Comments on: Here I Come To Save The Day!: 5 anime hero archetypes http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/ THAT blog of various wonders! Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:38:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: THAT Anime Blog v2.0 » Manga First Impression - Blue Dragon Ral Grado by Takeshi Obata http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-4797 THAT Anime Blog v2.0 » Manga First Impression - Blue Dragon Ral Grado by Takeshi Obata Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:49:50 +0000 http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-4797 [...] What about the story? So far it’s hard to judge, but it seems the story is going to center around how Ral and Grado overthrows the Shadow Queen. The two protagonists, Ral and Grado, who constantly talk to each other, provide two different types of hero - Ral, who knows nothing about the world, has infinite room for evolution and growth, while Grado seems to have a deep and interesting background, though how much focus will be given to him remains to be seen. [...] […] What about the story? So far it’s hard to judge, but it seems the story is going to center around how Ral and Grado overthrows the Shadow Queen. The two protagonists, Ral and Grado, who constantly talk to each other, provide two different types of hero - Ral, who knows nothing about the world, has infinite room for evolution and growth, while Grado seems to have a deep and interesting background, though how much focus will be given to him remains to be seen. […]

]]> By: Impz http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3449 Impz Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:26:33 +0000 http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3449 wahahahaha, one article and u already captured the hearts of tj and sasa. Good job, reslez and welcome on board!!! *and my incessant messages on YIM* T_T *lalalala~ wahahahaha, one article and u already captured the hearts of tj and sasa. Good job, reslez and welcome on board!!!

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]]> By: alkanphel http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3447 alkanphel Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:21:41 +0000 http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3447 Well he's definitely not a 'wounded' or 'tragic' anti-hero, that's for sure. Despite what Wikipedia says, DS is the main protagonist of Bastard!! Ruche only appears in the early volumes because of his link to DS and there are certain underlying plotlines related to him, but his appearance time is sorely lacking and he hasn't appeared for a long long time. Now that I think of it, DS is very similar to Alucard from Hellsing, except more 'bastard'. Maybe you can call them the 'bastard' heroes haha :D Well he’s definitely not a ‘wounded’ or ‘tragic’ anti-hero, that’s for sure.

Despite what Wikipedia says, DS is the main protagonist of Bastard!! Ruche only appears in the early volumes because of his link to DS and there are certain underlying plotlines related to him, but his appearance time is sorely lacking and he hasn’t appeared for a long long time.

Now that I think of it, DS is very similar to Alucard from Hellsing, except more ‘bastard’. Maybe you can call them the ‘bastard’ heroes haha :D

]]> By: Reslez http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3429 Reslez Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:01:25 +0000 http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3429 alkanphel - I haven't watched Bastard!! but according to Wikipedia, Dark Schneider "can be incredibly evil, heartless and lecherous". Definitely sounds like anti-hero material to me. Keep in mind the anti-hero designation is normally used for the protagonist/hero only. If Dark Schneider is not the main character (because Rushe is), he may be an antagonist or a shadow ally. Those are specialized terms for various character archtypes I hope to write about soon. tj han - Gantz definitely has a lot going for it in terms of characters. You could argue that (Kuruno) Kei fits the anti-hero mould since his worldview is so cynical and unheroic. It may just be the psychological realism Gantz seems to aim for. According to Gantz, normal people are cowards and anti-heroes. Maybe that's what makes heroes special. Sasa, thanks for the feedback. My examples are limited to the series I've seen, unfortunately, which limits me to a mostly shounen/action universe so far. I'll work on better screenshots in the future. Maybe you could recommend some series for me to watch to help me out :) alkanphel - I haven’t watched Bastard!! but according to Wikipedia, Dark Schneider “can be incredibly evil, heartless and lecherous”. Definitely sounds like anti-hero material to me. Keep in mind the anti-hero designation is normally used for the protagonist/hero only. If Dark Schneider is not the main character (because Rushe is), he may be an antagonist or a shadow ally. Those are specialized terms for various character archtypes I hope to write about soon.

tj han - Gantz definitely has a lot going for it in terms of characters. You could argue that (Kuruno) Kei fits the anti-hero mould since his worldview is so cynical and unheroic. It may just be the psychological realism Gantz seems to aim for. According to Gantz, normal people are cowards and anti-heroes. Maybe that’s what makes heroes special.

Sasa, thanks for the feedback. My examples are limited to the series I’ve seen, unfortunately, which limits me to a mostly shounen/action universe so far. I’ll work on better screenshots in the future. Maybe you could recommend some series for me to watch to help me out :)

]]> By: Sasa http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3423 Sasa Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:48:27 +0000 http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3423 This article reminds me of one of the older tj han comments on shounen manga and why Hunter x Hunter is the best of its genre *hrr hrr* Thumbs up! The only thing I'd 'criticize' is the choice of your examples (and screenshots), but that's personal because I simply don't care for most of these characters and they're not exactly a feast for the eyes *g* PS. Dark Schneider is an anti-hero of course O.o If Raito is, then he must be one too! This article reminds me of one of the older tj han comments on shounen manga and why Hunter x Hunter is the best of its genre *hrr hrr* Thumbs up! The only thing I’d ‘criticize’ is the choice of your examples (and screenshots), but that’s personal because I simply don’t care for most of these characters and they’re not exactly a feast for the eyes *g*

PS. Dark Schneider is an anti-hero of course O.o If Raito is, then he must be one too!

]]> By: Mr. Admin http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3415 Mr. Admin Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:56:58 +0000 http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3415 Hey there, welcome aboard and glad to have you, haha. Hey there, welcome aboard and glad to have you, haha.

]]> By: tj han http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3408 tj han Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:43:33 +0000 http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3408 W00t now this is a pretty interesting read. You mentioned Gantz, which adds points. Gantz has most of the hero types you mentioned above, which is why its one of the best male-oriented series. With Katou, the social catalytic unwilling hero, Nishi the anti-hero and Izumi's willing lone wolf in addition to the horny Kei. W00t now this is a pretty interesting read. You mentioned Gantz, which adds points. Gantz has most of the hero types you mentioned above, which is why its one of the best male-oriented series. With Katou, the social catalytic unwilling hero, Nishi the anti-hero and Izumi’s willing lone wolf in addition to the horny Kei.

]]> By: alkanphel http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3405 alkanphel Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:44:57 +0000 http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3405 Welcome to THAT blog Reslez! That's a great post there, it was well thought out and written nicely as well. You even included further reading! I wonder if Dark Schneider from Bastard!! is counted as a hero or anti-hero...hmmm Welcome to THAT blog Reslez!

That’s a great post there, it was well thought out and written nicely as well. You even included further reading!

I wonder if Dark Schneider from Bastard!! is counted as a hero or anti-hero…hmmm

]]> By: Reslez http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3404 Reslez Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:29:22 +0000 http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3404 Lupus - As negativzero commented, Kenshin starts out very much a loner, gains friends as the story progresses, and then decides to stick with them rather than wander off again. This is pretty much the core of a loner hero. I think Kenshin is more polite than most loner heroes, though! LOL, I think that's part of what makes him interesting. negativzero - You have a good point about the timeline of most hero stories. That's the hero's journey that George Lucas cribbed from John Campbell's work when he wrote Star Wars, and which Vogler spelled out for screenwriters in his own books. I'll probably post about the hero's journey in the future, cause it's pretty interesting. P.S. There's no way you could know this but I'm a girl ;) I'll add myself to the "About the members" page with some more info about myself... Thanks for your kind comments, I find story structure and character archetypes very interesting and use them in my own writing. You can definitely see how universal these themes are when they show up everywhere from Star Wars to random anime series. Lupus - As negativzero commented, Kenshin starts out very much a loner, gains friends as the story progresses, and then decides to stick with them rather than wander off again. This is pretty much the core of a loner hero. I think Kenshin is more polite than most loner heroes, though! LOL, I think that’s part of what makes him interesting.

negativzero - You have a good point about the timeline of most hero stories. That’s the hero’s journey that George Lucas cribbed from John Campbell’s work when he wrote Star Wars, and which Vogler spelled out for screenwriters in his own books. I’ll probably post about the hero’s journey in the future, cause it’s pretty interesting. P.S. There’s no way you could know this but I’m a girl ;) I’ll add myself to the “About the members” page with some more info about myself…

Thanks for your kind comments, I find story structure and character archetypes very interesting and use them in my own writing. You can definitely see how universal these themes are when they show up everywhere from Star Wars to random anime series.

]]> By: negativzero http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3397 negativzero Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:50:03 +0000 http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3397 lol, interesting article... ^___^ there are actually a few ways one can classify a hero, be it in an anime, drama, etc... lol, lupie, at least he isn't like the guy impzy hired but never wrote a single article :D anyways, i do believe kenshin is a loner hero, until the end. if you followed through the manga, you would have found out that he never told anyone at all about his past till enishi himself showed up. and of course, everyone knows enishi IS more sadistic of a villian than shishio was. my stereotype would go something like this, in order of timeline 1. hero starts off weak, and loser-like 2. hero encounters life-changing event 3. hero loses for a while and turns emo.. 4. hero breaks out of curse and comes and saves the day 5. the end XDDD lol, interesting article… ^___^
there are actually a few ways one can classify a hero, be it in an anime, drama, etc…

lol, lupie, at least he isn’t like the guy impzy hired but never wrote a single article :D

anyways, i do believe kenshin is a loner hero, until the end. if you followed through the manga, you would have found out that he never told anyone at all about his past till enishi himself showed up. and of course, everyone knows enishi IS more sadistic of a villian than shishio was.

my stereotype would go something like this, in order of timeline

1. hero starts off weak, and loser-like
2. hero encounters life-changing event
3. hero loses for a while and turns emo..
4. hero breaks out of curse and comes and saves the day
5. the end XDDD

]]> By: Lupus http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3387 Lupus Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:39:35 +0000 http://that.animeblogger.net/2006/11/13/here-i-come-to-save-the-day-5-anime-hero-archetypes/#comment-3387 Wow. Great article. Impzie actually recruited someone who can write! Awesome! Shame the last guy he recruited sucks :P Edward (I always think Ed-o-wa-do in my head... hard to wrap my mind around Edward) does change undergo some changes throughout the series. Also, Kenshin is hardly a loner hero. He has tons of friends fight along-side him throught-out the series. Wow. Great article. Impzie actually recruited someone who can write! Awesome! Shame the last guy he recruited sucks :P

Edward (I always think Ed-o-wa-do in my head… hard to wrap my mind around Edward) does change undergo some changes throughout the series.

Also, Kenshin is hardly a loner hero. He has tons of friends fight along-side him throught-out the series.

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