, John and now probably Yasuhara too) aren’t full-time ghost-hunters like Naru and Lin are, probably Mai as well but she is Naru’s part-time go-get assistant. ^^
Helping out SPR solve its cases are what the other ghost-hunters do in their free-time. That is how I understood things from the anime. ^^
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As for your name, I didn’t find it weird, incorrect or anything when I first saw it. I just thought that there’s a new commentor here again which is definitely a good thing ^^. Anyway, you are right. I guess the ThirttenSugars-name might seem weird to others (lol). But there was someone here who actually guessed correctly which anime I referenced it from. I think it was Psychicotaku182. As for birthday gifts, you just reminded me of my upcoming b-day on May. Can’t believe time flies by so fast. (sighs) And although I don’t really receive sugars as gifts, I do usually receive sweet things and gestures. ^^ I’m not really a hard-to-please person. (lol)
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13sugars: Actually we never designated Impz as a trap, it’s all the other animebloggers who have never seen that did so.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Mar 03 07 at 1:39 amThen I stand corrected. ^^ (I only used that question to divert the spotlight away from me. I meant no offense. ^^)
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hey 13sugar, lol, um not a lebanese actually um jordanian but dont worry lebanon z our neighbors^^.
and how did u know tht um tall(lol)? petite girls are so sweet and brlieve me i know tht guys prefere the petite type, right impz??
u know wt u keep reminding me of my little sister, i dnt know bt u give me the impression tht u 2 have the same personalities^^
and um with DJ, Impz, and Briar, ur comments rock girl^^
oh yeah guys wish me luck um gonna start my new job tomorrow,XD. i need all the luck in the world,lol naaa i know tht um good (j/k) see ya
laboosh added these pithy words on Mar 03 07 at 1:51 amOkay, I don’t really have much to add