
Let’s have an exercise in futility: ranking the Espada. There have been many number theories and mathematical sequences generated in order to create a logical order to the ranking of the Espada but so far none have been correct. Because I’m bored, let’s talk about what you think the ranking of the Espada might be. There might be spoilers below so don’t click if you’re not caught up with the manga. I have included a picture of the infamous tea party table seating for reference (click for bigger).

Here’s my personal prediction on the ranking:
1. Ulquiorra
2. Nnoitra
3. Stark
4. Old Espada
5. Halibel
6. Grimmjow
7. Zommari
8. Szayelaporro
9. Aaroniero
10. Yammy
Bolded names are the confirmed rankings by manga. All the rest are based on gut feeling with no complicated number sequences or formulas, except for Noitora - I think he is #2 based on what he told Telsa. He thinks he’s the strongest Espada but yet he’s not recognised as the strongest, so this probably means he’s #2. And I think Ulquiorra is #1 because he’s so damn intelligent and analytical, and he is Aizen’s pet as well.
This is the current actual rankings as revealed by the manga, together with my new predictions:
1. Stark
2. Halibel
3. Old Espada
4. Ulquiorra
5. Nnoitra
6. Grimmjow
7. Zommari
8. Szayelaporro
9. Aaroniero
10. Yammy
So let me hear all your theories and predictions on the rankings of the Espada!
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When I saw the title, I thought you were going to talk about Granado Espada… LOL
CherylHew added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 12:15 amI like the pink haired guy who is that?and he’s quit handsome too!
but I guess I have to search all those characters,their not familiar to me!
Cheryl: Haha I thought that the picture might have hinted otherwise
na2niet: He is Zaelapollo Grantz, the Octava Espada.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 2:32 amEhh, you must explain your gut feeling! =p
I would rank the old man higher, they’re always the ones with the most power.
Still I agree with Ulq being the first ranked. His character is the most developed so far and there has to be a reason behind that. To be Aizen’s pet is not easy, you need some kind of standard at least hahaha!
On another note. Have you seen the Ulq/Aizen fics floating around? =p
invisible added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 6:43 amWell I already explained Ulquiorra and Noitora so I won’t go through them again. In anime cliche, the bored guy is usually one of the most powerful ones and there’s a certain parallel with Shunsui. I would have put him as #2 if not for Noitora’s words.
And also because of the old man power cliche, I made the old mustachio as #4 above the chick who is #5 because I think maybe the chick should be more powerful this time. I don’t like the look of the dark Espada so I just threw him into the remaining slot #7.
I don’t even want to think about the Ulq/Aizen yaoi fics but I’m sure there is lots of Ulq/Orihime h-doujins popping up around Japan already!
alkanphel added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 7:03 amEh, well, I use AnimeNano to check for new blog entries so XD
CherylHew added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 7:33 amOh no wonder ![]()
Well there’s always a chance that the anime cliche won’t prevail here.
“I don’t like the look of the dark Espada so I just threw him into the remaining slot #7.” –> You sound so biased here hahaha! What if KT throws us all in a loop and he is number 1? With the many twists, I wouldn’t be surprised if some random unknown espada is suddenly revealed to be number 1.
And I really don’t see the popularity of Ulq/Ori…its kinda disturbing. >
invisible added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 7:37 amRankings are always full of bias
And Kubo won’t throw us that kind of lame loop because his manga is all about the cool characters being the best
And that one looks the least cool, I would have put him at #10 if Yammy wasn’t there already!
Oh look 4 posts! I’m breaking my own record!
Anyway that’s true about the cool characters being at the top. But most charas in Bleach are cool anyway hahaha.
It’ll be super interesting to see whether your prediction comes true!
So really. Power rankings is equivalent to coolness rankings as well? XD
invisible added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 8:09 amYeah power = coolness! It’s always the small harmless dude that usually turns out to be the most dangerous one. The big bolstering fierce ones are usually the first to be beaten.
I hope at least my top 3 predictions are correct!
alkanphel added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 8:19 amYah look at Yammyyyyyyyyyyy. Not surprised he’s no 10 haha. Perhaps there’s a significance in why KT chose these 2 as the first one to come down to bug Ichigo and gang.
No 1 and No 10 together!
O yeah, I think your top 3 for the most part should be quite accurate. However Noitora could be over-estimating his own strength so he might not be no2.
invisible added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 8:31 amHahaha yah eh, I didn’t think of it that way - it’s the #1 and the #10 of the Espadas together! Well if Noitora is not #2 then Mr. Bored will be #2! That’s where I originally envisioned him to be.
I’m guessing we’ll probably find out #7 soon if Kubo decides to make Ishida meet the #7.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 8:38 amYup, it makes sense to send your best guy down right? I guess if you reread the manga again, there will be clues here and there that will point out Ulq’s ranking.. I really do strongly think that he’s number 1, based on character development alone.
I want to see whether your ranking for no7 is correct. You and your biasedness. I will laugh if he’s any higher than what you gave him. =p
invisible added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 8:55 amYeah Aizen is always sending Ulquiorra to do this and to do that. He places a lot of trust in Ulquiorra and thus that’s why Ulquiorra is #1 since Aizen knows he’s got the power to accomplish all those tasks.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Feb 28 07 at 9:32 amWhat is this anime/manga? I haven’t seen it…-_-;;;;
jewlmc added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 4:19 pmhooooooooly…nevermind! i found out! hahaha i’m such a dolthead……….
jewlmc added these pithy words on Mar 01 07 at 4:20 pmHoly o.o Nor broke her record? Lotsa comments xD
Anyway~ Haha jw, you explained to me your rankings before. I would go with your order, too. It makes a lot of sense, to be honest o_ob
Aezie added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 12:07 amAww man it’s no fun if everyone keeps agreeing with my order
There’s no discussion that way lol
I think the rankings are probably like this (some changes):
1. Ulquiorra
2. Noitora
3. Hot Arrancar Girl
4. Bored guy with gloves
5. Black guy with earrings
6. Grimmjow
7. Old guy
8. Zaelapollo
9. Aroniro
10. Yammy
Hot Arrancar Girl is #3 because I love strong women in anime/manga and I think she could very well be close to being #1 but doesn’t care about it as much as Noitora to brag about it and doesn’t want to be a pet to Aizen like Ulquiorra.
Leon added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 2:48 pmWell my top 10 would look like this:
1. Ulquiorra(it seems that he feets 1 spot best, but there is one thing that doesn`t fit here, when he come with yammy to “real world” he says/think:”When his reiatsu is low. it`s inconsequential.But when it`s high, it`s greater than mine”.So basiclly that means Ichigo got “top” reiatsu stronger than Ulquiorra, and that`s smth strange when we consider what Capt Hitsugai said “Bluntly put, a Vaste Lorde`s battle abilities are evan greater than captain`s.” so we got here Ulquiorra rank 1(let asume that is the case) being strongest , but same time having weaker reiatsu than Ichigo? Smth is not right here anyway if you see my point.
2. Bored guy with gloves (”low talking” char are always strong xD)
3. Brooding chick(there is only 1 “female” so she gotta be stong xD)
4. Old moustachio man(like some1 said it already “old” guys are always strong ![]()
5. Noitora
6. Grimmjow
7. Stone-face dude with skull earrings(he looks preatty weak to me tbh so about this spot i`m like 90% sure ![]()
8. Zaelapollo
9. Aroniro
10. Yammy
P.S.
Note that all this is based on feeling, I don`t evan read manga(can`t force myself to start from begining and can`t just start now xD)
Leon: Hahaha I did think that the arrancar girl might be very powerful as well but I got a bias for the bored guy because he looks kinda cool and reminds me of Shunsui also
Flamehaze: Yeah everyone agrees that Ulquiorra is #1. The part where he says that Ichigo’s reiatsu peaks higher than him, I think he was referring to a full hollow Ichigo rather than a Vizard Ichigo. Or maybe he was referring to Ichigo being higher than him unreleased. I’m surprised you put Noitora so low though!
alkanphel added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 10:14 pmalkan: The way Noitora speaks about being number one, like you pointed out, suggests heavily that he must be number 2, or at the very least number 3. I can’t imagine him being any lower.
Leon added these pithy words on Mar 02 07 at 11:42 pmLeon: Yup I agree. Maybe we will get to see the bored Espada interact with Ishida or Ichigo in the manga soon so that we can have an idea of his strength.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Mar 03 07 at 1:48 ami dont think Ulquiorra is the strongest, cuz one of the Espada said that no sword can cut through my skin after all i am the strongest Espada. I think it was the top left guy that said it.
R.J. added these pithy words on Mar 14 07 at 3:57 pmI have a theory:
Based on the pattern of: Yami #10, Zaelapollo #8, Grimjow #6
If we continue with even numbers around the table we have: Bored guy w/ gloves #4
Brooding Chick #2
Then starting with Aroniro #9
Mustache guy #7
Stone face guy #5
Ulquiorra #3
Noitora #1
I know its a reach but that pattern fits, Ulquiorra I always thought would be at least in the top3 and Noitora claims to be the strongest and if the pattern holds true then he would be.
scamps added these pithy words on Mar 25 07 at 9:38 amRJ: I think you’re referring to Grimmjow who isn’t the strongest Espada, he’s only #6.
scamps: Well that numbering theory certainly holds for the existing Espada. Only thin that stops Noitora from being #1 is that he says he’s not recognised as the strongest but he think he is. You can take it as the usual arrogance of bad guys. A few more Espada numbers might prove or disprove your theory.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Mar 25 07 at 10:21 amAccording to the table:
back to front
9 - 10
3 - 4
7 - 8
1 - 2
5 - 6
That’s my prediction.
y added these pithy words on Mar 25 07 at 11:17 amy: That makes Noitora #7 and Ulquiorra #5 which are both highly unlikely to me ![]()
I’d definitely rate Ulquiorra within the top 3!
this is just a guess off of my gut, but the one after is a pattern i looked at.
Gut order
1. sleep bored espada- he told Noitora to be quiet, and Noitora said nothing back
2. he isn’t afraid of anyone, but in one of the translations of the manga, he was worried about one person’s name that he almost slipped up with.
3. Ulquiorra- perfect for being used as a pet. 3 is not too high, which makes him useful for lower tasks, but at the same time, he has all others under him.
4. Dark skinned espada. from looking at the comments he makes, he’s not to egotistical. he gives straight answers. he’s about getting straight forward to get the task finished.
5. female espada. quiet and looks skillful, but sounded slightly worried when she heard about ichigo and his friends breaking in.
6. Grimmjow
7. old man- he could his number to throw you off. he sounds cocky, but this is just my gut feeling.
8. Zaera-Polo
9. Aaroneiro
10. Yammy
Pattern order- zig zag
10 yammy
9 aaroneiro
8 zaera-polo
7 noitora
6 grimmjow
5 ulquiorra
4 old man
3 girl
2 dark skinned espada
1 sleepy espada
oh snap! i just realized that my pattern theory is the same as alkanphel. btw, number 2 for my gut feeling order is Noitora. i forgot to put his name.
guest added these pithy words on Mar 25 07 at 8:34 pmactually that’s not alkanphel, that’s someone else lol that’s someone name “y.”
guest added these pithy words on Mar 25 07 at 8:38 pmalkanphel: I don’t see Ulquiorra top 3 and I definitely do not see Noitora in top 3.
y added these pithy words on Mar 25 07 at 11:54 pmWell, I think it can be said that Ulquiorra is definately in the top 5. After all, he is at least ranked higher than Grimmjow. Since he mentioned that Ichigo could at least equal him in power in hollow form, he may be number 5 (though he seems stronger than this, it wouldn’t really be a surprise if he was the 1st Espada. Not sure about the others. The tall dark Espada seems fairly intelligent and isn’t cocky at all, so I would assume that he’s in the top 5. Same goes for the girl; if she’s the only girl in the Espada, I would suspect her of being top 5 material. The quiet one is most definately top 5 material. Which leaves us with Noitora and the old Espada. I think one of them is the 7th Espada. On the one hand, Ishida may run into Noitora; if they fight (and Ishida has any chance of surviving) he would probably have to be lower than Grimmjow. Also, it’s possible that Ichigo will have a showdown with Grimmjow or Ulquiorra, so I don’t really think he will fight Noitora. On the other hand, Chad could always run into the Old Espada (who does happen to look a lot like Chad’s grandfather…). If this were true, he would have to be 7th Espada at the strongest for Chad to take him on. But aside from the 4 already revealed, Noitora, and the Old Espada, I’m pretty sure the others are all in the top 5.
Guest added these pithy words on Mar 27 07 at 4:48 pmOh, and don’t forget that Ulquiorra (based on his mask shape) is almost definately a Vasto Lorde level Espada… definately an arguement for his top Espada ranking, as Aizen seems to have big plans for the Vasto Lordes. We don’t know anything about the Menos classes of the other Espada (excluding Yammy- Adjuchas, and Aaroneiro- Gillian) except that they are above Gillian, so for all we know there could be more Vasto Lordes around.
Guest added these pithy words on Mar 27 07 at 5:06 pmHere’s a guess about the rankings for the Espada (keep in mind 5 and 7 could alternate, depending on which Espada appears on the scene first).
1. Ulquiorra
2. Bored Espada
3. Large Dark Espada
4. Female Espada
5. Noitora
6. Grimmjow Jaggerjack
7. Old Espada
8. Zaero-Polo Grantz
9. Aaroneiro Arleri
10. Yammy
Here’s my ranking for the Espada (keep in mind that 5 and 7 can change, depending on which Espada appears on the scene first).
1. Ulquiorra
2. Bored Espada
3. Large Dark Espada
4. Female Espada
5. Noitora
6. Grimmjow Jaggerjack
7. Old Espada
8. Zaero-Polo Grantz
9. Aaroneiro Arleri
10. Yammy
Heres My Rank Yo!
1. Ulquiorra - coz when Grimmjow was talking shit about ichigo “What if he gets stronger some shit like that” Ulquiorra said hes gon kill him by himself and grimmjow didnt say nothing back “speechless”
2. Noitora - Tyring so hard to be the strongest, probly jealous of Ulquiorra
3. Bored Arrancar - no comment
4. Arrancar Girl - She looks hella strong too
5. Old Arrancar - He looks stronger than Grimmjow
6. Grimmjow -
7. Nigga Arrancar - ionno
8. Zaero Polo Grantz
9. Aaroneiro Arleri
10.Yammy
Ulquiorra is most likely the top Espada (as well as a Vasto Lorde level Espada). Considering Grimmjow was speechless at Ulquiorra’s comment about finishing off Ichigo, he must be incredibly powerful. The quiet, bored Espada also seems powerful. Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think he spoke once at the meeting; this would make him the only member of the espada that hasn’t spoken yet. Also, I think everyone is underestimating the tall, dark Espada. For all we know, he could be the 1st Espada. Somehow, I suspect that he’s one of the top 5 (and he seems more observant and careful than some of the others, like Grimmjow and Noitora). Now, if Noitora happens to cross paths with Ichigo in the near future, Ichigo would be screwed if he was in the top 4 (if the same scenario was with Ishida and Noitora, 7th at the strongest for Ishida to win). I suspect that Noitora and the old Espada are the only real candidates for 7th place, but I could be wrong. Honestly, I suspect that Ulquiorra, the quiet Espada, the female Espada, and the tall dark Espada would be intelligent enough not to run out into battle carelessly. Yammy and Grimmjow would at least be able to better analyze the situation, though Grimmjow is extremely careless. Don’t forget that the old Espada does happen to look alot like Chad’s grandfather; I don’t really think it would be a surprise if this were the case (they already threw in the Aaroneiro-Kaien and Zaera-Polo/Il Forte Grantz connections). If this were true, and Chad had any chance of ever defeating him, he would have to be the 7th Espada. Then again, Noitora could be 7th too.
Guest added these pithy words on Mar 30 07 at 9:39 amnice observation. i always suspected the sleepy, bored espada to be in the top because of the fact that, he was the only espada that didn’t talk at the meeting. the only thing he said was be quiet, and that he was still sleepy to Noitora. This was before the meeing, and Noitora didn’t say anything back to him. I like your point though how u were saying that other espadas are basically recklessly running out into fights. Specific arrancar like Ulquiorra, dark espada, and female are more observant. at first, i thought the “being to careful” was a sign of inferiorty, but it shows more that the character would not take their opponent lightly if they fought, which is dangerous. other espadas had at least made one comment of cockyness before they knew their opponents. Noitora keeps trying to prove himself. Zaera-Polo in the beginning thought it would be entertaining if they broke into their room. Old man arrancar called them weaklings. Grimmjow was holding his grudge. Aaroniro rushed out into a fight. The female seemed cautious by her responses to Noitora. I thought she would be weaker like i said, but this sign of cautiousness can be a sign of how serious she is. Ulquiorra is just waiting. the dark skinned espada seems straight forward, wants to get the job done. sleepy espada doesn’t give a shit about anything, so my guess for him is that he is number 1. lol
guest added these pithy words on Mar 30 07 at 10:56 amI’d also like to think that the bored Espada is at the top but I think it’s more likely to be Ulquiorra because of how much trust Aizen places in him.
I would definitely not be surprised if the old Espada is Chad’s grandfather, with all the connections suddenly popping up.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Mar 30 07 at 11:21 amSpoilers for Chapter 269:
Well, now Aaroneiro is dead and we know the names of 2 more Espada. The female Espada is Halibell and the bored one is Stark. And it looks like an Ulquiorra vs. Ichigo battle is about to take place. Now if Ichigo has any chance of winning (and no one interferes with the fight) I would say that Ulquiorra would have to be the 5th Espada. Also, unless he intends to interupt this fight, Noitora is headed in Ishida’s direction. Noitora would be the 7th Espada for Ishida to have any chance of winning (though his zanpakuto does look extremely badass and powerful…). Stark, Halibell, the dark Espada, and the old Espada may be the top 4, though I still can’t shake the feeling that the old one is 7th. Infact, I’m expecting that Stark (in particular) and the dark Espada are the best candidates for 1st Espada. As cool as I think Ulquiorra is (and I’d really like him to be the 1st), he has already approached Ichigo; there is almost certainly going to be a battle (unless someone interferes), so 5th ranking at the strongest would be the only chance for Ichigo to win. It would make sense, since Ulquiorra did say Ichigo could at least equal him in power. I’m really interested by Stark though, somehow I think he’s very likely the 1st Espada. One thing to make note of: I don’t know how significant it is, but so far Noitora, Halibell, and Stark have been revealed to have servants (mini-espada?). Maybe significance of rank, maybe nothing, but I thought it was something to look out for.
Guest added these pithy words on Mar 30 07 at 8:01 pmI have a feeling that Ishida will encounter Stark instead of Noitora. Stark and Lilinet seem to be the reverse of Shunsui and Nanao in their personalities if you noticed. And all these Espada and their servants is too much like the captains and vice-captains.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Mar 31 07 at 12:24 amThe reason I think it’s Noitora is that he was heading for someone. Maybe he’ll interupt Ulquiorra’s fight. However, if he doesn’t, he’s headed in Ishida’s direction. What makes you think Ishida will run into Stark? Personally, I think Stark would be too lazy/tired to fight. Would be interesting; maybe it would have a similar outcome to the Chad/Shunsui fight earlier on. Honestly, right now, Stark doesn’t seem like that much of a bad guy. In fact, I’m hoping that he’s Espada number 1, which is why I’d like him to stay put and not get himself killed like Arroneiro did (and Zaero-Polo could). This Espada/servant thing is intriguing though. As far as I know, Ulquiorra, Grimmjow, Arroneiro, Zaero-Polo, and Yammy don’t seem to have them. Maybe it’s a hint of who the top 3 (or 4 if the dark Espada/old Espada has one) Espada are. Maybe I’m overanalyzing things, but with the probable Ulquiorra/Ichigo battle, I’m thinking Ulquiorra may not be as powerful as was originally let on.
Guest added these pithy words on Mar 31 07 at 6:15 amI’m curions about what will happen with the shift of ranks though. Will Yammy become the 9th Espada? Will Wonderwice, or some other powerful arrancar make it to the ranks of the Espada? Will they carry on like nothing happened and just have 9 Espada (or 8 if Zaera-Polo gets himself killed too)?
Guest added these pithy words on Mar 31 07 at 6:25 amMost of my thoughts are from a metaplot standpoint. The reason I think Noitora won’t meet Ishida is because the reiatsu he detected was probably Ichigo and also that we’ve seen him in ‘action’ already. Since everyone is/was in some sort of battle with an Espada except Ishida, he’s the next one to meet one of them.
The most likely one is Stark who has been highlighted in 269. I wouldn’t be surprised if the battle between them ended up like Chad vs Noitora. Since you think he is too lazy to fight, maybe Lilinet will fight in his place first but Ishida will overpower her and Stark will interfere.
I’m not thinking too much about the Ulquiorra/Ichigo battle because I think it will end up like Chad vs Noitora - overwhelming victory to Ulquiorra. I doubt Ulquiorra will even release to fight Ichigo.
Zaelapollo seems to have those 2 weird blobby servants called Lumina and Belona. Kinda fitting for a twisted arrancar like him.
It’s quite possible that Wonderwice will become #9 which is why he was introduced so long ago for no obvious reason…until now.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Mar 31 07 at 6:50 amChad retaliated after Tesla interfered in 263. Even though Noitora was on his way to find another power level, he could have possible decided to finish Chad off. they didn’t show wat happened. they cut to the next character. and if chad didn’t get knocked the hell out after Tesla’s interference, he may keep attacking because he’s already shown his persistence in all his fights. we’ve never seen him back down. he’s always fought until he had been beaten. the only time was when ichigo interfered, and he told him to leave. other than that, chad has fought all the way, and he’s still standing. there may be a continuation. i’m still keeping in mind though that it’s possible that Noitora will ignore chad and leave to run into ishida. for all we know, he may even find ichigo, and interrupt Ulquiorra.
as for ishida, i can see him running into the female, who is overlooking the building (plus he’s always fighting females lol), a slight chance of Stark (since Stark had his sleep “disturbed.”
Well I think that Chad is pretty much out for the count. The part where Chad owns Gantenbien then later gets owned by Noitora is a mirror of the SS part where he owns the 3rd seat and then Shunsui owns him back. In this case Chad was using his very last attack with his life essence in it but Telsa somehow negated the attack.
I can certainly see Ishida meeting Halibel since it’s his running gag to keep fighting the females lol!
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 01 07 at 12:33 pmmakes sense. i can agree with that. he’s either fighting a female, or someone super demented. lol
guest added these pithy words on Apr 01 07 at 6:09 pmIshida’s probably going to fight Halibel. Noitora will probably interupt Ulquiorra’s fight with Ichigo. After all, unless Ulquiorra’s the 5th Espada, Ichigo has virtually no chance of survival. Plus, Noitora said he was headed for a powerful opponent. Looking at what we’ve seen of Zaera-Polo and Arroneiro’s zanpakuto’s, Noitora is way too strong to be the 7th Espada. I’d give that spot to the old Espada or Halibel. Also, I think Ishida will win his fight; after all, it wouldn’t make sense of all the main characters lost their battles. Seeing as Ulquiorra’s confronting Ichigo, Noitora’s probably headed in their direction, Zaera-Polo’s fighting Renji, Grimmjow and Yammy are nowhere to be seen, and Arroneiro’s dead, that just leaves the 4 that we haven’t really seen in action. Stark doesn’t seem to care much about the situation, and the only one that appears to be outside is Halibel. Also, I would expect that Yammy and Grimmjow (although very reckless) would be intelligent enough to lay low for awhile. At this point, everyone in Ichigo’s group (those that broke into Hueco Mundo) is strong enough to take out Yammy. Halibel vs. Ishida seems like the next big battle.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 03 07 at 8:46 ami think stark is the type to end up betraying aizen.
i also think that ishda will end up fighting halibel, i dont even think that ichigo will eaven end up fighting ulquiora, as he apears to be a main espada and i dont think they will kill him off so quikley, the most likley thing is ichigo will get ready for his battle onley to bi intorupted by grimjaw.
Stark is the type that would have never had any loyalty to Aizen in the first place. The only reason the Espada follow Aizen is convenience; most of them don’t seem to be unconditionally loyal to him. Arroneiro felt betrayed in the end. Grimmjow and Zaera-Polo clearly work behind Aizen’s back because of their ulterior motives. Noitora is avariciously seeking power and recognition. Stark doesn’t seem to care about much. Not to mention, we don’t know what Ulquiorra’s true motives are. And about the Ichigo/Ulquiorra fight; even if Ulquiorra were to lose, that doesn’t automatically mean he will die. Also, it’s very likely that someone like Noitora or Grimmjow will interupt the battle. For all we know, a few of the Espada may even survive. But unless SS sends its’ forces to Hueco Mundo, there isn’t going to be enough time for all the main characters to fight all the Espada; if Ichigo can’t beat anything more powerful than the 5th Espada, then they’ll need some serious back up. I suspect that Halibel would be smart enough to not rush into a fight though (unless Ishida finds her). My big question about Ulquiorra is this: yes, he may seem very powerful (definately more powerful than Grimmjow), but it would be completely obvious for him to be the 1st Espada. Don’t forget, Ulquiorra did say that Ichigo could at least reach him in power (when Ichigo is at maximum power). I seriously doubt Ichigo is prepared enough to take on the top Espada yet, so unless Ichigo doesn’t end up fighting Ulquiorra, I wouldn’t place him at the top.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 03 07 at 3:55 pmi agree with you 100%. in my opinion, i don’t think ichigo should be more powerful than every espada at his current state. (even if he may lose due to the fact he can’t hold his Vaizard mode long). it creates too much of a power gap like, why the hell did he fight the guys in the beginning to struggle?…”Oh, so if he held the mask a slight bit longer, everyone is finished?”….i can understand mastering the mask, but if this is the case, why would Aizen create such a “weaker” army. it makes no sense. Soul Society would have already broken into Hueco Mundo, and defeat everyone I assume. Aizen cannot be THAT dumb. if Ichigo’s max strength can surpass Ulquiorra when he hasn’t even mastered it yet, (of course when it randomly reaches the peak) there would have to be some stronger espadas, unless Aizen is so careless and confident that he and his 2 main henchmen know they’re stronger….that would be stupid though. right now, where ichigo stands, he hasn’t even mastered Zangetsu yet, and we haven’t seen any other forms of Zangetsu yet either. Ichigo has to master Zangetsu, holding his Vaizard form, and Zangetsu in the Vaizard form. Ichigo cannot be strong enough to defeat all of his opponents yet because he’s still “weak.” this is why i cannot see Ulquiorra being espada number 1. if anything, i could see it being Stark or the dark skinned espada….this is all my opinion though.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 03 07 at 4:31 pmThis Ichigo/Ulquiorra showdown does kinda ruin any rematch with Grimmjow. I agree that Stark and the dark Espada are the most likely candidates for 1st Espada. Now, this may mean nothing, but I was thinking about the way some of them treat each other: Noitora acts somewhat condescending to Ulquiorra and Halibel, but says nothing bad to Stark when told to be quiet. Also, with the inclusion of Noitora, Ulquiorra seems to look down upon some of the other Espada (thinks Grimmjow and Noitora are reckless, think yammy needs to work on his powers of observation, would probably consider Arroneiro and Zaera-Polo foolish for rushing out into fights). Yet, Ulquiorra answered the dark Espada’s question at the meeting (3 intruders, 1 missing) without hesitation.
Now this isn’t finalized, but this is my current list:
1. Dark Espada
2. Stark
3. Noitora
4. Old Espada
5. Ulquiorra
6. Grimmjow Jaggerjack
7. Halibel
8. Zaera-Polo Grantz
9. Arroniero Arleri
10. Yammy
My updated list:
10. Yammy
9. Aaroniero
8. Zael
7. Noitora
6. Grimmjow
5. Halibel
4. Shaft
3. Ulquiorra
2. Grampa
1. Stark
i realized that Guest. i thought about it too. i didn’t really think to much about Ulquiorra’s quick response to the dark espada b4 like that, but he obviously has some respect for him. Stark doesn’t care about anything at all. lol. like u said though, he told Noitora to be quiet, and he said nothing back. Noitora did talk down to Ulquiorra and Halibel though.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 04 07 at 12:16 amWe can’t really say too much about Stark’s motivations because we’ve hardly had much time to see him interact with the others unlike Noitora or Grimmjow. All we know is that he seems incredibly lazy.
How the Espada talk to each other seems rather meaningless since it’s not a formal structure like the Gotei 13. The loud ones like Grimmjow and Noitora make a lot of noise and posturing while the calm ones like Ulquiorra and Stark just ignore them.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 04 07 at 8:15 amthat’s true as well, but the fact that some of the espadas are more sophisticated, focused, and cautious makes a difference with some of the lower levels that have already been introduced. some of the minor details that just appeal to me are some of the things that seem more superior. for instance one example is that i would can honestly say by the looks of the dark espada is that he’s wise, sophisticated, and somewat has a sense of superiorty. he sits with good posture like someone else pointed out, and his design is fine shaped hollow jewelry. lol. this is just something that i look at. he could be #7 for all i kno, but i just observe a lot, so my other reasons i gave b4 plus this create a perfect reason for me to believe that he is in the top 4.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 04 07 at 11:46 amThe sophistication thing is true. The way some of them act (dark Espada, Ulquiorra, Halibel, Stark) would make it seem that they are in the top 5. Stark seems really lazy and tired, but I think we’ll find that he’s alot more powerful than he likes to let on. By actions alone, I would say that Noitora could be 7th Espada, but judging by his sword and strength, he’s almost certainly between 3 and 5. Who knows, maybe he’ll interupt Ichigo’s fight with Ulquiorra and reveal himself as the 5th Espada. Also, although Noitora talked down to Ulquiorra, it doesn’t seem like Ulquiorra thinks much of Noitora either. To gain Ulquiorra’s respect, you’d have to be both intelligent and powerful; Ulquiorra’s respectful demeanor toward the dark Espada makes it seem like he outranks Ulquiorra. I wouldn’t be surprised if Stark outranked Ulquiorra either. Hopefully, the next chapter will give us some foresight into this matter.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 04 07 at 5:19 pmCurrently, I’d save 7th spot for Halibel or the old Espada. I’m still unsure about Ulquiorra; he could easily be the 1st Espada, he’s definately in the top 5, and his mask does resemble that of a Vasto Lordes. Aizen does seem to put a greater amount of trust in him than in most of the others. Plus, he’s clearly the most developed one so far. But the thing that makes me suspect that he’s not the top Espada is the fact that he admitted that Ichigo at full power could reach, or even top his own power. Since Ichigo’s not ready to take on the top yet, he could take on the 5th Espada.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 04 07 at 5:38 pmyeah. that’s the same thing i said earlier about ichigo, and i know that ichigo has a lot to work on. since this is so, other guys out there must be more powerful than ichigo until he masters everything. since this is true, i would assume that Ulquiorra is not espada number one. this is all my guess though becuz anything can be possible.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 05 07 at 1:02 amYeah Noitora tried to disturb Ulquiorra but he just ignored Noitora’s nonsense and gave an overwhelming explanation on Aizen’s mental cage on Orihime. Then Noitora had nothing left to say.
Ulquiorra is definitely a vastrode though. It’s been hinted at least twice already: first when they had the shadow of a vastrode which had the same mask shape as Ulquiorra, and second when Ishida was talking about the 3 types of menos, he mentioned the gillian, adjuchas and vastrode. The accompanying images to those 3 were Edorado(gillian), Yammy (adjuchas) and Ulquiorra (vastrode).
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 05 07 at 2:31 amI agree that Ulquiorra is definately a Vasto Lorde. But looking at the image of the example Adjuchas, which resembled Yammy, it seems to just be an example. I mean, look at Zaera-Polo and Grimmjow (both of which I expect to be Adjuchas); they are alot more powerful and much different in appearance to the example one that looked like Yammy. For all we know, the example Vasto Lorde resembling Ulquiorra is just a low level Vasto Lorde. There could even be a couple more Vasto Lordes in the Espada. Judging from the information given, Ulquiorra could easily be the top one, but someone will have to interupt their fight (most likely Noitora or Grimmjow) if that’s the case.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 05 07 at 7:27 amthat’s true, but we don’t know exactly how many vasto lordes are in the espadas right now either. i say this because vasto lordes are the espadas that have the most humanoid form before they become arrancar. there’s no proof right of how many espadas looked human b4 they became arrancar. that’s why we can’t say too much. for all we know, most of them could be vasto lordes leaving a couple as adjuchas, or most could be adjuchas like most assume. we could all be hit with a shocker, so you never know. right now, a spoiler (supposedly true, but don’t know) claims that Ulquiorra is espada number 3, and Halibel is 5. the only reason why i bring this up is because, if this “spoiler” happens to be true, it would be unexpected to most people even though they guessed something different. that’s all i wanna point out.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 05 07 at 11:38 amI wouldn’t be surprised if Ulquiorra was the 3rd Espada. I’m expecting (and hoping) that the dark Espada and Stark are the top 2. Now, this is all a preliminary guess, but I’d say that there are 3 (5 at the most) Vasto Lordes in the Espada. If I were to assume that this “spoiler” is true, I’d say that 4th and 7th slots are open for Noitora and the old Espada. I could be completely wrong though; the old one could be the top Espada as well. But I’ve noticed that the dark Espada seems observant and highly intelligent; and Stark, even though he acts tired all the time, was also observant enough to realize that Arroneiro died.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 05 07 at 1:27 pmsounds reasonable. it just so tricky to me sometimes cuz i could believe noitora or the old man is 7. but sometimes i think if noitora is 7, how delusional is he to claim that he’s the strongest? it makes better sense if he’s saying this in the top 3, but at the same time, he can be trying very hard to prove himself….it’s crazy. can’t wait to see who number 7 is.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 05 07 at 4:59 pmYeah that’s why I think Noitora is #2 because of how he think he’s the strongest but Aizen doesn’t recognise it as such. He’s clearly more intelligent than Grimmjow or Yammy from the way he thinks and acts, besides his crazed look when encountering Chad.
I’m expected Ulquiorra to be in the top 3 but of course my personal guess is #1. Stark is also in the top 3 for me. Actually for Stark, Ulquiorra and Noitora, any of them could be #1 in my eyes.
The dark Espada could be placed higher but as we know from Zaelapollo, intelligence is not equal to power or ranking. Zaelapollo is probably a very intelligent adjuchas, hence his very human look but low ranking.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 05 07 at 11:06 pmb4 i would’ve thought that Ulquiorra was in the top three, but i have several reasons now of why i don’t currently. through my opinions, i’ll explain the sequence that i’ve overlooked b4 i restate the seating pattern again. in the beginning, it was reasonable to introduce the 10th espada, Yammy. they didn’t wanna tell us Ulquiorra’s ranking. when ever since ichigo entered hueco mundo, the story has been introducing the lower level espadas, or introducing them almost “chronoligically,” but in a specific range. espada 10 was clear. then they introduce Noitora, wat number could he have been? they didn’t tell us, but instead introduced espada #9, Aaroniero. after him espada #8, Zaera-Polo. this left a gap for espada seven. we already new that espada 6 was Grimmjow. judging from Chad not being able to hurt Noitora, he should have faced a lower level espada. it would still make sense for Noitora to be espada number 7 because Kubo obviously did not want to introduce the top 4. it seems strange for Noitora’s claim of being the strongest, but he can be “delusional.” there are those that are stongly thickheaded, and he’s proven to be so. this automatically makes chad outmatched that someone stonger than chad, like ishida would have to face him. Ichigo had already matched with Grimmjow, so there was a new approach, Ulquiorra vs Ichigo. this still keeps the secrecy of the top 4 espadas, even if Aizen has great trust in Ulquiorra. he is not the only one that has proven to be loyal and wise. this gives the perfect chance of making Ulquiorra espada number 5. then boom, the top 4 remain cautious of wat to do because Aaronier has perished. espada five is taking charge, leaving the other four to wait until it is necessary to take charge. i guess that the old man is number 4. hali-bel waits to make a move (i guess she is number 3). the dark skinned espada as number 2 meditates. while espada number 1’s lazy ass goes to sleep. since in my opinion all the espadas five and under have been in combat or are starting to engage in combat, i believe that it has reflected in my earlier guess about the seating arrangement. since i kept rankings in my head in which the espadas were introduced i put 2 and 2 together. these are the rankings
9 10
3 4 ——–Hali-bel and old man
7 8
1 2 ——–Stark and dark skinned espada
5 6
all the other espadas have been introduced longer, and the pattern shows that the top four in this seating arrangement are still barely known in the story leaving all the others “known.”
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 06 07 at 1:24 amWell, you’re pattern could work, but it seems too predictable. Also, what if halibel was 4th, old Espada 3rd, Stark 2nd, and the dark Espada was the top? Still, Noitora’s zanpakuto looks alot more powerful than it should be at 7th Espada level (though it could be to just mislead people into thinking Noitora’s stronger than he really is).
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 06 07 at 7:24 amAccording to wikipedia, Ulquiorra is now listed as the 5th Espada. This is probably incorrect, but I just thought I’d throw that out there in case anyone was interested.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 06 07 at 7:44 amhmmm…..IF the ranking of Ulquiorra become’s correct, so far my prediction is working as follows. that’s true thought, that if my pattern is correct, there is the possibility that instead of old man 4, Hali-bel 3, dark-skinned espada 2, Stark 1, the order CAN be Hali-bel 4, old man 3, Stark 2, dark skinned espada 1. i’m not saying that every single thing they show is according to an order, but according to the way they were introducing the top for in ch. 269, i still keep my prediction of the top 4. Stark was shown last, dark-skinned espada 2nd to last. only old man and Hali-bel seemed to mix up in their introduction. but i’d say the pattern is working pretty good so far at least.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 06 07 at 7:58 amYeah, I’d just make sure not to rely too much on this. The only place it says his supposed rank is right below his picture (when you look under arrancar and click his name). Take it with a grain of salt; if it’s true, cool, but I kinda doubt it. I was just throwing it out in case anyone wanted to know.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 06 07 at 8:10 amI definitely do not trust what Wikipedia says at all since anyone can just go and edit the information there. Your ranking by seating pairs is interesting and we can only confirm/deny it with more information. Besides, there’s too much story invested into Ulquiorra by Kubo for him to be a lowly 5th rank.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 06 07 at 8:34 amWell, I just checked and it was taken down, much as I expected it to be. I didn’t really believe it though, I was simply putting it out there for more discussion. I realize that Ulquiorra is by far the most developed Espada so far, but Ichigo has no chance against him if he’s any stronger than 5th; and 5th Espada is not weak, by and means. I guess all I’m trying to say is that if I created this story, I certainly wouldn’t introduce the top Espada first; I would save the top ones for later.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 06 07 at 8:56 amI suppose that Kubo Tite wanted to make his top Espada someone who was quite involved in the story aka Ulquiorra so that the main hero (Ichigo) has more reason to fight him or be involved somehow with him. It’s pointless to suddenly reveal the top Espada later on when he doesn’t have as much development and becomes just another bad guy to be defeated.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 06 07 at 10:51 ammakes sense. at the same time, they could possibly develop into more of the characters. if Ulquiorra ends up being espada 5, there still is the huuuuge chance that ichigo still can’t win. even though he murked grimmjow with his mask, he didn’t hold it long enough, which means he failed to beat him. we can assume that ichigo can barely beat grimmjow unreleased. released can be a problem. so if Ulquiorra is number 5, that’s another level of strength, plus his released form. they can possibly stop it there with ichigo, and make him lose so he can be rescued or return home and train. because in the SS arc, he never fought Ukitake, Shunsui, or Yamamoto. they probably would’ve spanked him (my guess lol), and maybe the healing female captain (Aizen was impressed that she was able to tell that something was wrong with Aizen’s fake corpse even while she was under complete hypnosis). instead ichigo ended up fighting Byakuya (the one we all assumed to be the top captain). we still don’t know much about all the captains in Soul Society as well, so it can be the same concept in Hueco Mundo with the Espadas.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 06 07 at 12:36 pmThe latest chapter pretty much confirms that Ulquiorra should be in the top 3. Ulquiorra bare-handed blocked all the hits of bankai vizard Ichigo and yet didn’t even have a scratch. He’ll probably bleed a bit next week and start to actually fight seriously but still unreleased.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 06 07 at 10:57 pmthat’d be tight. i saw the much. it was sick. ichigo seems like he may get pwned. wat’s he gonna pull from his sleeve this time. lol
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 07 07 at 12:31 ami saw the match*
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 07 07 at 12:31 amTop 3 makes sense. I personally wouldn’t put him higher than 3rd though. I’d suspect that Stark and possibly the dark Espada (or maybe the old one) are stronger. I could be wrong though. Hopefully next chapter will reveal something about Ulquiorra’s ranking.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 07 07 at 8:57 amHere is my ranking of the espada:
1. Bored guy
2. Ulquiorra
3. Noitora
4. Dark Chick
5. Black guy…
6. Grimmjow
7. Old guy
8. Glasses
9. Aaroniero
10. Yammi
I am 90% sure Ulquiorra is not #1 because that would just be too boring and predictable, but he is probably top 3 because of all the events in the manga (he is either ranked 2 or 3). The bored-looking guy is definitely top 3. Noitora wouldnt be top 3 if he didn’t brag… so I am no sure about him… but he did beat up chad pretty easily…
and the black chick is probably 3/4 too because we need a chick up there in the ranks.. XD (+ she looks pretty cool)
The black guy and the old guy seem to be the weakest of the remaining unrevealed espadas, and I got a feeling chad will be fighting the old guy so… he is #7
Ishida will probably fight the girl… unless Yourochi shows up in Hueco Mundo (which I think is quite possible). If Yorouchi does show up, Ishida will probably end up fighting the black guy.. so putting him as #5 makes sense. Also, if Yorouchi shows up that means Uruhara will too!! Aizen vs Uruhara!! I really hope that will happen!
I also have a feeling the vizards will show up too and shinji will fight noitora.
as for who would fight the bored guy… my first instinct is: No one
The bored guy seems to be a pretty nice guy and lazy too… I feel like he will briefly show us his power and release and eventually give up after a fight with whoever because of his good nature(maybe because of orihime? = this is completely random.. XD)
This guy also reminds me of captain shunsui, which turned out to be one of the strongest in Soul Society but didn’t really show us a fight… Same thing might happen in Hueco Mundo….
Anyways… There still seems to be a lot remaining to this arc so I don’t think it will be ending soon which I am quite happy about
Oh and if the pink haired guy didn’t tell his ranking I would have ranked him higher… so my rankings could be way off…
berkeleyboy added these pithy words on Apr 07 07 at 4:44 pmUpdated Ranking Guess:
1. Dark Espada
2. Stark
3. Ulquiorra
4. Noitora
5. Halibel
6. Grimmjow
7. Old Espada
8. Zaera-Polo
9. Yammy
As much as I’d like any of the Vizards to show up, I doubt they will because if they did get him, Aizen will never let them get out again. He won’t just sit back and watch the show, he’ll probably direct all the Espadas to hunt them down.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 08 07 at 11:39 pmi know that as of now, everyone is predicting that Ichigo will get murked by Ulquiorra. i kind of am too, but i realized that even though Ichigo is a Vaizard, isn’t it possible for him to have a released form? we saw his complete inner hollow when he was training. this means that maybe he can tap into it as a transformation similar to the arrancar. if this is so, he can possibly be way stronger. this is just something i looked at. i’m guessing that probably eventually this can happen, but as for now, i believe that ichigo is just going to get get pwned for the time being. lol and i still think that Ulquiorra can be espada 5.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 09 07 at 1:04 amNah. That’s because becoming a Vizard means to hold your shinigami form with access to hollow powers. The hollow form of Ichigo needs to be arrancarised first before he can have a ‘release’, and even then he won’t be a Vizard or even Ichigo anymore, just another powerful hollow.
I think maybe both the vizards and arrancars are trying to reach the same form - the ultimate perfect shinigami/hollow hybrid.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 09 07 at 1:40 amI was thinking about the aftermath of Arroniero’s death. Does anyone think he’ll be replaced (perhaps with Wonderwice or some other arrancar)? Or do you think Yammy will move up one notch and the Espada will stay at 9 members? Personally, I would find it very tiring if they kept on replacing the dying Espada. Though, that may be the plan; get rid of the weaker ones to make room for the Vasto Lordes. I suspect that a few current Espada will survive. Maybe the whole point of the current arc is to eliminate the weaker Espada, introduce the Vasto Lordes as future Espada members, and prepare for Aizen’s war (which may include rematches with current/future Espada). Thoughts, opinions?
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 09 07 at 9:50 ami am almost 90 precent sure ulquiorra is not number 1 since why would number 1 be equal to or weaker then 100 percent ichigo. personally i think he is just in the range of number 5-3 espada. The chick, old guy, Stark are definity top five. but i’m unsure about noitora and the guy with studs.
guest3 added these pithy words on Apr 09 07 at 12:43 pmThere’s a possibility that Wonderwice might become the #9 Espada since there was no real reason for him to be introduced until now. As for the elimination of weaker Espada, we’ll have to see how the battle between Renji and Zaelapollo goes first.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 09 07 at 12:54 pmAs cool as Ulquiorra is, I don’t think he’s the top Espada. On the other hand, I don’t think he’s 5th or 7th Espada either. 5th would work, but it would be kinda strange for Grimmjow to end up speechless at Ulquiorra’s comment (that he’d take care of Ichigo himself if it came to it) if there was only a 1 number difference. Also, we have to consider just how many Vasto Lordes are currently in the Espada. There’s Ulquiorra, but what about the others? Noitora, strong as he may be, doesn’t seem careful or analytical enough to be a Vasto Lorde. The old Espada also made prior cocky remarks about Ichigo’s group. Take a look at the example Adjuchas and Vasto Lordes; they look almost exactly like Yammy and Ulquiorra. Maybe Yammy and Ulquiorra are just the weakest examples of their respective classes. I would expect Ulquiorra to be much stronger than Grimmjow, but still leave a gap between him and the top Espada: he has to be strong enough to present Ichigo with his toughest battle yet, but weak enough that Ichigo still has a ways to go before reaching the top (present and possibly future) Espada and Aizen once their battle is over. Also, the dark Espada seems highly observant and Stark was able to shut Noitora up. I think those two (ranking wise) are interchangable. Anyways, I’ll reiterate my current Espada ranking:
1. Dark Espada
2. Stark
3. Ulquiorra
4. Noitora
5. Halibel
6. Grimmjow
7. Old Espada
8. Zaera-Polo
9. Yammy
And as far as Wonderwice goes, do we know (for a fact) that he’s stronger than Yammy? Anyways, with the coming of the Vasto Lordes, I wouldn’t be surprised if Yammy and Grimmjow (along with the 7th Espada) are forced out of the Espada ranks. Honestly, I don’t expect Zaera-Polo to survive his fight with Renji. Maybe this would be the end of Yammy; he’d just leave and that would be the end of his story. I suspect Grimmjow would fight back and get himself killed (possibly by Aizen or Tousen). I don’t know about Ulquiorra, Noitora, and Halibel, but if there’s a new arc involving Aizen’s war after this one, I’d expect that at least the dark Espada and Stark would remain in the ranks of the Espada.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 09 07 at 1:17 pmI read all of this, and I noticed no one mentioned that Ichigo is the main character, unless Aizan is going to win the war, Ichigo can’t die. I’ve never heard of someone who is not a main character beat the main bad guy, and Ichigo is the most powerful of the main characters. I never believed that Ulquiorra was he first Espada, but I do think that he is one of the top three. This is my list-
1. Stark
2. Ulquiorra
3. Noitora
4. Black guy
5. Halibel
6. Grimmjow Jaggerjack
7. Old man
8. Zaera POlo Grantz
9. Aaroniero Arleri
10. Yammy
I think the old guy is 7th because of the way he acts.
Me added these pithy words on Apr 09 07 at 7:21 pmGuest: Although you say that Noitora isn’t careful or analytical to be a vastrode, there’s really nothing that says a vastrode has to be intelligent at all. For example Zaelapollo seems fairly intelligent but I’m sure he’s just an adjuchas.
As for Wonderwice, we know nothing about him at all which is what makes his existence a mystery. He doesn’t add anything to the story at all until now where he might be the replacement for #9.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 09 07 at 7:48 pmI wonder about Wonderwice. he seemed to be very powerful due to his actions. obliviously dealing with the enemy, he’s proven to have abilities that we haven’t quite seen yet. Urahara makes him sound skilled.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 10 07 at 9:12 pmi also decided to illustrate my espada rank predictions lol here it is.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 10 07 at 11:51 pmdamn it didn’t show up. lol i must of did it wrong. how do i post up pics? lol
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 10 07 at 11:52 pmI just saw the new Bleach introduction, and the espadas are standing in the same order as they are sitting in the manga picture. i’m sticking with my prediction because it makes sense. lol
MANGA PIC SHOWS FROM AIZEN’S VIEW
9- Aaroniero 10- Yammy
3- Hali-ble 4- Old man
7- Noitora 8- Zaera-Polo
1- Stark 2- dark skinned espada
5- Ulquiorra 6- Grimmjow
ANIME PIC SHOWS FROM BACK OPPOSITE SIDE
10- Yammy 9- Aaroniero
4- Old man 3- Hali-bel
8- Zaera-Polo 7- Noitora
2- dark skinned espada 1- Stark
6- Grimmjow 5- Ulquiorra
Ulquiorra has been confirmed as the 4th Espada. The zigzag theory doesn’t work any longer.
y added these pithy words on Apr 12 07 at 11:53 ami guess it doesn’t, but i must wait for the final conclusions to close it. lol
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 12 07 at 12:36 pmAre the chapter 271 spoilers confirmed as fact yet? If they’re REALLY true, what else happened in the chapter? Any new Espada names or numbers (excluding Ulquiorra)?
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 12 07 at 2:09 pmI’ve checked on Ulquiorra’s ranking, and it is confirmed that Ulquiorra is officially espada number 4. you can actually find the pictures with him revealing it. looks like my theory went down the toilet. lol i COULD create another one, lol, but i think i will keep this one to myself……if i was to just guess off the top of my head….it’s like this now
1 Stark
2 dark espada or Noitora
3 dark espada or Noitora
4 Ulquiorra
5 Hali-bel
6 Grimmjow
7 old espada
8 Zaera-Polo
9 Aaroniero
10 Yammy
Spoiler pictures of the 271 pages have proven it so I guess my theory is shot down as well. And it seems that everyone else who commented here was wrong too.
I guess my updated list now is:
1. Stark
2. Noitora
3. Old Espada
4. Ulquiorra
5. Brooding chick
6. Grimmjow
7. Stone-face dude with skull earrings
8. Zaelapollo
9. Aaroniero
10. Yammy
Yeah, I think you are right, alkanphel.
1st Espada added these pithy words on Apr 13 07 at 2:59 amAlso, I think everyone is underestimating the tall, dark Espada.
guest1313 added these pithy words on Apr 13 07 at 3:03 amYeah. He could also be the 1st Espada.
Aizen-sama added these pithy words on Apr 13 07 at 3:04 amBut somewhere they said it´is comfirmed that the black dude is the 7th Espada.
but,... added these pithy words on Apr 13 07 at 3:07 amHm… Maybe, there could be a Zero Espada. Who knows?
abc added these pithy words on Apr 13 07 at 3:10 amI think the dark dude as 7th Espada was a fake spoiler. Honestly, he seems like one of the top 3. Same goes for Stark. Noitora and the old guy could also be candidates for top 3. I think Halibel could be 5th or 7th. I knew that Ulquiorra wasn’t the top Espada; like I’ve said earlier, it would have been too predictable. I believe the candidates for first should be Stark, the dark Espada, and the Old Espada. To be honest though, I don’t really like the old one, so I hope he’s 7th. He seems somewhat intelligent (not to mention his crown shaped mask…), but he made cocky remarks about Ichigo’s team along with Arroniero and Zaera-Polo (who happened to be 9th and 8th Espada), and look where they are now; Arroniero is dead, and Zaera-Polo may also by the time his fight is over. Right now, my biggest question is where is Noitora ranked. His zanpakuto looked really badass, and he seems to think alot of himself. It’s implied that he’s probably not the 1st Espada, but I’m wondering what his rank is in comparison to Ulquiorra. He talked down to Halibel, making it appear he was higher ranked than her, but when he talked down to Ulquiorra, it seemed like Ulquiorra was just toying with him, provoking him.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 13 07 at 7:54 amThe dark espada is not confirmed to be the 7th espada because, THAT same spoiler said that Ulquiorra was espada number 1. Ulquiorra is already confirmed to be espada number 4. We’ll just have to wait for the dark espada’s rank still.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 13 07 at 11:26 amSo many people underestimate the dark Espada. I would assume from what we know about Ulquiorra’s personality that although he doesn’t think very much of the lower Espada (Noitora?, Grimmjow, and Yammy, though he seems to respect Yammy to a degree), he would respect those higher ranked than himself. This is what leads me to believe that the dark Espada is in the top 3, since Ulquiorra seems to respect him. And Stark just has to be in the top 3, he is just too cool a character to waste for 5th or 7th Espada. I know that’s not a validation for his ranking, but from the way he acts to the way he was able to shut Noitora up at the Espada meeting, I think it’s logical to deduce that he’s one of the top Espada. Honestly, I’m unsure of where Noitora, Halibel, and the Old Espada fit in; all of them could be candidates for 5th or 7th ranking. I hope Noitora actually does something soon; it doesn’t take that long to catch up with Ichigo or Ishida.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 13 07 at 12:07 pmI think it would be pretty ironic if the old Espada was #1 so as to mirror Yamamoto in the Gotei 13 ![]()
ok rankings:
1. Old Man
2. Gloved Guy
3. Halibel
4. Ulquiorra
5. Black Guy
6. Grimjow
7. Noitora
8. Zaelapollo
9. Aaroniero
10. Yammy
THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT GUYS
THE LIST IS REVEALED:
1. Stark
2. Noitora
3. Black Dude
4. Ulquiorra
5. Halibel
6. Grimmjow
7. Old Espada
8. Zaeropollo
9. Aaroniero
10. Yammy
ANSWER REVEALED SEEMS LIKE HE’S GOT A GOOD LIST. HMMMM. I WON’T ONLY BE INDECISIVE ABOUT SWITCHING 2 AND 3, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DO REMEMBER NOITORA MAKING A COMMENT B4 HE SAID HE WAS THE STRONGEST. THIS IS WAT HE SAYS IN THE TRANSLATION THAT I HAVE. “I HAVE NO INTEREST IN WEAKLINGS. THOUGH I DO HAVE INTEREST IN CHIH” THEN HE GETS INTERRUPTED BY TESLA. THIS MEANS HE CAN POSSIBLY 2ND BECAUSE HE IS ONLY WORRIED ABOUT 1 ABOVE HIM BY THE WAY HE TALKS. HE DIDN’T GET TO FINISH SAYING THE NAME, BUT IT’S EITHER THE LAST NAME OF AN ESPADA THAT HASN’T BEEN INTRODUCED, OR A FIRST NAME OF ONE THAT HASN’T BEEN INTRODUCED. IF THAT’S THE CASE, HALI-BEL IS ALREADY OUT, AND MAYBE STARK (THIS MIGHT BE HIS NICK NAME).
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 13 07 at 11:01 pmone more thing. basically (in my opinion, and if this translation is correct), any one who has Chih in the beginning of there first or last name is espada number one in this scenario because it’s Noitora’s only concern. this is my guess.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 13 07 at 11:06 pmEy, the new chapter is out now. Ichigo can’t win because Ulquiorra is too strong. Hopeless.
Aizen-sama added these pithy words on Apr 14 07 at 3:26 amI think Answer Revealed has a very good list; I think I’ll have to agree with it for the moment. As for Noitora, “Chih” doesn’t have to be anyone’s name. I don’t speak any Japanese, but that translation could have simply indicated that he located someone with a high power level. It could have simply been an expression like that, as opposed to someone’s name. Though, I still want Stark to be the top Espada (he’s too cool a character to not be), the dark guy or old guy could also be top Espada.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 14 07 at 7:56 pmActually that “chih” was just an expression, like “pfft”. It wasn’t a name or anything.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 14 07 at 11:39 pmSomeone with an very active imagination on this Chinese forum thinks that Ulqiorra is actually no.1, but he used paint to disguise himself as no.4 as to discourage Ichigo, so that Ichigo doesn’t have to die and Orihime doesn’t have to be sad.
The Ulqiorra x Orihime relationship seems to be getting a LOT of supporters lol.
Lupus added these pithy words on Apr 15 07 at 12:26 amHahaha that’s a pretty active imagination I’d say. But I’m not sure why that means Ichigo doesn’t have to die since the manga shows Ulquiorra impaling Ichigo so I”m pretty sure he wants to kill Ichigo.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 15 07 at 10:56 amdude, i wonder if the Vizards have rankings, or are they just some gang with a leader?
hxecute added these pithy words on Apr 15 07 at 10:59 ammakes sense about the expression. but i at least know that there is enough proof about him being concerned about someone else, so in this scenario maybe he’s 2nd? i would’ve put him lower, but since my zig zag theory died, i’m looking at my old speculations.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 15 07 at 11:28 amhxecute: I doubt the Vizards have any rankings at all. Seems more like a group of friends with a mission to complete.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 15 07 at 7:05 pmRemember in the Espada meeting when Aizen showed off his power, knocking Grimmjow down just with his presence. Now, this is hard to tell with the speech bubbles in the way, but it looked as if Zaera-Polo and the dark Espada were worried (it looked like the dark Espada may have even been sweating). Now, on the other side of the table, although appearing interested in what Aizen had to say, Stark and Noitora didn’t even seem to be phased at all. Ulquiorra seemed alright too, though you don’t see the reactions of the other Espada. Since Ulquiorra is a Vasto Lorde level Espada, I’d imagine that there would be a great gap in power between him and Grimmjow. I would also guess that Ulquiorra is the weakest of the current Vasto Lorde Espada. Here’s an updated guess of the rankings based on this information:
1. Stark
2. Noitora
3. Halibel
4. Ulquiorra
5. Dark Espada
6. Grimmjow
7. Old Espada
8. Zaera-Polo
9. Arroniero
10. Yammy
Man I Cant Believe Ulquiorra is only number 4!
well i guess starks is number 1
and noitora is 2
and so…
i was hoping ulquiorra would be
number 1 lol
wat i had observed at Aizen’s meeting was that it should the reactions of the first 4- old man, Aaroniero, Yammy, and Zaero-Polo. i know that they were sitting near eachother, but the point i’m making is that most of them made arrogant comments….right after that, Aizen says not to underestimate them. then it shows the other four- Ulquiorra, dark skinned espada, Hali-bel, and Noitora. their comments seem like they were taking things more seriously with the exception of Noitora. this could be a sign to show who the more superior espadas were. this gives off the impression that the other 4 are higher than the first 4 shown. Grimmjow was shown right after with his dilemna with Aizen, and we already know where he stands. As for Stark, i get the impression that he’s number 1 for every reason he has, including the small fact that he did not say a word at that part, as if they want to reveal him yet. this is wat makes me believe that old man is in the bottom half, while Hali-bel, Noitora, the dark skinned espada, and Stark are in the top half. due to all the details that u can check in Ch. 244, 245, and 269, i continue to believe that Stark is number 1, and the dark skinned espada is number 2. this leaves the old man as 7, because he continues to make cocky remarks (he can if he’s number 1, but i don’t count on it). Hali-bel would be left with the 5th rank, or 3rd rank. if her silence at the meeting towards Noitora was because she didn’t sweat him, i would place her as 3rd. if she stayed quiet because he was intimidating, then 5th. as for Noitora 3rd rank for him if he’s trying to prove himself without being delusional. (unless he’s so serious that he’d be number 2 while the dark skinned espada is 2) i can also see him 3rd if his disrespect towards Ulquiorra was because he was more superior (unless Ulquiorra knows he’s stronger than Noitora)
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 19 07 at 11:48 am*correction”-”unless he’s so serious that he’d be number 2, while the dark skinned espada is 3″
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 19 07 at 11:50 amI figured that the weaker members of the Espada (five adjuchas and one gillian) would have been intimidated/effected by Aizen’s display of power towards Grimmjow. Due to the fact that the dark Espada and Zaera-Polo appear nervous and negatively effected by Aizen’s power, it would be sufficient to think that they are ranked lower than the Vasto Lordes (Ulquiorra, Stark, Noitora, and Halibel). I could be wrong about Zaera-Polo and the dark Espada’s expressions toward Aizen’s power because of the speech bubbles in the way, but that’s what it looked like to me. Also, Zaera-Polo almost panicked later on when Aizen questioned him about his research. The dark Espada seemed intelligent though, and Ulquiorra seems to respect him to some degree. He doesn’t seem cocky enough for 7th place, so for now I think the dark Espada is 5th, while the old Espada is 7th. Now, for Halibel, it would be likely for the only female Espada to be ranked highly. She doesn’t seem to cut it as top Espada, but I think 3rd is extremely likely. Noitora is cocky and delusional, but lets face it; if Ulquiorra and Halibel were higher than him and he insulted them, they could easily kick his pompous ass. Noitora obviously thinks he’s superior to them by his demeanor, yet Stark was able to shut him up at the Espada meeting. Now going by this logic, I’ll reiterate my current (and probably not last) Espada ranking list:
1. Stark
2. Noitora
3. Halibel
4. Ulquiorra
5. Dark Espada
6. Grimmjow
7. Old Espada
8. Zaera-Polo
9. Aaroneiro
10. Yammy
Also, keep in mind that the Espada could change significantly soon. For all we know, Aizen could gather the Vasto Lordes and kick out the lower echelon (5th-10th) of the Espada. Ulquiorra could become the weakest member of the newly completed Espada. We also have to realize that some of the current Espada (ex. the dark and old ones) may never come into play, as they lose their ranking. Just something to keep in mind, with Aizen’s premonition of a complete, Vasto Lorde level Espada.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 19 07 at 1:46 pmCould this be the true seating of the Espada?
9 - 10
3 - 7
2 - 8
1 - 5
4 - 6
Makes sense; 9th and 10th are at the end of the table, 5th through 8th on Aizen’s right, and 1st through 4th on his left.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 19 07 at 8:12 pmurukiorraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ç_ç i wanted HIM as number oneeeeeee T_T
btw, now i go for:
1-Halibel (i chose her to replace ulquiorra only for… the tits XD)
2-Noitora
3-Stark
4-Ulquiorra (ç_ç)
5-the old guy (chad’s grandfather X-D)
6-Grimmjow (i think there also will be some h-doujinshi with HIM and inoue… >_>)
7-the nigga-one
8-Zaerapolo (go! go for it! beat the crap out of LoseRenji, go!!!)
9-Aaroniero (all about him sucks, his story, his death, his motherfuckin’ shikai…)
10-Yammy
Guest: That seating arrangement seems completely arbitary though. You can easily swap the places of the 1,2,3,5,7 seats and there won’t be any real difference.
I’m pretty much gunning for Stark as #1 and Noitora and #2 now which makes sense on Noitora but the #3 spot might either go to the old one or Halibel.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 20 07 at 4:55 amI figured that my seating arrangement made some sense though. 9th and 10th are at the end of the table, 5th-8th on the right side, and 1st-4th on the left. So far, it works. Plus, it has evens and odds across from each other (not that it means anything). It could easily be arbitrary, but it fits with the numbers I have already mentally assigned the remaining Espada. Look at the right side of the table: you have Grimmjow who, although completely awesome, is also completely reckless; Zaera-Polo, who is also cocky and reckless; and the old Espada, who is cocky (and will possibly be reckless in future encounters). Take a look at chapter 245 though; when Aizen shows off his power, Zaera-Polo and the dark Espada don’t look so well. Obviously, the same goes for Grimmjow. But Stark, Noitora, and Ulquiorra (the left side of the table) seem, for the most part, completely uneffected. I agree alkanphel, I hope Stark and Noitora are numbers 1 and 2, respectively. I’d say that Halibel has a better shot at #3 than the old one does. Plus, the old one seems like the most boring Espada. If he’s actually Chad’s grandfather, and Chad takes him on later (and has a shot at winning), I’d expect him to be 5th or 7th. Anyways, take it with a grain of salt, but this is my prediction for the Espada ranks.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 20 07 at 7:32 ami decided to overlook ch. 245 , but Zaera-poro’s face was covered up too much. lol when i looked at the dark espada, i just noticed his 3 marks above his eye brow. that’s part of his look. he has 3 marks above his eye on both sides, then he has 3 upside down triangles above his chin. other than that, i didn’t notice anything odd about those 2. if you look at the dark espada in every picture, he has those same marks in all of them.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 20 07 at 1:17 pmI tot Grimmjow was already removed from No.6? lol
p0rkch0p added these pithy words on Apr 20 07 at 6:07 pmNo he was reinstated when Orihime regenerated his arm and number and he obliterated Luppi right away.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 22 07 at 8:44 pm272!
Well we now know that ALL Espadas have officers, if they chose to have officers.
It seems that Ulqiorra was protecting Orihime in some way, since as soon as he was gone some other Arrancar tried to kill her. And Ulqiorra didn’t outright kill Ichigo, or at least he doesn’t intend and never intended to kill Ichigo - if he wanted to kill Ichigo he would’ve finished him off instead of leaving him there (although it looks like Ichigo’s about to die anyway).
Lupus added these pithy words on Apr 22 07 at 11:33 pmYeah earlier on we were told that the Espada could command any of the lower arrancars but know there is actually a title (Flaccion) for those arrancars whom the Espada choose to serve them.
I don’t think those 2 arrancar brats were going to kill Orihime though. They were probably roughing her up because she’s suddenly Aizen’s new pet and they resent that.
alkanphel added these pithy words on Apr 23 07 at 1:24 amWonder if Ulquiorra or Yammy have officers? Hah… then again, maybe Ulquiorra chose Yammy. I would imagine if Arroniero had servants, he would have probably already eaten and absorbed them. Now that I think of it, could the five arrancar that accompanied Grimmjow for the first attack (Shawlong, Ilforte, etc.) be his Flaccion? Either way, I’m interested in what Grimmjow’s intentions are in the new chapter, as well as possible revelations of the Espada rankings.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 23 07 at 1:02 pm1-Stark- 2-Old man 3-Black Dude: Because he has three triangels tatooed on his chin and everytime there is a side angle of him there are three dashes above his eye 4-Ulquiorra 5-Halibel 6-Grimmjow 7-Noitora-Envious of Ulquiorra and also wants to prove his strength to badly meaning he must be lower. 8-Polo 9-Aaroniero 10-Yammy
jOE MAMA added these pithy words on Apr 24 07 at 5:28 pmyes i would think so. too bad they didn’t make shawlong an espada. he would’ve been a tight espada.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 24 07 at 5:28 pm0. Wondewice Margera - powerful uncontained experiment
1. Stark - calm, uninterested, most plain human looking (strongest, smartest, sensible)
2. Noitora - Starscream type second in command attitude. wanting to be the strongest but it not.
3. Mohawk Dude - seems to be very strong and intelligent. (Soundwave type)
(Done with the transformers)
4. Ulquiorra
5. Halibel
6. Grimmjow
7. Old Man
8. Zaelapollo
9. Aaroniero
10. Yammy
Or this one could be it too…
1. Halibel
2. Stark
3. Noitorra
4. Ulquiorra
5. Mohawk dude
6. Grimmjow
7. Old Man
8. Zaelapollo
9. Aaroniero
10. Yammy
I think its one of these two.
jacrooked added these pithy words on Apr 24 07 at 5:50 pmWell, so far Stark seems to be ranked higher than Noitora. Also, Noitora seems to be ranked higher than Ulquiorra and Halibel. This would lead me to believe that Stark and Noitora are in the top 3. If not Noitora, at least Stark. Stark, the dark Espada, and the old Espada seem to be the only good candidates for 1st Espada, though I’m really hoping it’s Stark. The fact that they’re the last members to be revealed by name makes me think at least one of them could be in the top 3. I’m still wondering about Grimmjow though; what is he going to do with Orihime? Is he going to use her to help him fight Ichigo, or is betrayal against Aizen his real goal right now. Personally, I’d like him to rebel against Aizen and survive. He would make a good ally in battling the new Espada during the war, albeit with his own different motivations. Not that he should become a good guy or anything, but I’d like him to act more independently from Aizen. A rematch with Ichigo would be a cool way to wrap up this arc; they fight, Grimmjow releases, Ichigo wins and spares Grimmjow, Aizen doesn’t get a chance to kill Grimmjow, Grimmjow vows to get revenge on Aizen/the Espada. I think that after his release, Zaera-Polo will be killed. Yammy will be demoted, but could possibly become Ulquiorra’s servant. Also, I’m curious if the two unrevealed Espada will ever come into play. If they’re the 5th and 7th Espada, they may be knocked entirely out of their ranks altogether. Ulquiorra could become the new 10th Espada (and if not that, one of the weaker members of the new Espada). For now, I feel that Ulquiorra, Stark, Halibel, and Noitora will survive this arc and remain in the Espada. And Noitora’s being lazy; does it seriously take 10 chapters to track someone down?
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 24 07 at 6:43 pmI do agree with:
1) Stark
2) Halibel(has similarities to Soifon and she is cpt of the 2nd division, though in Gotei 13 divisions number does not equal strength,but I’m pretty sure it’s like this)
3) Noitora
The rest is unimportant :P!Or it could be possible to change 2 with 3 but I strongly believe Halibel is 2nd espada.This is the top 3 espada because:
a)Their the only ones that have direct subordonates(it’s a too odd for a mere conicidence)
b)They obiviously look the strongest!
Well, if you really want to rank by similarities to the 13 divisions, you should probably put the old Espada at the top. Seriously though, I really want Stark to be the top Espada. I disagree about your order for 2 and 3; Noitora is probably higher than Halibel simply for the fact that, like with Ulquiorra, he talked down to her. I know Noitora is cocky and delusional, but I would expect a higher ranked Espada to either kick his ass for those comments, or say something that would shut him up (like Stark did at the Espada meeting). Halibel, on the other hand, said nothing. I’d be surprised if Noitora was ranked lower than Ulquiorra. I don’t know just how big the gap in power is between Ulquiorra and Grimmjow, but judging from what we’ve seen of Grimmjow, Zaera-Polo, Arroniero, and Yammy’s zanpakuto’s (not that we’ve seen much of this, but we can get the general shape of their zanpakuto’s), it seems safe to infer that Noitora’s is both larger and more powerful.
Guest added these pithy words on Apr 25 07 at 10:43 amHere is my list that I think is the real ranking, because it really makes sense.
1st Espada- Stark
2nd Espada- Halibel
3rd Espada- Noitora
4th Espada- Ulquiorra Schiffer
5th Espada- Tall Dark Skinned Guy
6th Espada- Grimmjow Jaggerjack
7th Espada- Old Guy
8th Espada- Zaera-Polo Grantz
9th Espada- Aaroniero Arleri(Deceased)
10th Espada- Yammy
My Reasons: First lets start with Stark, he is obviously the strongest because he’s always tired and bored, and if you were of a lower rank you wouldn’t be like that because you would always have to be alert, following orders. Also, he silenced Noitora, who is one of most the disruptive Arrancar there. After Stark comes Halibel, who is very similar to Soifon in many ways, such as the way they both wear they’re sword. Then it just makes sense to make Noitora the 3rd because of how he speaks to everyone else (including Ulquiorra). Skipping Ulquiorra, comes the big dark skinned guy. He seems pretty strong, and seems to have some authority, so he must be the 5th. Finally, skipping Grimmjow, comes the old guy. He seems confident in his ability, and he sort of looks like Captain Komamura of the 7th Division, thus making him the 7th Espada.
Official added these pithy words on Apr 28 07 at 10:46 amyo what chapter you guys talking about
that Starks told Noitora to shut up?
anyone know?!
Well, after taking the pic and writing the numbers over it…i got:
1.Halibel
2.Noitora
3.Stark
4.Ulq.
5.Black Guy
6.Grimmjow
7.Old Guy
8.Zarea-Pollo Grantz
9.The dead one…
10.Yami
no particular reason, just messed around with the picture…wrote in whats been confirmed, it kinda looked like it was going clockwise even…so then i went counterclockwise odd…but then again if you look at it, Ulq is 4, if Stark is 3, then itd be 3-4 next to each other, then we have Noitora and Halibel, 2-1, Yami and the dead guy, 9-10, old guy and the Grantz, 7-8, and Blackguy+Grimm, 5-6….honestly…it might turn out that there is no particular order with the picture at all…wouldnt we feel stupid?
Aeikos added these pithy words on Apr 30 07 at 6:42 pmO- the chapter is 244. when the espadas sit, Stark tells Noitora to be quiet because he is still sleepy. Noitora doesn’t respond. u can tell who is who if u know how each espada dresses.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 30 07 at 10:45 pmoh and in case u can’t tell em apart, when Noitora sits, all u see is his pants at first with a chain, and he yells out loud.
guest2 added these pithy words on Apr 30 07 at 10:59 pmAeikos: The only people who would feel stupid would be the ones who insisted that there was some pattern or order to the seating arrangement that determined the Espada ranks. Personally I don’t believe there is any pattern or order so it doesn’t matter to me ![]()
1. Old Espada
2. Noitora
3. Stark
4. Ulquiorra (#4)
5. Halibel
6. Grimmjow (#6) // Luppi (was Former #6 Espada)
7. Stone-face dude with skull earrings
8. Zaelapollo (#8)
9. Aaroniero (#9)
10. Yammy (#10)
The Arrankar (Espada) in my list with “#” is from the manga oficial rank release….
Psychedelic added these pithy words on May 02 07 at 6:16 amAs far as I’m concerned, Luppi was never a “real” Espada; he was just an expendable tool. Ironically enough, it lo
